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[hayekvindicated]

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Yep. I wonder if this is how some Germans felt in 1932.
My own grandfather was one of them, and he always warned (and worried) that it could happen here too. The Milgram Experiments proved decades ago that we are not any different than they were.

I almost choked at this comment. Palin is similar to the Nazis how exactly?

Palin may not be bright but Nazi she is not (nor are any of the Republicans). The lunacy of the left these days far exceeds the anti-Communist paranoia of the 1950s McCarthyite right.

[Raz]

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I started making this prediction as a drunken joke, but it's becoming more frighteningly true every day.

Palin's path to the Whitehouse:

1. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan drag on dragging Obama's popularity down with them.

2. Economy "double dips" making the electorate very surly.

3. Dummy-crats renominate Obama because that's the kind of thing they do.

4. The Republi-con party splits 3 ways - Palin gets the tea party, Romney gets the millionare/corporate faction and the Religious right goes for a Huckabee type - someone with no great love for the moneyed elite.

5. In the first contested convention in 50 years Palin gets the nomination because the Christan right won't support Romney (Mormon) and the Huckabee type won't get the support of the big money people. Besides, the tea partyers act like the SA and strong-arm the nomination.

6. The coalition who elected Obama (young, people of color, old time liberals) don't show up on election day.

7. The Republi-cons use their machine to grab Florida or Ohio (like they did before).
8. President Palin (our new Fuhrer)

You had me on board with you until the part about the Republicans stealing the 2000 Election in Florida.
That bastion of conservatism, the New York Times, said that Bush won Florida in 2000 and a recount would have given the same result.

If the Republicans nominate Palin they should change their symbol from an elephant to Alfred E. Neuman.

[Raz]

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No one seems to be remembering that Palin quit in the middle of her term as governor; she wants to be rich/famous/political, but not president, it pays too little and leaves her open to criticism, which narcissists don't handle so well. She knows that the best bang for the effort-buck in this country is celebrity, not power.

I don't see Palin as a narcissist but I do have that concern about Obama.

How could someone serious about holding even higher office quit the one she had?

Well now, she's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, is she?

[flintlock]

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Besides, the tea partyers act like the SA and strong-arm the nomination.

President Palin (our new Fuhrer)

Oh please! Do liberals have to demonize everyone who disagree with them? I can't stand Palin, but she is no Nazi, and the Tea Partyers I've seen would have a hard time strong-arming a small child.

If you want to fear being "strong armed ", start with big government.

[jpatter666]

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Oh please! Do liberals have to demonize everyone who disagree with them? I can't stand Palin, but she is no Nazi, and the Tea Partyers I've seen would have a hard time strong-arming a small child.

Yeah, gotta agree here. Palin's a media-hound, but nowhere near a Nazi. That's not to say I don't see very eerie parallels to the 30s. America may well see the emergence of a fascist-style political leader, but it sure as hell isn't Palin. Nowhere near the raw charisma levels needed and the US is not yet at the social/political/economic depths that would be required for that to even have a remote chance of occurrence. I've seen her speak [decided to amuse myself one afternoon] and she bored me to tears with nonsense platitudes.....

[chr5648]

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Weren't palin and beck extolling the virtues of the MLK and egalitarianism a few weeks ago? How could she possibly be a nazi or facist when she thinks everyone is equal? She's just another elite.

[sunskyfan]

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Republicans being stupid? Alfred E. Neuman? Been there did that!

[sunskyfan]

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How could someone serious about holding even higher office quit the one she had?

Like Bob Dole? She quit at the most opportune time for her: just before she became a target of investigation in Alaska.

[sunskyfan]

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You cross a Libertarian with Order who believes bat shit crazy things and you get a well organized hunter mom with quirky kid names attending a whacky church out in the Frontier. You take that same Libertarian out of the Frontier and give them power, a taste of enforcing order, a mandate, and an adoring throng and you will see Fascism. Narcism turns to violent insecurity in a heartbeat.

[fallout]

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She's an unenlightened demagogue, in the Roman sense of the word, willing to exploit the confusion, desperation, and seething anger of the itinerant masses for her own ends. All her corn-pone "solutions" are damaging, misguided, or downright reactionary, a search for a lost past that never was (except in historical revisionism), and some scapegoats to blame it on. An evangelist-savoir battling the dark forces working working insidiously to put the America of WalMart, Walt Disney World, Nascar, and Burger King into the collapsed society hall of fame -- where it's heading anyway, due to the bad choices these self-same citizens made during an extraordinary bonanza era of cheap oil and wealth. Naturally she frequently resorts to prayer, which is what people resort to when they don't understand what is happening to them. Meanwhile the Tea party has become the modern version of the old US "Know-Nothing" party of the 1850's, full of hate and generalized but unfocused anger. Bring out the John Bircher hobgoblins!
In short, a badly-educated, child-like, war-mongering opportunist easily manipulated by backstage extremist billionaires who think they don't have enough money yet. In the process she'll turn the sad remnants of the Republican party into a suicide cult, but she might just get elected and you can kiss the 230-year-long experiment in representative government goodbye for good in the aftermath.

[hayekvindicated]

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I don't see Palin as a narcissist but I do have that concern about Obama.



Well now, she's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, is she?

Obama is the most self-absorbed, self-obsessed narcissistic President I ever saw. His arrogance is matched only by his ignorance and both are quite monumental. He may be the first president to successfully drive Jewish Americans in droves permanently to the Republicans - and that really takes some doing!

[hayekvindicated]

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Oh please! Do liberals have to demonize everyone who disagree with them?

YES! That's what they've been doing for six decades! (For the record, Im not a Randist)

[fallout]

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Rachet and pawl again, classic manipulation and control techniques. Russia's not to distant history is also full of bungling, inept reformers followed by ever more reactionary, repressive "leaders". It is most effective, see also the Hegelian Dialectic.
http://smithbowen.net/linfame/stopme/chapter02.html

[fallout]

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Best quote on iTulip since 2008, easily. Well done.

[jneal3]

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Like Bob Dole? She quit at the most opportune time for her: just before she became a target of investigation in Alaska.

I don't remember the details, but didn't he quit to run for President? Didn't she quit to cash in on a better private sector gig (ostensibly to pay legal bills, but please)? Wouldn't she still have been subject to investigation?

In her first presidential debate the first question put to her (and the one that would dog her campaign) will be, "Will you quit this job after two years if you get a better offer?"

My opinion is she just wants cash and a spotlight, not power. She has no actual agenda she wants to enact. She's wallowing in the power she has just twittering (such an appropriate word) with no repercussions, nothing really on the line. She's a personage, not a leader.