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  • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

    Originally posted by Roughneck View Post
    What a freaking tard,the riser pipe???? It's cut off and laying on the gulf floor. Either he's nuts or he has some insane agenda I can't figure out.
    I think he mentioned he shorted BP. It might be a factor.

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    • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

      Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
      I think he mentioned he shorted BP. It might be a factor.
      Did I hear him say the f four letter word? Anyone heard that?

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      • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

        TAMPA, Fla. — Researchers in Florida say they have the first scientific proof that two plumes of oil beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico came from BP's broken well.

        University of South Florida scientists said Friday they linked the oil to BP's well based on chemical tests of two plumes discovered in late May. BP initially denied the plumes even existed.

        Federal researchers say concentrations of underwater oil doubled last month over what they were in May.

        Figuring out the oil's source is pivotal as the government assesses the environmental damage caused by the massive spill and how much BP will have to pay for it.

        (This version corrects that federal researchers say the plumes were twice as concentrated last month as they were in May, not that the concentrations have doubled since last month.)

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        • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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          • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

            The whole basis for that new video, "Reggie", is the phony CNN "studio door" video that you posted to this thread with a while back.

            *****

            Maybe Starving Steve was right?

            http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...7202-2,00.html

            The BP Spill: Has the Damage Been Exaggerated?
            By Michael Grunwald / Port Fourchon, La. Thursday, Jul. 29, 2010

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            • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

              Originally posted by babbittd View Post
              The whole basis for that new video, "Reggie", is the phony CNN "studio door" video that you posted to this thread with a while back.

              *****

              Maybe Starving Steve was right?

              http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...7202-2,00.html

              The BP Spill: Has the Damage Been Exaggerated?
              By Michael Grunwald / Port Fourchon, La. Thursday, Jul. 29, 2010
              I don't trust the digital images being served-up, nor the narratives being published, for there are simply too many intermediate nodes in the media delivery system, which results in a large number of variables that can be manipulated in subtle ways to create noise, at best, and outright deliberate deception, at worst. It is my point of view, therefore, that we simply don't know what's going on in the gulf, for we rely almost exclusively on these digital objects.

              As far as the SpillBillies video, as amateurish as it is, as least it attempts to assess motive that is consistent with current global agendas, even though we also have no way of validating this analysis at this point. But I give them credit for trying to think outside mainstream/alternative media boxes.
              The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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              • Crime of the Century

                The Crime of the Century: What BP and the US Government Don't Want You to Know, Part I


                The unprecedented disaster caused by the BP oil spill at the Deepwater Horizon Mississippi Canyon 252 site continues to expand even as National Incident Commander Thad Allen and BP assert that the situation is improving, the blown-out source capped and holding steady, the situation well in hand and cleanup operations are being scaled back. The New York Times declared on the front page this past week that the oil was disolving more rapidly than anticipated. Time magazine reported that environmental anti-advocate Rush Limbaugh had a point when he said the spill was a "leak". Thad Allen pointed out in a press conference that boats are still skimming on the surface, a futile gesture when the dispersant Corexit is being used to break down oil on the surface. As the oil is broken down, it mixes with the dispersant and flows under or over any booming operations.

                To judge from most media coverage, the beaches are open, the fishing restrictions being lifted and the Gulf resorts open for business in a healthy, safe environment. We, along with Pierre LeBlanc, spent the last few weeks along the Gulf coast from Louisiana to Florida, and the reality is distinctly different. The coastal communities of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida have been inundated by the oil and toxic dispersant Corexit 9500, and the entire region is contaminated. The once pristine white beaches that have been subject to intense cleaning operations now contain the oil/dispersant contamination to an unknown depth. The economic impacts potentially exceed even the devastation of a major hurricane like Katrina, the adverse impacts on health and welfare of human populations are increasing every minute of every day and the long-term effects are potentially life threatening.

                Over the Gulf from the Source (official term for the Deepwater Horizon spill site) in to shore there is virtually no sign of life anywhere in the vast areas covered by the dispersed oil and Corexit. This in a region previously abundant with life above and below the ocean's surface in all its diversity. For months now, scientists and environmental organizations have been asking where all the animals are. The reported numbers of marine animals lost from BP fall far short of the observed loss. The water has a heavy appearance and the slightly iridescent greenish yellow color that extends as far as the eye can see.

                Wake of vessel near the Source through the toxic dispersant Corexit

                Corexit and a thin line of orangish crude dispersing on the surface

                The ocean covered in Corexit is green, and a line of crude being dispersed
                On two, unrestricted day-long flights, on July 22nd and 23rd, we were fortunate enough to be on with official clearance. We saw a total of four distressed dolphins and three schools of rays on the surface. As the bottom of the ocean is covered with crude and only the oil on the surface broken up by dispersant, the rays are forced up to the surface in a futile attempt to find food and oxygen. Birds are scarce where one would usually find thousands upon thousands. The Gulf of Mexico from the Source into the shore is a giant kill zone.

                Rays near the Source
                In May, Mother Nature Network blogger Karl Burkart received a tip from an anonymous fisherman-turned-BP contractor in the form of a distressed text message, describing a near-apocalyptic sight near the location of the sunken Deepwater Horizon -- fish, dolphins, rays, squid, whales, and thousands of birds -- "as far as the eye can see," dead and dying. According to his statement, which was later confirmed by another report from an individual working in the Gulf, whale carcasses were being shipped to a highly guarded location where they were processed for disposal.

                CitizenGlobal Gulf News Desk received photos that matched the report and are being published on Karl's blog today. Local fisherman in Alabama report sighting tremendous numbers of dolphins, sharks, and fish moving in towards shore as the initial waves of oil and dispersant approached in June. Many third- and fourth-generation fisherman declared emphatically that they had never seen or heard of any similar event in the past. Scores of animals were fleeing the leading edge of toxic dispersant mixed with oil. Those not either caught in the toxic mixture and killed out at sea, or fortunate enough to be out in safe water beyond the Source, died as the water closed in, and they were left no safe harbor. The numbers of birds, fish, turtles, and mammals killed by the use of Corexit will never be known as the evidence strongly suggests that BP worked with the Coast Guard, the Department of Homeland Security, the FAA, private security contractors, and local law enforcement, all of which cooperated to conceal the operations disposing of the animals from the media and the public.

                The majority of the disposal operations were carried out under cover of darkness. The areas along the beaches and coastal Islands where the dead animals were collected were closed off by the U.S. Coast Guard. On shore, private contractors and local law enforcement officials kept off limits the areas where the remains of the dead animals were dumped, mainly at the Magnolia Springs landfill by Waste Management where armed guards controlled access. The nearby weigh station where the Waste Management trucks passed through with their cargoes was also restricted by at least one sheriff's deputies in a patrol car, 24/7.

                Magnolia landfill during initial cleanup, courtesy of Press-Register, Connie Baggett


                Rest of the article here.

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                • Re: Crime of the Century

                  Part II of Cope's articles:

                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jerry-..._b_674481.html

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                  • Re: Crime of the Century

                    Corexit is an industrial strength soap. Kind of like dawn dish detergent. The toxicity and effects of it in the enviroment are being over stated and over blown. I have personally worked with many of the variants and they are not as toxic as people would have you believe. I'm not saying there won't be impacts to the enviroment from the spill but it's too early to tell what the long term damage will be. IMHO dispersing the oil and diluting it so it can be more readily broken down by microbes is a good thing. Letting large quanities of oil impact the fragile marshes would be a bad thing. As far as the government and BP covering up large animal kills etc.....I call BS. In the areas they just reopend to fishing the locals are catching fish like they haven't in 20 years. If the locals going out in the gulf to fish were seeing dead animals every where you would be reading about it on the coastal fishing boards which I frequent. Again, I'm not saying there won't be lasting effects because of the spill,time will tell. But the warm waters of the gulf are a lot different than the cold waters of Alaska.

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                    • Re: Crime of the Century

                      Originally posted by Roughneck View Post
                      Corexit is an industrial strength soap. Kind of like dawn dish detergent. The toxicity and effects of it in the enviroment are being over stated and over blown. I have personally worked with many of the variants and they are not as toxic as people would have you believe. I'm not saying there won't be impacts to the enviroment from the spill but it's too early to tell what the long term damage will be. IMHO dispersing the oil and diluting it so it can be more readily broken down by microbes is a good thing. Letting large quanities of oil impact the fragile marshes would be a bad thing. As far as the government and BP covering up large animal kills etc.....I call BS. In the areas they just reopend to fishing the locals are catching fish like they haven't in 20 years. If the locals going out in the gulf to fish were seeing dead animals every where you would be reading about it on the coastal fishing boards which I frequent. Again, I'm not saying there won't be lasting effects because of the spill,time will tell. But the warm waters of the gulf are a lot different than the cold waters of Alaska.
                      Your post highlights our black-box media's de-linking of reporting from reality and lack of accountable.
                      The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                      • Re: Update on BP's top kill efforts, now largest spill in US History

                        http://www.2theadvocate.com/sports/o...100504469.html

                        The breton islands and sound were one of the areas impacted by oil early on.

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