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    The Slump Goes On: Why?
    September 30, 2010
    Paul Krugman and Robin Wells

    Fault Lines: How Hidden Fractures Still Threaten the World Economy
    by Raghuram G. Rajan
    Princeton University Press, 260 pp., $26.95

    Crisis Economics: A Crash Course in the Future of Finance
    by Nouriel Roubini and Stephen Mihm
    Penguin, 353 pp., $27.95

    The Holy Grail of Macroeconomics: Lessons from Japan’s Great Recession
    by Richard C. Koo
    Wiley, 296 pp., $45.00

    In the winter of 2008–2009, the world economy was on the brink. Stock markets plunged, credit markets froze, and banks failed in a mass contagion that spread from the US to Europe and threatened to engulf the rest of the world. During the darkest days of crisis, the United States was losing 700,000 jobs a month, and world trade was shrinking faster than it did during the first year of the Great Depression.

    By the summer of 2009, however, as the world economy stabilized, it became clear that there would not be a full replay of the Great Depression. Since around June 2009 many indicators have been pointing up: GDP has been rising in all major economies, world industrial production has been rising, and US corporate profits have recovered to pre-crisis levels.

    Yet unemployment has hardly fallen in either the United States or Europe—which means that the plight of the unemployed, especially in America with its minimal safety net, has grown steadily worse as benefits run out and savings are exhausted. And little relief is in sight: unemployment is still rising in the hardest-hit European economies, US economic growth is clearly slowing, and many economic forecasters expect America’s unemployment rate to remain high or even to rise over the course of the next year.

    Given this bleak prospect, shouldn’t we expect urgency on the part of policymakers and economists, a scramble to put forward plans for promoting growth and restoring jobs? Apparently not: a casual survey of recent books and articles shows nothing of the kind. Books on the Great Recession are still pouring off the presses—but for the most part they are backward-looking, asking how we got into this mess rather than telling us how to get out. To be fair, many recent books do offer prescriptions about how to avoid the next bubble; but they don’t offer much guidance on the most pressing problem at hand, which is how to deal with the continuing consequences of the last one.

    blah, blah, blah...

    9000 more words.
    hmmmmm. a book with solutions. hmmmmm. where might such a book be???

    from amazon...

    "Eric Janszen has written a powerful and important book about how we can build an American economy in which 'finance once again serves the productive economy instead of rules it.' He describes the job-creating industries of the next ten years and what we have to do to make them thrive."
    -Former U.S. Senator Bill Bradley

    "An outstanding read. Eric Janszen's prescription for a more fundamentally sound energy policy is especially perceptive. Janszen's book addresses not only what needs to be done, but the proper roles of government and private interests in securing the real transformative change our economy needs."
    -Joe Petrowski, CEO, Gulf Oil

    "We need to know where we will be when we get out of this mess, and the Fed's combination of nostalgia, raw hope, and guesswork does not give much guidance. Eric Janszen, seeking scope and depth, contributes significantly to the next, necessary debate."
    -Martin Mayer, Brookings Institute Guest Scholar and author of The Fed and the Markets

    "Eric has written a book suggesting how we can avoid the worst consequences of our folly as Americans struggle to pay down debt in a damaged economy. If we follow his advice, we may find alternative energy resources and increase productivity in time to become self-sustaining before the United States creates a new financial crisis that will make the current one look like a business boom."
    -Janet Tavakoli, president, Tavakoli Structured Finance, and author of Dear Mr. Buffett

    "Eric Janszen reinforces the need to look for entrepreneurs to create new companies and new jobs, not to simply expect government economic policy to do so, and this is an all too rare perspective. Refreshing and cogent."
    -Bart Stuck, Managing Director of Signal Lake Venture Partners

    "Unlike the many 'told you so' books of the past year, Eric Janszen takes a hard look at the foundations of the Great Recession of 2009, explaining why gold prices rose, why the U.S. dollar is safer than we think, and why houses make terrible investments. And rather than suggesting another round of post-hoc regulation, Janszen points the way towards a sustainable future in infrastructure investment. Janszen has the goods."
    -Scott Reynolds Nelson, Legum Professor of History, College of William & Mary, author of Crash: An Uncommon History of America's Financial Disasters

    "Eric Janszen gives us an eloquent and straightforward analysis of the serious challenges that face the United States today, and a prescription for how America can return to a position of greatness from an author who is optimistic and confident of the resilience and entrepreneurial spirit of the American people."
    -Jim Goldinger, founder, Fairhaven Capital Partners
    nope... no solutions here.
    Last edited by metalman; September 16, 2010, 09:23 PM.

  • #2
    Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

    Starving Steve's solutions to the Great Recession:

    Fire Bernanke and the other econ-frauds. Fire the economics professors in public universities. Hike the discount rate at the Fed to 6% over the rate of inflation in the CPI, in order to make-up for lost time and lost confidence. Raise the value of the dollar to bring-in foreign investment. Tie the dollar to gold. Take an axe to government spending: chop the Agriculture Dept; chop the Education Dept; chop the Environmental Protection Agency; slash defence spending; chop the Federal Housing Administration; chop the Federal Reserve Bank System; end the TARP; end all TBTF and bail-outs and stimulus. Hike taxes on everything. Start a federal sales tax on all consumption except for food. Chop the civil service to the bone. Roll-back federal wages to 1970 levels. Minimum 50% down-payment to buy a house. Chop the Energy Department, and get rid of Dr. Chu who runs it. Flood cities with cheap serviced land. Flood the electric grid with cheap atomic and hydro-electric power. Substitute natural gas for oil wherever possible, and drill everywhere for oil. Socialize medicine, and get rid of all for-profit, private health insurance companies and hospitals.

    Let's begin now! No-one is going to get tax-breaks on anything, and we all are going to tighten our belts and suck our stomachs in. We all dig-out of the Great Recession through shared-suffering and socialism.

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    • #3
      Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

      Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
      Starving Steve's solutions to the Great Recession:

      Fire Bernanke and the other econ-frauds. Fire the economics professors in public universities. Hike the discount rate at the Fed to 6% over the rate of inflation in the CPI, in order to make-up for lost time and lost confidence. Raise the value of the dollar to bring-in foreign investment. Tie the dollar to gold. Take an axe to government spending: chop the Agriculture Dept; chop the Education Dept; chop the Environmental Protection Agency; slash defence spending; chop the Federal Housing Administration; chop the Federal Reserve Bank System; end the TARP; end all TBTF and bail-outs and stimulus. Hike taxes on everything. Start a federal sales tax on all consumption except for food. Chop the civil service to the bone. Roll-back federal wages to 1970 levels. Minimum 50% down-payment to buy a house. Chop the Energy Department, and get rid of Dr. Chu who runs it. Flood cities with cheap serviced land. Flood the electric grid with cheap atomic and hydro-electric power. Substitute natural gas for oil wherever possible, and drill everywhere for oil. Socialize medicine, and get rid of all for-profit, private health insurance companies and hospitals.

      Let's begin now! No-one is going to get tax-breaks on anything, and we all are going to tighten our belts and suck our stomachs in. We all dig-out of the Great Recession through shared-suffering and socialism.
      I could live with this! A few of my favorite oxen get gored, but the package as a whole seems equitable. Starving Steve for president!

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      • #4
        Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
        Starving Steve's solutions to the Great Recession:

        Fire Bernanke and the other econ-frauds. Fire the economics professors in public universities. Hike the discount rate at the Fed to 6% over the rate of inflation in the CPI, in order to make-up for lost time and lost confidence. Raise the value of the dollar to bring-in foreign investment. Tie the dollar to gold. Take an axe to government spending: chop the Agriculture Dept; chop the Education Dept; chop the Environmental Protection Agency; slash defence spending; chop the Federal Housing Administration; chop the Federal Reserve Bank System; end the TARP; end all TBTF and bail-outs and stimulus. Hike taxes on everything. Start a federal sales tax on all consumption except for food. Chop the civil service to the bone. Roll-back federal wages to 1970 levels. Minimum 50% down-payment to buy a house. Chop the Energy Department, and get rid of Dr. Chu who runs it. Flood cities with cheap serviced land. Flood the electric grid with cheap atomic and hydro-electric power. Substitute natural gas for oil wherever possible, and drill everywhere for oil. Socialize medicine, and get rid of all for-profit, private health insurance companies and hospitals.

        Let's begin now! No-one is going to get tax-breaks on anything, and we all are going to tighten our belts and suck our stomachs in. We all dig-out of the Great Recession through shared-suffering and socialism.


        er, bring 'it' on... the 2nd great depression...

        ever ask why they called it the 'great' depression?

        worked out great last time...

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        • #5
          Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

          Well, Steve, it's a bold plan, I give you that.

          And it would be more likely to improve things than anything you'll ever see come out of the Monkey House currently running this horror show. The problem is this: under what political system could this possibly take place? The supreme flaw in a representative democracy, of course, is that everyone gets to vote. And most people are idiots. I could subscribe to the idea often offered here that there has been brainwashing on a massive scale (am I misquoting Reggie?), so that most citizens are more dupes than idiots, but I prefer to ascribe to ignorance, rather than malice, that which can be ascribed to ignorance.

          What do you suppose it would take, other than a more powerful central government (and one committed to legislating itself out of power at that) could be expected to pull off such a coup? Is it even imaginable give the current constraints (you'll have to fill them in for yourself, as I offer none here)?
          "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much it is whether we provide enough for those who have little." - Franklin D. Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

            Originally posted by Jeff View Post
            Well, Steve, it's a bold plan, I give you that.

            And it would be more likely to improve things than anything you'll ever see come out of the Monkey House currently running this horror show. The problem is this: under what political system could this possibly take place? The supreme flaw in a representative democracy, of course, is that everyone gets to vote. And most people are idiots. I could subscribe to the idea often offered here that there has been brainwashing on a massive scale (am I misquoting Reggie?), so that most citizens are more dupes than idiots, but I prefer to ascribe to ignorance, rather than malice, that which can be ascribed to ignorance.

            What do you suppose it would take, other than a more powerful central government (and one committed to legislating itself out of power at that) could be expected to pull off such a coup? Is it even imaginable give the current constraints (you'll have to fill them in for yourself, as I offer none here)?
            Sadly, if only we would follow our Constitution (people seem to forget that we are a Republic - NOT a democracy) then much of the "coup" you and Steve speak of would take place naturally and immediately. I will continue to keep my fingers crossed.

            Starving Steve - you had me in 100% agreement until you threw out the socialized medicine bit!!! My disagreement being said, if you are appointed as the benevolent health dictator, then I'm in.

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            • #7
              Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

              Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
              Starving Steve's solutions to the Great Recession:

              Fire Bernanke and the other econ-frauds. Fire the economics professors in public universities. Hike the discount rate at the Fed to 6% over the rate of inflation in the CPI, in order to make-up for lost time and lost confidence. Raise the value of the dollar to bring-in foreign investment. Tie the dollar to gold. Take an axe to government spending: chop the Agriculture Dept; chop the Education Dept; chop the Environmental Protection Agency; slash defence spending; chop the Federal Housing Administration; chop the Federal Reserve Bank System; end the TARP; end all TBTF and bail-outs and stimulus. Hike taxes on everything. Start a federal sales tax on all consumption except for food. Chop the civil service to the bone. Roll-back federal wages to 1970 levels. Minimum 50% down-payment to buy a house. Chop the Energy Department, and get rid of Dr. Chu who runs it. Flood cities with cheap serviced land. Flood the electric grid with cheap atomic and hydro-electric power. Substitute natural gas for oil wherever possible, and drill everywhere for oil. Socialize medicine, and get rid of all for-profit, private health insurance companies and hospitals.

              Let's begin now! No-one is going to get tax-breaks on anything, and we all are going to tighten our belts and suck our stomachs in. We all dig-out of the Great Recession through shared-suffering and socialism.
              What Planet do you live on?

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              • #8
                Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

                Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                I could live with this! A few of my favorite oxen get gored, but the package as a whole seems equitable. Starving Steve for president!
                Trolls.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Slump Goes On: Why?

                  Starving Steve's solutions to the Great Recession:
                  Hike the value of the dollar? That's supposed to help? Let's make our debt MORE painful?

                  None of your solutions address how to deal with the massive and mounting debt.

                  Furthermore while I have been and continue to be a believer in a public option, fully socialized medicine a la Canada (as opposed to Europe) is a very poor solution.

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