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  • A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...86elW580dq2V5w

    Still think that prices in Vancouver are high? You ain't seen nothing yet.

    4650 sq ft. Hardly enough space even to put a detach house, let alone a pool.

    According to Forbes, there's no bubble - http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/11/chi...ging-rein.html

    Hong Kong luxury house fetches near-record price
    (AFP) – Mar 17, 2010


    HONG KONG — A Hong Kong listed company said Wednesday it will buy a luxury house for a near-record price in the city, a month after the government introduced measures to cool the city's property market.


    Sino-tech International Holdings, an electronics components maker, said it has agreed to buy the 4,650 square foot property on the Peak for 280 million Hong Kong dollars (35.90 million US), or 60,215 dollars per square foot, as an investment.


    The per-square-foot price is among the highest paid for a property in the southern Chinese city, after a duplex was sold by Henderson Land Development in October for an Asian record of 71,280 dollars per square foot.


    The Peak property is one of the 22 houses in the luxurious Severn 8 development on Severn Road, which was named by online analysis group The Wealth Bulletin as one of the 10 most expensive streets in the world last year.
    Also on the list were Chemin de Saint-Hospice in the South of France, Fifth Avenue in New York, and Kensington Palace Gardens in London.


    The near-record price was reached despite a series of measures the government introduced in February to cool the white-hot property market, such as increasing residential land supply and stamp duty for luxury flats.
    John Tsang, the city's financial secretary, said the government was worried that the property frenzy, supported by strong demand from rich mainland buyers and a big inflow of funds, would create a bubble and affect the stability of the financial system.


    Prices of some luxury flats returned to the peaks of the 1997 property boom in January, Tsang said.


    Stimulus measures by governments around the world have boosted liquidity, which has lead to large fund inflows into Asia.


    China has also seen soaring property prices, with values rising at their fastest pace in 17 months in December after Beijing encouraged tax breaks, loans and lower downpayment requirements to boost the sector during the slump.
    Last edited by touchring; April 09, 2010, 01:40 PM.

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    Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

    Originally posted by touchring View Post
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...86elW580dq2V5w

    Still think that prices in Vancouver are high? You ain't seen nothing yet.

    4650 sq ft. Hardly enough space even to put a detach house, let alone a pool.

    According to Forbes, there's no bubble - http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/11/chi...ging-rein.html

    That's crazy !

    Btw, I think it has to be ~7600 USD/sq foot and not 76,000 !

    Recently, a flat in Bombay sold for ~2200/sq foot...which is a record.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/5764759.cms

    MUMBAI: The city once again seems to have broken a national record in property [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]transactions[/color][/color]
    , with a duplex in the prime Samudra Mahal building at Worli fetching in excess of Rs 36 crore in an auction on Monday.

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      Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

      Originally posted by vdhulla View Post
      That's crazy !

      Btw, I think it has to be ~7600 USD/sq foot and not 76,000 !

      Recently, a flat in Bombay sold for ~2200/sq foot...which is a record.

      http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/5764759.cms

      MUMBAI: The city once again seems to have broken a national record in property [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]transactions[/color][/color]
      , with a duplex in the prime Samudra Mahal building at Worli fetching in excess of Rs 36 crore in an auction on Monday.

      I think it refers to HK dollars.

      Detached prices in Singapore are upwards of $1000 a square foot. I read that in Shanghai they are about $500 to $1500 a square foot.

      The prices in HK are usually double or triple other cities. This one probably cost $7000 because of its usual location and view.

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        Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

        Originally posted by vdhulla View Post
        That's crazy !

        Btw, I think it has to be ~7600 USD/sq foot and not 76,000 !

        Recently, a flat in Bombay sold for ~2200/sq foot...which is a record.

        http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...ow/5764759.cms

        MUMBAI: The city once again seems to have broken a national record in property [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]transactions[/color][/color]
        , with a duplex in the prime Samudra Mahal building at Worli fetching in excess of Rs 36 crore in an auction on Monday.

        I think it refers to HK dollars.

        Detached prices in Singapore are upwards of $1000 a square foot. I read that in Shanghai they are about $500 to $1500 a square feet.

        The prices in HK should be double or triple of those in Singapore, so the average 4500 sq foot detached should fetch around $11 million. This one cost $35M probably because of its unusual location and view.
        Last edited by touchring; April 09, 2010, 02:12 PM.

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          Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

          Housing in a top global center of commerce like Hong Kong (or certain sections of Manhattan, London and Tokyo) seem qualitatively different than Vancouver or Toronto. In the one, homes are mostly owned by jet-set tycoons or multinational corporations as a convenient residence for key staff near the office. In the other, common wage earners must pay for the house with the paychecks from a married couple of unremarkable wealth. It may not make sense to compare them.

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            Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

            How about houses in Shanghai? Where the average income is $6000 a year. A small house 10 miles from the city will cost $2M? Would that make sense?

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              Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

              Originally posted by touchring View Post
              How about houses in Shanghai? Where the average income is $6000 a year. A small house 10 miles from the city will cost $2M? Would that make sense?

              Not unless there were 20 income earners residing in that house. Is $2M the average price of a home in Shanghai? What about median income and median home price -- what sq. footage?

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                Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                Originally posted by touchring View Post
                How about houses in Shanghai? Where the average income is $6000 a year. A small house 10 miles from the city will cost $2M? Would that make sense?
                How do people there buy a house that costs every penny of wages for more than 300 years?

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                  Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                  Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                  How do people there buy a house that costs every penny of wages for more than 300 years?

                  I've been to Shanghai only once on a biz trip, the metro is huge 2700 sq miles according to wikipedia, but i don't remember seeing a lot of houses. most ppl live in apartments. Away from the city center, there is a lot of farmland where you can see poor people living in dilapidated huts, with rice fields around them, and one mile away you will see million dollar houses. The contrast is there, you see people living a subsistence farming life, probably earning $2 a day and a mile away, there are million dollar villas.

                  I don't know, but I suppose that most of the land is owned by the government and they are worth nothing rice fields land, probably a couple thousand dollars per acre until converted to villa land by the authorities and sold for a very high price to private buyers.

                  Also, a note that Chinese land is only 70 years lease. So you're talking about 300 years wage for a land that is yours for only 70 years.

                  No bubble?
                  Last edited by touchring; April 09, 2010, 03:25 PM.

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                    Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                    Sino-tech International Holdings, an electronics components maker, said it has agreed to buy the 4,650 square foot property on the Peak for 280 million Hong Kong dollars (35.90 million US), or 60,215 dollars per square foot, as an investment.


                    Who runs this company? Is there no better use for company money?

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                    • #11
                      Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                      Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
                      Sino-tech International Holdings, an electronics components maker, said it has agreed to buy the 4,650 square foot property on the Peak for 280 million Hong Kong dollars (35.90 million US), or 60,215 dollars per square foot, as an investment.


                      Who runs this company? Is there no better use for company money?

                      http://www.google.com/finance?q=HKG:0724

                      this is a loss making company, the balance sheet shows a goodwill of 700M HK Dollar.

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                      • #12
                        Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                        Originally posted by touchring View Post
                        http://www.google.com/finance?q=HKG:0724

                        this is a loss making company, the balance sheet shows a goodwill of 700M HK Dollar.

                        Well than this shrewd real estate move should help.

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                        • #13
                          Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                          Originally posted by touchring View Post
                          How about houses in Shanghai? Where the average income is $6000 a year. A small house 10 miles from the city will cost $2M? Would that make sense?
                          Haha, com'on, where you get those numbers from?

                          You can get a small house within *///edit middle circles for 200-300k US$, it's gonna be a bad, nasty one, but that's still a house.
                          10 miles from the downtown area, a luxurious suburbian villa, in a gated compound, with pool, clubhouse, sometimes golf ranch, 24/7 security and mantainance team will cost 2 Million, or can cost up to 20-25 Million US$,
                          they area tens of thousands of square feet large though.
                          They are by far, not the average house here.

                          Downtown "inner circle" median per sqm right now 43120
                          middle circle (highways basically enclose what is called city center, they go in circles, and define real estate areas(just 3-9 miles from downtown) 18027,

                          outer circle
                          9662 Rmb per square meter, or roughly 1400 US$ so that's like 130$ us per sqft.
                          Last edited by nicmakaveli; April 10, 2010, 08:38 AM. Reason: inner circle, middle circle change

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                          • #14
                            Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                            Originally posted by cjppjc View Post


                            Who runs this company?
                            probably the guy who's going to live in the place ;)

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                              Re: A Hong Kong 4,650 square foot detach fetches 35.90 million US

                              Originally posted by nicmakaveli View Post
                              outer circle
                              9662 Rmb per square meter, or roughly 1400 US$ so that's like 130$ us per sqft.

                              10000 RMB, are you sure you can get a house for that price? I'm not talking about apartment.

                              http://www.newportchina.com/property...eywordss=&cz=8

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