The Military-Industrial Complex...

[KGW]

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[c1ue]

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My understanding was slightly different. The pentagon is able to deny the public access while keeping its own GPS use fully accurate. Even more than deny public access, intentionally send poor nav data to public channels to disrupt threats using the public GPS signal, like c1ue's laptop-on-a-missile..

In the civilian signal, there is no encryption to speak of. It would be easy to disrupt the functioning of the system via playing with the time stamps, for example, but the GPS satellites don't beam specific signals on specific request - they're pretty much blanketing the whole earth with a simple radio wave that just says where the satellite is vs. some reference point and when the specific signal was sent out.

Thus playing with time stamps or reference position would affect everyone using signals from specific modified satellites unless of course the modifications are pre-programmed into the software and activatable via options.

This also is very do-able, but exposes the counterbalancing since it will exist ahead of time in software/hardware. There would still be games to be played figuring out WHICH option is usable, but again given the ubiquity and ability to test...

On the military signals, as noted before, there almost certainly is existing encryption - otherwise we'd be able to access it now. Within that system, there are still fundamental limitations unless the military signals are actually beamed on request.

Possible, but it would require far higher power and would thus be increasingly detectable.

As for laptop on a missile - you should note that this example would completely avoid the entire US GPS system. All it does is mimic the US GPS signals using outside sources.

Only if the munitions specifically only use US military GPS would this approach be avoided - and in that case you also expose the military system to outside investigation.

After all, the hacker would know largely what goes in and largely what is supposed to come out.

Ultimately this is all moot. The GPS signals are very weak radio waves and thus are easily jammable by any opponent with a modicum of understanding of radio.

Much as with a significant part of the modern military arsenal - its effectiveness is inversely proportional to the modernity of the opponent.

[GRG55]

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This has everything to do with whatever triangular trade exists between the US and the Saudis and little to do with their military capabilities. When has the Saudi military ever been considered credible? In the past some of this enormously expensive 'cutting edge' hardware was never uncrated.

There is no need to uncrate the stuff...the "commissions" have already been deposited in Zurich. That's the main objective if you are an influential Saudi...

[lakedaemonian]

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What's the Arabic word for big fat milking cow?

Have a look at the LAST biggest Saudi Arms Deal Ever(until now).....and the biggest single export contract in UK history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Yamamah_arms_deal

Have a look at what happened when the UK Serious Fraud Office started to investigate it....it got kaboshed in the best interest of the public and national security.

Pols, defense workers, Saudi royals and hangers on all win......I just haven't yet seen proof of how the pols(and their senior advisors) benefit(beyond votes) from the largesse.

It would be great to see a website that links Saudi oil money to the pols and senior advisors upon their retirement from active government "service".

How far removed does that cash have to be in order to be free of corruption?

[don]

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Imagine the outrage from the government's 9/11 conspiracy theory adherents...