Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Crush them.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/37...des-in-Bangkok

LATEST: Thai soldiers with armored vehicles stormed into a fortified anti-government encampment in central Bangkok, breaking through bamboo barricades and killing at least two protesters in a crackdown after weeks of clashes that have killed dozens.
An Associated Press photographer said he had seen three foreign journalists shot during the army operation in Bangkok, and one of them appears dead.

The photographer saw the three at a hospital a few hours after the crackdown began today to clear an anti-government protest site in central Bangkok.

[reggie]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

The folks fighting in the streets who have been there for months have been paid twenty to thirty US dollars per day by Thaksin. He is spending millions of dollars to bank roll these rallies and Thais of all political persuasions know this. He is hoping for a wild upheaval leading to a government that will pardon him. I think the chances of him being assassinated like Long are very high.

Yup, just like Soros backing the colored revolutions in eastern Europe. Out of camera shot, they had food and vodka for the protesters, and behind that were armed security to make sure that the protesters protested.

I wonder who they'll fly-in for the American protests that have already been scheduled?

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Yup, just like Soros backing the colored revolutions in eastern Europe. Out of camera shot, they had food and vodka for the protesters, and behind that were armed security to make sure that the protesters protested.

I wonder who they'll fly-in for the American protests that have already been scheduled?

I wouldn't jump into conclusion so quickly, as I see it, the Thai protests are more than just political in nature.

If you notice the yellow camp are predominantly Chinese or mixed, whereas the red camps are mostly indigenous Thais even though Thaksin is Chinese.

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225868915779

He said that earlier in the afternoon he witnessed a Thai man being shot by the military just metres from the temple.
"I saw the bullet come straight out of the other side of his chest and he just dropped to the ground," he said.
When he and a monk went to help the man, Tickner said, they were also shot at.
"They knew I was a foreign journalist - they saw my cameras," he said.
"We were worried that the man was going to bleed to death on the pavement - we couldn't just leave him there."
Tickner said he and the monk carried the man inside to safety but he died in the temple.

[reggie]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

I wouldn't jump into conclusion so quickly, as I see it, the Thai protests are more than just political in nature.

If you notice the yellow camp are predominantly Chinese or mixed, whereas the red camps are mostly indigenous Thais even though Thaksin is Chinese.

Well, I've got more that 2,000 years of history that I'm basing my assessment on. And these guys don't seem to change their tactics because the public never seems to catch-on.

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Rural uprising is not child's play. Only half a century ago, Mao with a much smaller and terribly under funded army can eventually overrun Chiang's much larger and better equipped army with unlimited financing from the Chinese capitalists and military equipment from the Americans.

[Thailandnotes]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Somtow Sucharitkul writes..(link at the bottom)

"I have been composing a long, day by day account of the "troubles" of the last three days, which I have not yet posted. The reason is that I've been getting a lot of mail asking me to explain "the truth" to people overseas."



- Thaksin was democratically elected, but became increasingly undemocratic, and the country gradually devolved from a nation where oligarchs skimmed off the top to a kleptocracy of one. During his watch, thousands of people were summarily executed in the South of Thailand and in a bizarre "war on drugs" in which body count was considered a marker of success.


-- the coup that ousted Thaksin was of course completely illegal, but none of the people who carried it out are in the present government.


-- the yellow shirts' greatest error in moulding its international image was to elevate Thaksin's corruption as its major bone of contention. Thai governments have always been corrupt. The extent of corruption and the fact that much of it went into only one pocket was shocking to Thais, but the west views all "second-rate countries" as being corrupt. Had they used the human rights violations and muzzling of the press as their key talking points, the "heroic revolution" archetype would have been moulded with opposite protagonists, and CNN and BBC would be telling an opposite story today.


-- the constitution which was approved by a referendum after the coup and which brought back democracy was flawed, but it provided more checks and balances, and made election fraud a truly accountable offense for the first time.


-- the parliamentary process by which the Democrat coalition came to power was the same process by which the Lib Dems and Tories have attained power in Britain. The parliament that voted in this government consists entirely of democratically elected members.


-- no one ever disputed the red shirts' right to peaceful assembly, and the government went out of its way to accede to their demands.


-- this country already has democracy. Not a perfect one, but the idea of "demanding democracry" is sheer fantasy


-- the yellow shirts did not succeed in getting any of their demands from the government. The last two governments changed because key figures were shown to have committed election fraud. They simply did not take their own constitution seriously enough to follow it.


-- the red TV station has a perfect right to exist, but if foreign journalists actually understood Thai, they would realize that much of its content went far beyond any constitutionally acceptable limits of "protected speech" in a western democracy. Every civilized society limits speech when it actually harms others, whether by inciting hate or by slander. The government may have been wrong to brusquely pull the plug, but was certainly right to cry foul. It should have sought an injunction first. Example: Arisman threatened to destroy mosques, government buildings, and "all institutions you hold sacred" ... a clip widely seen on youtube, without subtitles. Without subtitles, it looks like "liberty, equality, fraternity".


-- the army hasn't been shooting women and children ... or indeed anyone at all, except in self-defense. Otherwise this would all be over, wouldn't it? It's simple for a big army to mow down 5,000 defenseless people.


-- since the government called the red shirts' bluff and allowed the deputy P.M. to report to the authorities to hear their accusations, the red leaders have been making ever-more fanciful demands. The idea of UN intervention is patently absurd. When Thaksin killed all those Muslims and alleged drug lords, human rights groups asked the UN to intervene. When the army took over the entire country, some asked the UN to intervene. The UN doesn't intervene in the internal affairs of sovereign countries except when requested to by the country itself or when the government has completely broken down.


-- Thailand hasn't had an unbreachable gulf between rich and poor for at least 20 years. These conflicts are about the rise of the middle class, not the war between the aristocrats and the proletariat.


-- Abhisit, with his thoroughly western and somewhat liberal background, shares the values of the west and is in fact more likely to bring about the social revolution needed by Thailand's agrarian poor than any previous leader. He is, in fact, pretty red, while Thaksin, in his autocratic style of leadership, is in a way pretty yellow. Simplistic portrayals do not help anyone to understand anything.


-- the only people who do not seem to care about the reds' actual grievances are their own leaders, who are basically making everyone risk their lives to see if they can get bail.


-- the King has said all that he is constitutionally able to say when he spoke to the supreme court justices and urged them to do their duty. The western press never seem to realize that the Thai monarchy is constitutionally on the European model ... not, say, the Saudi model. The king REIGNS ... he doesn't "rule". This is a democracy. The king is supposed to symbolize all the people, not a special interest group.

http://www.somtow.org/2010/05/dont-b...an-rivers.html

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

- Thaksin was democratically elected, but became increasingly undemocratic, and the country gradually devolved from a nation where oligarchs skimmed off the top to a kleptocracy of one. During his watch, thousands of people were summarily executed in the South of Thailand and in a bizarre "war on drugs" in which body count was considered a marker of success.

Ok, killing drug peddlers is worst than killing journalists. More likely, he jeopardized the drug business of the mafia, that's why they took him down?

One can come up with 1000 reasons, but it won't cover up the real reason - it's all about the booty.

If the mafia can take down an elected government, there are serious implications that will spread beyond the borders of Thailand. China will have another reason to clamp down on pro-democracy movements in Hong Kong. Singapore will be able to use the chaos in Bangkok to justify its ban on any outdoor political activity not authorized by the government.

I see all this as part of the falling influence of the West in the Asia Pacific region. In future, when power shifts to the east once China becomes an economic superpower, these governments will deal with the West using the same methods they deal with their own people, one should expect nothing less.

[Slimprofits]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Are governments all over the world watching and learning?

Personally, I wonder if Thailand is become 'sinolized', coming under the influence of China as the western democracy concept recedes with the falling influence of the US in South East Asia.

did you write this or copy and paste it?

re-published itulip threads?

http://www.fuckbankers.com/?p=133177

http://www.gulagblog.com/?p=133177

[Thailandnotes]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

I am an American. My wife is American. We have lived most of the last twenty years in Thailand. We know many foreigners married to Thais. (Before you jump to conclusions, many of our friends are foreign women married to Thai men.) This article passes all the tests. It is accurate, and an excellent starting point for anyone trying to figure out what is going on in Thailand.

The political situation here is extremely complex. It's that simple.

http://www.somtow.org/2010/05/dont-b...an-rivers.html

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

http://www.somtow.org/2010/05/dont-b...an-rivers.html

broken link?

did you write this or copy and paste it?

re-published itulip threads?

http://www.fuckbankers.com/?p=133177

http://www.gulagblog.com/?p=133177

iTulip got copied.

[FRED]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

broken link?

iTulip got copied.

Welcome to plagiarnet. Happens frequently. Many bloggers conclude: Why write original material when they can copypasta and get traffic without the effort of doing their own work? Only one in 100 readers can tell the difference.

Hi, fuckbankers.com!

Hi, gulagblog.com!

You are now banned from iTulip.com. Thanks for playing.

[Slimprofits]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Welcome to plagiarnet. Happens frequently. Many bloggers conclude: Why write original material when they can copypasta and get traffic without the effort of doing their own work? Only one in 100 readers can tell the difference.

Hi, fuckbankers.com!

Hi, gulagblog.com!

You are now banned from iTulip.com. Thanks for playing.

in case you are curious, I found those links using google to search for touchring's thread

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

broken link?

Here's the correct link: Somtow's World: Don't Blame Dan Rivers.

[touchring]

Re: Thailand setting new trend for sheeple control? Sniping them and the reporters filming the act?

Here's the correct link: Somtow's World: Don't Blame Dan Rivers.

I suppose that for people that lived in Thailand, who is right will depend on which side you live with.

If you lived in the modernity of Bangkok, have developed ties with the Bangkok community, naturally, you would blame Thaksin for inciting the "weak minded" and brutish peasants from the north that have forgotten their place - on the fields.

If you lived in some small shanty town or even a village in the north, you are more likely to side with the peasants.

Of course in real life, there is no black and white. There are criminal elements on both sides, some in the red camp, taking the opportunity of chaos to plunder.

Yesterday, I watched Robin Hood. In the show Russell Crowe advocated the Magna Carta, freedom charter, and as a result became popular. The English King John became jealous and ordered for his arrest.

Robin Hood in real life might really be the bandit who slaughtered and killed people but who cares, in those days, who doesn't kill and who isn't corrupted? Today, Robin Hood is remembered as the hero who stood up against English feudalism and brought about change.