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    TECHNOLOGY

    Are drivers ready for this Bump?


    By Benny Evangelista


    CHRONICLE STAFF WRITER

    At one time or another, all motorists have wanted to send a message to another driver, usually with a middle finger extended after avoiding a collision.

    Or, in another scenario, what if “the love of your life winked at you at a stoplight,” said Mitch Thrower, chief executive and founder of Bump Network Inc.

    Thrower’s startup is hoping drivers will want to join the new mobile social network, which is tied to car license plate numbers, so they can send those driver-to-driver messages.

    But there’s another incentive. Bump Network hopes it can entice people to sign up by offering a way for advertisers to send specialized messages to customers when the technology reads their license plate number. So stores, for

    example, could send electronic coupons to a customer’s smart phones as they park in the shopping mall lot, or fast-food restaurants could text drivers to try a new chicken sandwich while they wait in the drive-through lane.

    “What Groupon did for coupons, Bump.com is going to do for real time, real world unique identifier messaging and marketing,” Thrower said at a tech conference this week in Santa Clara.

    Social networking


    The La Jolla (San Diego County) startup was one of several companies with a social media component that made their official launches at Demo Fall 2010, a semi annual conference designed to spotlight emerging technologies for potential investors.

    The conference, which took place in the Santa Clara Convention Center, has in the past proven to be the launching pad for such game-changing companies as Palm Computing, Netscape, TiVo and E-Trade.

    To be sure, there’s no guarantee Bump Network won’t end up being roadkill, but the company’s business model is driving in the same direction as a slew of emerging social “check-in” technologies such as Foursquare, Gowalla and Shopkick. And recently, social networking giant Facebook introduced a feature called Places that is expected to bring geolocation into the mainstream.

    To join the Bump Network, drivers sign up and “claim” ownership of their license plate in the company’s database.

    The license plate then becomes a real-world version of a Web hyperlink, Thrower said.

    Bump members can then send voice, text or e-mail messages to other participating drivers if they want to compliment them on their choice of vehicle, tell them they have a flat tire or question where they learned how to drive. To address the potential problems of becoming a stalker magnet or of falling victim to other privacy issues, Bump members can choose to publicly share as much or as little information about themselves.

    Why would someone join? The potential incentives are the other part of Bump’s business plan.

    The company’s software, when tied into a video surveillance network or a mobile camera, can read and store five license plate numbers per second even at speeds of up to 150 mph.

    So a business owner can scan the plates of cars parked in a shopping mall or stadium parking lot and push real-time messages of special deals or promotions, tailored to their needs depending on the information Bump members chose to share.

    “As a business owner, anyone parking in your lot, you can now message them, connect with them in a very meaningful way,’’ said Thrower, who co-founded the Active Network, an online events registration firm that had $244 million in revenue last year.

    Likely partnerships


    Bump officials say they are about to announce some major partnership deals, but declined to give details.

    Among the other companies that made presentations during Demo’s “social and media technologies” sessions:

    homingCloud, a do-it-yourself real estate social network with the motto “happier, not broker.’’

    The Chappaqua, N.Y., startup wants to “get rid of real estate brokers,” Chief Executive Officer Tina Fine told the Demo crowd.

    Home sellers and apartment managers can post their available properties. Buyers can check out the inventory, find matches for what they are looking for and see suggestions from the homingCloud community.

    Needly, an e-commerce site that is a blend of eBay, Craigslist and Priceline.

    The Santa Monica company hopes to capture a market of people who have things to sell online, but find eBay or Craigslist too daunting, said Chief Executive Officer Fred Krueger.

    Needly takes care of the transactions though its own payment system, and members can follow each other like on a social network. People can also set up their own private inventory to catalog their personal collections that are not for sale.

    Weliket, a social shopping service from Select2gether Inc. of San Francisco.

    Weliket (pronounced “we-like-it) lets users shop for products using any website and instantly seek “honest feedback from people you trust” through social networks, said founder and CEO Jeany Stein.

    Touchring, which lets users make Web telephone calls, or send text or video, to social networking contacts or blogs.

    “It allows you to actually call your social contacts without needing their numbers,” said John Kwag, who represented Touchring Co. Ltd. of Seoul. “We’re making your social graph a social phone book.”

    Another company, C2Call of Sunnyvale, also was at Demo to promote a similar service called FriendCaller, which can make phone calls over the Internet through e-mails, social networks and mobile devices like the iPod Touch or iPad.

    “What Groupon did for coupons, Bump.com is going to do for real time, real world unique identifier messaging and marketing.”

    E-mail Benny Evangelista at bevangelista@sfchronicle.com.

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    Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

    I made a sign to keep in the car.

    It simply says, "You're an Asshole" in big bold lettering.

    If you tailgate behind me or block the left lane on I-95 during rush hour, you might just see the sign...

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      Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

      At the peak of car-mania in the rust-belt, cars were made to look like airplanes. The so-called, "innovations" were things like: push-button shift command, push-button radios, speedometres that stretched from the left door all the way across the front of the passenger compartment almost to the passenger's door, fancy hood-ornaments that looked like jet planes, tail-fins that looked like wings of a jet, white-wall tires, chromed bumpers, concealed gas tank doors, giant tail-lights, multiple head-lamps, giant steering wheels, column-shift, push-button windows, gold-plated car keys, moon hub-caps, push-in cigarette lighters, power-brakes, fender skirts, etc.... This is the stage that tech-mania apparently is in now in Silicon Valley. They are selling; not listening, not co-operating, not thinking, not communicating, not innovating, not helping the customer, not building products that might last for decades....... They are salesmen--- in the most negative sense of the word. It reminds me of Detroit during car-mania. In other words: find a gimmick, and sell it; screw the customer, and expect him to come-back for more. Thus it was said, "If it wasn't such a great car, why would they buy so many?"

      I wonder what the future of Silicon Valley is going to be? Tech stocks have been a joke for years, and now tech products seem like a joke, except that they sell. Apple makes nothing but money.... But what about the future?

      English-only was never in San Jose, but now it is. Something has changed. San Jose was always bi-lingual or multi-lingual and multi-cultural, but no more. Also, the Valley is arrogant and rich---- and maybe out-of-touch. Where are the new people? Where are the new ideas? Where are the important innovations? Where are the improvements to the standard-of-living for the world? Instead of just games, where are the game-changers in technology?

      The lawyers are coming to San Jose, but who else is moving there?

      Yes, they still drink lattes on University Avenue in Palo Alto, but aside for toy-phones for the latte-drinkers, what is new in Silicon Valley?
      Last edited by Starving Steve; September 18, 2010, 02:22 PM.

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        Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
        At the peak of car-mania in the rust-belt, cars were made to look like airplanes. The so-called, innovations were things like: push-button shift command, push-button radios, speedometres that stretched from the left door all the way across the front of the passenger compartment almost to the passenger's door, fancy hood-ornaments that looked like jet planes, tail-fins that looked like wings of a jet, white-wall tires, chromed bumpers, concealed gas tank doors, giant tail-lights, multiple head-lamps, giant steering wheels, column-shift, push-button windows, gold-plated car keys, moon hub-caps, push-in cigarette lighters, power-brakes, etc.... This is the stage that tech-mania apparently is in now in Silicon Valley. They are selling; not listening, not co-operating, not thinking, not communicating, not innovating, not helping the customer, not building products that might last for decades....... They are salesmen--- in the most negative sense of the word. It reminds me of Detroit in car-mania. In other words: find a gimmick, and sell it; screw the customer, and expect him to come-back for more. Thus it was said, "If it wasn't such a great car, why would I buy so many?"

        I wonder what the future of Silicon Valley is going to be? Tech stocks have been a joke for years, and now tech products seem like a joke, except that they sell. Apple makes nothing but money.... But what about the future?

        English-only was never in San Jose, but now it is. Something has changed. The Valley is arrogant and rich---- and maybe out-of-touch. Where are the people? Where are the ideas? Where are the important innovations? Where are the improvements to the standard-of-living for the world?

        The lawyers are coming to San Jose, but who else is moving there?
        Steve, your comments reminded me of the more up todate SUV design. Top heavy, over-built on a light truck chassis, subject to rollovers that nevertheless played to the owners' insecurities to the max. Riding high, above the fray, secure in the all-plastic aggressive animal look. Sheeple in cougar's clothing.

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          Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

          Seems like there could be some synergy here with other aspects of the ongoing slide into fascism:

          Maryland to store license plate scanner data at intel fusion center
          http://www.centerforinvestigativerep...elfusioncenter

          Here's a link to PlateScan, one of the companies developing the ALPR technology (check out their videos):
          http://www.platescan.com/default.asp

          So, let's see:
          -- you get tracked wherever you go, and a history of your movement is maintained
          -- you can be pulled over and issued a ticket or be arrested based on your license plate alone

          But:
          -- anonymous people who see your car on the road can send you "friendly" messages
          -- stores and other commercial facilities can send you "offers" after they've seen your license plate (and they will also no doubt keep a history of your visit)

          Yay! We're threatened by increasingly intrusive law enforcement, while also getting spammed left-and-right! Woo-hoo!?

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          • #6
            Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

            This service is cute, but is totally "dark side" friendly.

            Just imagine someone in your local traffic enforcement division checking your time stamp at x1,y1 coordinate, then the time stamp at x2,y2 coordinate.

            If (T2-T1)/delta x1,y1 & x2,y2 > 65 mph, you get a ticket in the mail.

            The modern equivalent of radiologists scanning x-rays in the files for more consulting fees...

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              Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

              Originally posted by c1ue View Post
              This service is cute, but is totally "dark side" friendly.
              Oh, yes! Many variations on a theme are possible:

              -- Anyone owning a car that was present within a certain radius of a crime can become a suspect
              -- "Terrorist" suspects and other criminals or would-be criminals can be identified by the places they visit, including homes of other suspects, certain stores, defense facilities, etc.
              -- Personal associations can be implied because your car was in the proximity of some other car a certain number of times (probability be damned!)
              -- "Real" criminals can steal plates (even for just a few hours), and provide themselves with a "concrete" alibi
              -- A whole new market in fake plates and plate-altering technology will be created
              -- It will be up to the real owner to prove that they weren't somewhere they were "observed" (assumed innocent? what's that?)
              -- Imagine the possibilities with regard to commercial intelligence: the car belonging to an executive of company X was observed at company Y, etc.

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                Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                Originally posted by Sharky View Post
                Seems like there could be some synergy here with other aspects of the ongoing slide into fascism:

                So, let's see:
                -- you get tracked wherever you go, and a history of your movement is maintained
                -- you can be pulled over and issued a ticket or be arrested based on your license plate alone

                But:
                -- anonymous people who see your car on the road can send you "friendly" messages
                -- stores and other commercial facilities can send you "offers" after they've seen your license plate (and they will also no doubt keep a history of your visit)

                Yay! We're threatened by increasingly intrusive law enforcement, while also getting spammed left-and-right! Woo-hoo!?

                Orwell, for all his prescience, missed the exuberant willingness of sheeple to participate as consumers, missing entirely the commercial potential of totalitarian control. Of course George was European, less privy by nature to Yankee Ingenuity.(Think of Colonialism vs Neo-Colonialism. Brilliant stuff...)



                Old School




                New School


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                • #9
                  Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated






                  It's getting better all the time...
                  (the Beatles)

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                    Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                    This service is cute, but is totally "dark side" friendly.

                    Just imagine someone in your local traffic enforcement division checking your time stamp at x1,y1 coordinate, then the time stamp at x2,y2 coordinate.

                    If (T2-T1)/delta x1,y1 & x2,y2 > 65 mph, you get a ticket in the mail.

                    The modern equivalent of radiologists scanning x-rays in the files for more consulting fees...
                    They could have done this with toll booth stamps for years and now it is a piece of cake with EasyPass.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                      I ride a bike to work, weather and schedule permitting.
                      Don't own a cell phone and don't participate in social networking.
                      Dog doesn't have an implanted chip - her collar has a name and address tag.
                      Rarely watch TV - too many good books in my library waiting to be read.
                      For me, less electronic distraction is better.

                      My biggest fear is getting rear-ended by a texting driver.
                      Someone needs to invent an app that detects a texting driver, which then shuts down the phone indefinitely.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                        Originally posted by Jay
                        They could have done this with toll booth stamps for years and now it is a piece of cake with EasyPass.
                        It is worse than that. All of the 'drive through' toll paying technologies utilize RFID.

                        Anyone, and I mean anyone, with the electronic handshake can therefore identify your vehicle.

                        How hard would it be to place RFID sensors at street intersections to literally monitor the identity of every car driving through?

                        To similarly use the same RFID technology to link to a parking meter and automatically extract payment and or issue parking tickets?

                        For that matter, SF as we speak is emplacing RFID sensors on each parking spot. The city can now monitor the literal parking status of every single one of these RFID's spots - and the next logical step is to link with the meter and to vector enforcement accordingly.

                        All gravy to my new business...

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                          Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                          It is worse than that. All of the 'drive through' toll paying technologies utilize RFID.

                          Anyone, and I mean anyone, with the electronic handshake can therefore identify your vehicle.

                          How hard would it be to place RFID sensors at street intersections to literally monitor the identity of every car driving through?

                          To similarly use the same RFID technology to link to a parking meter and automatically extract payment and or issue parking tickets?

                          For that matter, SF as we speak is emplacing RFID sensors on each parking spot. The city can now monitor the literal parking status of every single one of these RFID's spots - and the next logical step is to link with the meter and to vector enforcement accordingly.

                          All gravy to my new business...
                          It's worse than that! A very substantial amount of automobiles nowadays have a bluetooth carkit installed and/or people driving with a phone that has its bluetooth radio enabled. If you can get a lock on the bluetooth signal just long enough to read the unique identifier of the bluetooth radio, you can identify the car (and use it to track its route if you read at multiple points and store its time/location in a central database).

                          I ran into this because exactly such a system is being tested right now in the country I'm living in. Though I'm not sure what the advantage is compared to license-plate recognition on video feeds by cameras placed over motorways. Maybe it's cheaper? One device/antenna would probably cover all passing lanes where you would need multiple cameras to cover both directions and all lanes.
                          engineer with little (or even no) economic insight

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                            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                            All gravy to my new business...
                            As a friend of mine says " I hate it! But I will go along with it. If I don't, someone else will -- so it might as well as me that makes the money." In other words a distinct lack of "??????"

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                              Re: Descent into Hell continues...unabated

                              Originally posted by Rajiv
                              As a friend of mine says " I hate it! But I will go along with it. If I don't, someone else will -- so it might as well as me that makes the money." In other words a distinct lack of "??????"
                              Hardly - the difference between what I'm working on and what is going on above is that my stuff is totally NOT dark side.

                              I looked into that realm at the beginning as part of normal due diligence, but frankly there is no reason to do so as I already have a business model and monetization path involving only my customers (the public). The November launch date looks pretty good, I may be able to talk about it more then.

                              In fact, I am seriously contemplating offshore hosting specifically to be exempt from demands by the various local/state/city governments. The data available for collection as well as the database the service is operating off of are both proprietary and I don't want to have to worry about subpoenas or any other bureaucratic crap.

                              The social networking services, on the other hand, have no business model and no monetization path other than being acquired - thus are prime candidates for 'dark side' partnerships.

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