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    State and Local Budget Crisis Black Swan – California paying out $100 Million per Day in Unemployment Insurance. Detroit’s Shrinking Population Crushes Revenues. The Employment Situation at a Micro Level.

    One stunning statistic that hit this week regards California’s unemployment insurance claims being paid out. California is paying out some $100 million per day in unemployment benefits. I’m not sure if I would call it a “benefit” but more as a buffer to get by. In reality if we really want to get a pulse on what Americans are facing in terms of the recession unemployment claims and benefits are a good place to start. The unemployment rate as we all know can be fudged in many ways. If you work 10 hours at Wal-Mart but want full-time work then you are counted as employed in terms of the headline rate. This isn’t a big deal when a small part of the country is working part-time for economic reasons but this group is enormous (9 million to be exact). The headline rate is 9.7 percent but add in this group and we are up to 16.9 percent. And people seeking unemployment rarely fudge numbers because they need the money and they have to report their status every two weeks to continue receiving claims.

    If we look at California for example, the numbers show anything but a recovery:


    Source: California EDD

    Even with 99 weeks of unemployment insurance between federal and state, extensions, and other emergency support programs we have a sizeable number of people reaching the end of their rope. This shows how pervasive and deep this economic crisis has hit average Americans. I tend to look at unemployment insurance payouts as a good measure to see how quickly the economy actually recovers. After all, if after two weeks you find a job, you would expect that less would be coming out of the fund when it comes to renewing your benefits. So it is very sensitive to market changes in the employment market. We have so many market indicators from consumer confidence to home sales but in terms of employment, I’d be following the unemployment insurance payouts very closely to see when things actually take a turn.

    And one unique aspect (there are many) about this recession is the length of time people have been out of work:



    Of the 15 million officially unemployed people, nearly 7 million have been unemployed for 27 weeks or more. The problem when people remain without work this long is that they typically will be shifting into other industries. Think of a mortgage broker that now needs to retool for another industry that is hiring (i.e., health care). Congress is currently debating whether to extend unemployment benefits but the fact that we are even having this debate with 99 weeks of unemployment insurance in some states is troubling in itself.

    In many places like Los Angeles and Detroit, you are seeing massive deficits in their budget but for different reasons. California relied heavily on the housing bubble. States that really built an entire tax collecting expectation around real estate are being harmed deeply:
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    Re: California paying out $100 Million per Day in Unemployment

    I'll summarize it really quick:

    Paying people not to work


    I understand there was and is still a crisis of some sort, but this is ridiculous. 99 weeks to sit on your ass.

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      Re: California paying out $100 Million per Day in Unemployment

      Originally posted by chr5648 View Post
      I'll summarize it really quick:

      Paying people not to work


      I understand there was and is still a crisis of some sort, but this is ridiculous. 99 weeks to sit on your ass.
      You're exactly right. I have a brother who has been on unemployment for nearly 2 years. He judges every potential job as, "How much more would I be making than I make now on unemployment?" So a $12/hr job that would help him contribute to society and feed his kids is poo-pooed because it only nets him $100/week over the dole.

      I do not discount the fact that there are some out there with special situations who simply can't find work. But this recession seems to have provided jobs for those willing to swallow their pride and roll up their sleeves, and also provided a fantastic excuse for the laziest among us.

      I am proud of my friends who are doing whatever it takes to make ends meet. A 50 year-old TV writer temping, a 40 year-old builder parking cars, and many more who choose underemployment rather than the government teat.

      I personally think you should have to spend 40 hours a week "working" in order to collect unemployment. This could include free job training, resume preparation help, job interviews, volunteer work, and manual labor. A few days a week painting a school or picking up litter would certainly motivate me to find a job better than the unemployment line. Right now, my lazy brother only has to go online once a week and click a box that says he has diligently looked for work. Then a check promptly shows up in the mail. A slap in the face to all working people.

      -Jimmy

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        Re: California paying out $100 Million per Day in Unemployment

        Originally posted by jimmygu3 View Post
        You're exactly right. I have a brother who has been on unemployment for nearly 2 years. He judges every potential job as, "How much more would I be making than I make now on unemployment?" So a $12/hr job that would help him contribute to society and feed his kids is poo-pooed because it only nets him $100/week over the dole.

        I do not discount the fact that there are some out there with special situations who simply can't find work. But this recession seems to have provided jobs for those willing to swallow their pride and roll up their sleeves, and also provided a fantastic excuse for the laziest among us.

        I am proud of my friends who are doing whatever it takes to make ends meet. A 50 year-old TV writer temping, a 40 year-old builder parking cars, and many more who choose underemployment rather than the government teat.

        I personally think you should have to spend 40 hours a week "working" in order to collect unemployment. This could include free job training, resume preparation help, job interviews, volunteer work, and manual labor. A few days a week painting a school or picking up litter would certainly motivate me to find a job better than the unemployment line. Right now, my lazy brother only has to go online once a week and click a box that says he has diligently looked for work. Then a check promptly shows up in the mail. A slap in the face to all working people.

        -Jimmy
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        I have a friend who talks about 'values', 'principles', and even 'conservatism' but he when he was unemployed he said it was the greatest time of his life, not having to work, going to the gym, relaxing, and what not, just collecting an unemployment check. He said he would do it again if the benefits didn't run out. This is a societal disease.


        I was unemployed for 3 months in 2008, I did not take unemployment benefits, too much for my pride, no way in hell am I going to live off the state, I rather starve than become a leech.

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