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    Florida Skips Offshore Oil Binge but Still Pays



    By DAMIEN CAVE

    KEY LARGO, Fla. — When rigs first started drilling for oil off Louisiana’s coast in the 1940s, Floridians scanned their shoreline, with its resorts and talcum-white beaches, and said, No thanks. Go ahead and drill, they told other Gulf Coast states; we’ll stick with tourism.

    Now that invisible wall separating Florida from its neighbors has been breached. The spreading BP oil spill has already reached the Panhandle, and if it rides currents to the renowned reefs and fishing holes on both Florida coasts, the Sunshine State could become a vacation destination with the rules of a museum: Look, but don’t touch.

    All because other states decided to rely on oil and gas, angry Floridians say; all because, in the water, there are no borders — only currents that can carry catastrophes hundreds of miles.

    “There’s nothing we can do,” said Mike McLaughlin, 42, while stretching tanned shark skin on a dock here in the Keys. “We’re just sitting here, waiting for it all to disappear.”

    Many Floridians, of course, say they are heartbroken for Louisiana, and they still reserve their most caustic criticism for BP and government regulators.

    But with oil continuing to gush from a well off Louisiana, Florida has grown angrier at its oil-friendly neighbors. Gov. Charlie Crist said in an interview last week that “there’s a certain level of frustration” with the fact that Florida gets little if any financial benefit from offshore drilling, even though it shares the environmental risks.

    On docks and beaches, many Floridians are less measured, and compare Louisiana to a neighbor with a bonfire that has set their block ablaze.

    To some extent, it is a conflict set up by history. Louisiana and Florida may share the Gulf of Mexico, but they are essentially oil opposites.

    Ever since World War II, when tar balls washed ashore across the gulf after German U-boats sank Allied oil tankers, Florida officials have held drilling at bay with state laws and lobbying in Washington to protect their state’s bustling tourism industry.

    Louisiana, meanwhile, is an oil state through and through that discovered its first commercial deposits in 1901 and started drilling offshore in 1947.

    State officials have never looked back, and the resulting divide between the two states is now economic as well as cultural: oil and gas contribute about $65 billion a year to the Louisiana economy, according to the state’s oil and gas association, while in Florida, tourism accounts for about $60 billion.

    The difference, Floridians now note, is that a crowded bar in Miami has no impact on New Orleans. Oil spills are a different story.

    Sean Snaith, an economist at the University of Central Florida, recently completed a study showing that Florida’s gulf coast could lose 195,000 jobs and $11 billion this year alone if the spill cuts tourism in half.

    With oil drilling — as with Wall Street — “there will be significant rethinking about who benefits and who bears the cost,” Mr. Snaith predicted.

    Florida has a lot to lose, even beyond tourism and fishing. Housing has become increasingly concentrated along the state’s 8,436 miles of shoreline. With property values already down by a third in many areas and unemployment around 12 percent, the state could see its economy darkened for a decade by the spill.

    Also vulnerable is the third-largest reef system in the world, which sits just offshore in the likely path of the loop current that, according to oceanographers,has already sent small blots of oil around Florida’s tip.

    Residents worry about losing not just their livelihood, but also their way of life.

    Fishermen motor out every day from docks all over the Keys searching for mahi mahi or lobster when the season opens in August, leaving early in the morning for that blissful moment when the sun rises over an open sea.

    Boat-dwellers like Paul Peterson, 57, who piloted his 21-foot sailboat here from Massachusetts nine years ago, can hardly imagine being told that the water is off limits, or that the fish are too toxic to eat.

    Mr. Peterson has been fighting Stage 4 lymphoma for years. He wears a gold necklace with a coin pulled from a local shipwreck, and he says the memories of diving — especially a few years back “with a great gal from Colorado” — have kept him going.

    “It’s a hard fight,” said Mr. Peterson, referring to his cancer with the dropped r’s of New England. “And this place is so beautiful that it would be a sin. I don’t even want to say it or think about it.”

    Many of his neighbors are still angry about how the cable news networks publicized the appearance of tar balls in Key West on May 17, tar balls that were not actually from the spill, leading some experts to surmise that they may have come from a ship.

    Indeed, Florida is already learning that perception can define reality. Key Largo hosted a “reef fest” for divers last week, but after an extensive advertising campaign estimated to have reached 1.5 million people, only six divers showed up. Jackie Harder, president of the local chamber of commerce, said she had expected 300.

    Charter boat captains and diving instructors are also struggling. In previous years, they would usually have had bookings for much of July by now. But next month is wide open for old-timers like Skip Bradeen, 67, who said he had never seen it this bad in his 40 years of taking amateurs out to land the big one.

    What really worries most fishermen and environmental scientists are the long-term consequences if oil is carried around the coast of Florida, with plumes underwater and slicks onshore.

    “It’s untold billions of babies of fish and lobsters and crabs,” said Douglas N. Rader, chief ocean scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, an advocacy group. “A wide array of seafood that is in the surface layers of the sea are transferred through the superhighway of the loop current and are depending on the habitats affected by the oil.”

    Gary Sands, a third-generation fisherman who works just past the Pilot House bar here in Key Largo, took a break on a hot morning of hammering together lobster traps to explain exactly what that means.

    Sitting a few dozen yards from where Mr. McLaughlin stretched his shark skins, Mr. Sands pointed to a pair of blond teenagers, the sons of a fellow fisherman.

    “I’m 68, but these boys, they’ve got 30 years,” he said. “If it doesn’t come back for these boys, what’s going to happen?”

    Albert Pflueger, 50, another fisherman, whose family once owned the largest taxidermy company in South Florida, pondered the question. Across the docks sat a boat named What Next. Removing his sunglasses, Mr. Pflueger said he could imagine the Keys emptying out like an abandoned mining town.

    “The whole Keys makes its living on the water,” he said. “If there is no water, there is no Keys.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/us...ef=todayspaper

  • #2
    Re: Florida: Total Eclipse

    I also object to BP polluting my world. And like Floridians, I don't get my gas from the Gulf of Mexico. I get it from the filling station, like other normal people.

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      Like many Floridian craft, this one runs on coconut milk and hubris

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by don View Post




        Like many Floridian craft, this one runs on coconut milk and hubris
        During my only trip to the US I was amazed at how wasteful Americans are with fuel. The cars are far too big and the engines clumsily burn far too much fuel to carry far too few people.

        Regardless of what happens with BP, the price of oil is going to go up. The gas price needs to accurately reflect the risks - environmental risks, health and safety risks, the difficulty of drilling in inhospitable climates etc. Hollywood limousine liberalism needs to face up to the real world.

        The sooner the world finds a substitute to crude for transport the better.

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        • #5
          Re: Florida: Total Eclipse

          Or This:

          Greg

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            Originally posted by unlucky View Post
            I also object to BP polluting my world. And like Floridians, I don't get my gas from the Gulf of Mexico. I get it from the filling station, like other normal people.
            Funniest thing I've read in a while.

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            • #7
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              But on a serious note: Florida thought they didn't need oil extraction to help the economy. For years, we had a three legged stool comprised of tourism, agriculture and development. We thought that was enough to provide stability.

              Agriculture suffered due to freezes, hurricanes, higher land and labor costs, increased competition from Mexico, Belize and Brazil. Development has pretty much collapsed. Tourism was concentrated in the Orlando theme parks, beaches in certain coastal areas (Keys, Panhandle, Southwest and Southeast Florida) and the ports serving cruise ships (Miami and Fort Lauderdale). Now beach tourism is under pressure, leaving us the cruise ships and theme parks.

              In an example of how the laws of economics work; some agricultural land that had been fallow waiting for development is now being returned to ag. production, mainly citrus.
              Greg

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                Funniest thing I've read in a while.

                Glad to provide a laugh if I can in these gloomy times. But I confess I was inspired by an interview I saw years ago on German TV - a housewife was asked if she was in favour of nuclear power for generating electricity. She replied, "Oh no! I get my electricity from the socket like everyone else!" AFAIK, she was dead serious.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                  Funniest thing I've read in a while.
                  Not as funny as when the US gov bails out BP.

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                    On a more positive note, this may be the future of Transport.

                    One can only hope that this replaces the internal cumbustion engine.

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                    • #11
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                      I just got back from Florida. I was there in the "off season" since school wasn't out yet for the locals and the snow birds are back up North. There was no oil there yet when we left last week.

                      We spent 4 days in the Keys - it's true the water is the prime draw for that area. The water is mostly very shallow so if any of the large plumes make it that way they'll spread out as the water gets shallow.

                      I think that the dispersants will turn out to be a huge mistake. The bulk of the life in the ocean is under the surface. In the Keys you don't see much until you get under the water. Keeping the oil off the surface doesn't seem like a good idea to me. The beaches are far less valuable than the coral reefs. The best stuff is under water, and beach sand won't die from oil exposure.

                      The locals are really pissed at BP. The thing is, they are just as dependent on oil as they are on the water. All of the commerce in the keys is oil driven. The boats, the cars everything. The water is pumped in from the mainland and most of their food is trucked in too. The railway that first opened up the Keys to land based transport is gone and only a highway remains. The keys would suffer more from high fuel prices than most areas. Their entire way of life has been shaped by cheap transport.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by hayekvindicated View Post
                        On a more positive note, this may be the future of Transport.

                        One can only hope that this replaces the internal cumbustion engine.
                        Thanks for the link. Much as I love Top Gear I was annoyed that he didn't address where the hydrogen comes from. I believe at present it's mostly from natural gas, so that car's not as green as it appears.

                        And why don't we just use the NG? Then you barely have to do anything: infrastructure's in place already; our internal combustion engines can quite easily be converted to burn it etc etc.

                        There are probably good arguments for not going this route - I believe Matt Simmons thinks its insane to use NG for transport as it's the only thing that can effectively be used for heating - but I don't see any logic provided for the hydrogen car that isn't bested by the NG alternative.

                        If you address this by producing the hydrogen without resorting to a fossil fuel source I'd love it. Absent that it's just more green-washing.

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                        • #13
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                          American's politicians have pandered for many many years. While we should have been taxing oil to keep it artificially high, as have the Europeans, we've been keeping it artificially low. As a predictable result, we have suburbs and "exurbs" that stretch 50+ miles from the urban center, with multiple Wal-Marts and Best Buys stretched throughout. It's quite disgusting, the waste of prime agricultural land that we've turned into sprawling suburbs and parking lots for the big boxes. We'll pay the piper eventually.

                          Where I live, within the past 20 years there has been an amazing transformation. Areas that used to be sprawling with farms and forest are now sprawling with Crate and Barrels, Targets and Barnes and Nobles. 4 lane roads out into the suburbs where the businessmen now live. The suburbs are so widely spread now. And there is so much wasted land. And most of those people commute 40 minutes to work downtown everyday. It's maddening.

                          Although it's not as bad as Denver. That is the most horrifying example of a city I've ever encountered. Hundreds of miles of "exurbs" with cookie-cutter housing and apartment complexes and condos. Built in the middle of a desert. Un. Real.

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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by Munger View Post
                            American's politicians have pandered for many many years. While we should have been taxing oil to keep it artificially high, as have the Europeans, we've been keeping it artificially low. As a predictable result, we have suburbs and "exurbs" that stretch 50+ miles from the urban center, with multiple Wal-Marts and Best Buys stretched throughout. It's quite disgusting, the waste of prime agricultural land that we've turned into sprawling suburbs and parking lots for the big boxes. We'll pay the piper eventually.

                            Where I live, within the past 20 years there has been an amazing transformation. Areas that used to be sprawling with farms and forest are now sprawling with Crate and Barrels, Targets and Barnes and Nobles. 4 lane roads out into the suburbs where the businessmen now live. The suburbs are so widely spread now. And there is so much wasted land. And most of those people commute 40 minutes to work downtown everyday. It's maddening.

                            Although it's not as bad as Denver. That is the most horrifying example of a city I've ever encountered. Hundreds of miles of "exurbs" with cookie-cutter housing and apartment complexes and condos. Built in the middle of a desert. Un. Real.
                            As sad and depressing the site of the big box stores which are an absolute eye sore, whether oil was cheap or expensive, I am pretty sure the country would develop in the same way, after all this is america. I still prefer it over the central planning and forced urbanization which many try to force on others.

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                            • #15
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                              To each is own.

                              To me it's a matter of preparing your country for the future: eventually gasoline will become very expensive. I am not for "central planning" on a micro scale -- i.e., the government forcing people to build near a city. But taxing is a very simple way to promote behavior constructive for society or or discourage behavior destructive to society while allowing the market to figure out the best micro solutions.

                              So we can try to keep gasoline as cheap as possible for as long as possible and allow an unsustainable infrastructure to develop. Or we can tax it, let the market figure out how to deal with expensive gas *while it's not that expensive* and use the excess profits to offset the income tax burden or whatever else.

                              I don't think it would take central planning -- $8 gasoline would probably make many people rethink living an hour or more from where they work, which would be enough to deter idiot builders from throwing up yet another suburb 40 miles out from the city.

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