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  • BP, the news is getting bad

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...-BP-spill.html

    Obama's 3 Mile Island

    Mike

  • #2
    Re: BP, the news is getting bad

    Originally posted by Mega View Post
    At this point its getting ridiculous with the whole obama/bp thing. At a certain point you got to grab your balls and do something, anything.

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    • #3
      Re: BP, the news is getting bad

      Originally posted by chr5648 View Post
      At this point its getting ridiculous with the whole obama/bp thing. At a certain point you got to grab your balls and do something, anything.

      I was wondering how long before this sort of article started to appear. From the NYT:
      With Drilling Stopped, Losses Could Multiply

      Published: June 4, 2010


      Chett Chiasson, the executive director of Port Fourchon in Louisiana, has a message for President Obama — and any Americans who have applauded the administration’s decision to halt deep-water drilling in the Gulf of Mexico: You just don’t get it...

      ...The Interior Department’s six-month moratorium on deep-water drilling most directly affects 17 oil companies, including multinational giants like BP, Exxon Mobil, Shell and Chevron. The order, issued May 27, forced 33 rigs to shut down operations.

      Every one of those rigs is serviced out of Port Fourchon, according to Mr. Chiasson, so the drilling ban could end up slashing the incomes of thousands of other workers — from welders and divers to caterers and drivers — who depend on the industry.

      One oil industry group, the Louisiana Mid-Continent Oil and Gas Association, has estimated that each exploration and production job represents four supporting jobs in and around the region. If that is the case, thousands of jobs — and millions of dollars in wages — could be affected by the work stoppage, the group said.

      With that in mind, a growing chorus of residents, business owners and local politicians in the gulf region are imploring the Obama administration to reconsider the deep-water drilling ban...

      ...In a separate letter Wednesday to Mr. Obama and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana said: “During one of the most challenging economic periods in decades, the last thing we need is to enact public policies that will certainly destroy thousands of existing jobs while preventing the creation of thousands more.”...

      ...A long-term pause in deep-water work could be devastating to local economies already struggling with fishing restrictions, frightened tourists and other effects of the spill.
      The biggest concern, said Larry Wall, a spokesman for the regional oil and gas group, is that rig owners and operators will ultimately cancel their contracts and move operations to the coastal areas of Africa, Brazil or other points abroad, rather than let rigs sit idle.

      Should that happen en masse, it is unlikely that deep-water work in the gulf would resume quickly even after the moratorium is lifted, given the time and expense involved in relocating rigs.
      “The owner of the rig, once he goes overseas, it’s two years minimum before he comes back,” Mr. Wall said. “And there’s a fixed number of those things in the world. If they keep moving, we’re going to have a big problem in the gulf.”

      In some instances, oil companies are invoking what is known a “force majeure” clause in their drilling contracts with rig owners. Typically used in the event of hurricanes or other natural disasters, it allows the operator a way out of its contract when a major, unexpected event occurs.
      Anadarko, one of the oil companies affected by the moratorium, said on Thursday that it had notified three of its drilling companies — Noble, Transocean and Diamond Offshore Drilling — of its plan to invoke the clause.

      Diamond said that a different oil company also canceled a contract to use another one of its rigs, the Ocean Monarch.

      Larry Dickerson, the president and chief executive of Diamond, said in an e-mail message that the future of that rig was “uncertain, with a move to international waters the most likely outcome.”
      Mr. Dickerson said that while his company had not yet reduced staff, if the rig were forced to relocate, it would normally use local workers. “I am sure our roustabouts and floor hands are worried,” he said.

      Michael A. Pontiff, the sales manager for Gator Equipment Rental in Houma, La., a company that rents welding machines and air compressors to offshore drilling companies, said that he was not waiting for the worst, and that he had written letters to state leaders and Mr. Obama.

      “I’m a simple person,” Mr. Pontiff said. “I just want to know that our politicians are doing the right thing and that they know a lot of people’s lives and livelihoods depend on it.”...
      Last edited by GRG55; June 05, 2010, 03:46 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: BP, the news is getting bad

        I think this whole event is a huge blow to the entire US offshore oil sector and one more element that will contribute to the eventual overshoot & collapse of the oil fueled economy.

        Time to get my redneck solar panels up!

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          Re: BP, the news is getting bad

          Can I rent trailer space from ya?

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          • #6
            Re: BP, the news is getting bad

            still not looking good.

            http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...ov_stream.html

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
              Can I rent trailer space from ya?
              I'm actually staying in my RV at a little place 8 miles from the plant. $400 a month, all utilities included.

              I'm contemplating buying land. This isn't a bad place to be if TSHTF.

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              • #8
                Re: BP, the news is getting bad

                Some local perspective. This will be devastating to the economy in LA.

                http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/95708099.html

                According to the article you are looking at a loss of about 80,000 bpd production in 2011. That is less than 1% of our daily demand(20mbpd). So unless this thing drags on or we let the enviro weenies use this to halt all off shore drilling I don't see a major supply disruption being an issue.

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                • #9
                  Re: BP, the news is getting bad

                  Since Bp is such a chronic safety violator, I'd see that going over with our current administration only if they are terminally punished.

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                  • #10
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                    One thing about Obama and the democrats,they have elections coming. The economy is in bad enough shape already. They realize how important the jobs and oil revenue is to the people AND it's a big chunk of money the feds get in offshore leasing. They will hold their meetings, make some changes to procedures and drilling will resume.

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                    • #11
                      Re: BP, the news is getting bad

                      Originally posted by Minion View Post
                      I think this whole event is a huge blow to the entire US offshore oil sector and one more element that will contribute to the eventual overshoot & collapse of the oil fueled economy.

                      Time to get my redneck solar panels up!
                      You can put up all the solar panels you want to, but in the end, you will have almost zero-power.

                      You need to learn the mathematics and the significance of the number zero because the Sun puts-out almost zero useable photo-electric energy here on Earth. "Zero times anything is still" ZERO..... Got it? That is God's Law, not mine.

                      If only geographers like myself were planning the energy policy for this world, we wouldn't be in this Great Recession now.... Got it?

                      2 CALORIES PER SQ. CENTIMETRE PER MINUTE AT NOON IN SUMMER at the surface of the Earth on a clear and dry day is virtually ZERO..... Got it?

                      The U.S. Dept. of Energy under Dr. Chow doesn't seem to understand it. The Democrats don't seem to understand it. Obama doesn't seem to understand it. The NDP here in British Columbia doesn't seem to understand it. Gordon Campbell, the Premier of BC, doesn't seem to understand it. The pot-heads here in Victoria, BC don't get it. Advanced Micro-Devices (AMD) in Santa Clara, Cal. doesn't seem to understand it (the Law of Zero) either.

                      We had better embrace and support BP's drilling efforts because without atomic energy, there is no viable near-term alternative energy for the Western World, including Canada and Europe.
                      Last edited by Starving Steve; June 06, 2010, 02:55 PM.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                        You can put up all the solar panels you want to, but in the end, you will have almost zero-power.

                        You need to learn the mathematics and the significance of the number zero because the Sun puts-out almost zero useable photo-electric energy here on Earth. "Zero times anything is still" ZERO..... Got it? That is God's Law, not mine.

                        If only geographers like myself were planning the energy policy for this nation, we wouldn't be in this Great Recession now.... Got it?
                        Shut up, troll.
                        Every interest bearing loan is mathematically impossible to pay back.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by ricket View Post
                          Shut up, troll.
                          now, now, ricket. can't you see steve's upset because no one wanted to hire him to go to the gulf to show the pelicans how to lick the oil off their legs?



                          derp... lick wings & beaks clean too...

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                          • #14
                            Re: BP, the news is getting bad

                            Originally posted by Minion View Post
                            I'm actually staying in my RV at a little place 8 miles from the plant. $400 a month, all utilities included.

                            I'm contemplating buying land. This isn't a bad place to be if TSHTF.
                            Thank Southern Company and Duke Energy Company for your cheap electric power rates. Their corporate planners have brains in their head, not pot. They make electricity from atomic energy, hydro-electric dams, cheap and plentiful natural gas, and clean coal. They do not piss-around with windmills and solar panels. They pay fat dividends, and they don't horse-around with cap-'n-trade schemes (rackets). And yes, I have stock in these companies, and I also have stock in GE because I strongly support atomic power.
                            Last edited by Starving Steve; June 06, 2010, 06:27 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Re: BP, the news is getting bad

                              Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                              You can put up all the solar panels you want to, but in the end, you will have almost zero-power.
                              Yo, Steve, whassup?!?

                              Ah Gawt ma'h math all set. 300 watts / hr / day x 8 hours / day = 2.4kwh / day.
                              I think I can run a dorm fridge and sum LED lights on that.

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