The Clueless Rebellion

[jtabeb]

Re: The Clueless Rebellion

I doubt it. Why let a little thing like that stop liberal snobs for expressing their disdain for non-left wing populism.

When are the people going to rise up agains the oligarchs and FIRE elites?!! Oh, wait a minute, those are the wrong kind of people. They can't spell and probably can't tell the difference between arugula and swiss chard.

Anyone who's out there in person and participating in a demonstration to "END THE FED!" is a FRIEND of mine.

Can you say "KILL the MESSAGE", Attack the person!

Yeah, If anyone is out there with Racist, Homophobic, Anti-immigrant slogans, sure I fully agree THEY ROT. (And I am SURE there are those types out there)

Anti-Bank Bailout?
Anti-Fed?
Anti-Bernanke?
Anti-Summers?
Anti-Geithner?
Anti-Blankfein?

Not just yes, but HELL YES!

[Starving Steve]

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If the hillbillies in the American Heartland would have been required to become fluent in a second language such as Spanish, they would have known the difference between the personal-possessive pronoun our in their native English and the plural verb form of is ( are ) in English. It is their English-only K-12 public education in the American Heartland that has encouraged this kind of language mistake, not to mention their demonstrative lack of critical thinking in U.S. politics.

Languages can not be taught in isolation from one another, but this is still not accepted in the U.S where people still, to this day, believe in English-only. The result is this kind of English fluency, even after K-12 public education.

[leegs]

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Anyone who's out there in person and participating in a demonstration to "END THE FED!" is a FRIEND of mine.

Can you say "KILL the MESSAGE", Attack the person!

Yeah, If anyone is out there with Racist, Homophobic, Anti-immigrant slogans, sure I fully agree THEY ROT. (And I am SURE there are those types out there)

Anti-Bank Bailout?
Anti-Fed?
Anti-Bernanke?
Anti-Summers?
Anti-Geithner?
Anti-Blankfein?

Not just yes, but HELL YES!

What if they are anti-fed, etc. AND are racist, homophobic, anti-immigrant, etc.

And further what if their anti-FED, anti-Geithner, etc. expressions are just convenient rationalizations to complain about the government as they express their fear and anger?

I think thats the real issue - the tea partiers and the even less-attractive peripheral groups are IMO primarily motivated by fear and anger and hate. Regardless of the other well-founded opinions to which they may subscribe, I don't see how any movement based primarily on these basic negative emotions can be helpful.

[jacobdcoates]

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fear, anger, and hate combined together usually make for very dangerous things. Hopefully they are dumber than the signs make them out to be, otherwise the might be stupid and start doing something about their misplaced fear, anger, and hate.

[Thailandnotes]

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Why avoid Facebook? I can't speak for Isa, but I hope you can visit this link: http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/02/0082805 -- I'm a subscriber so I'm not sure if it's free or not.

You can read that article here:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/20...fdom-of-crowds

[Master Shake]

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Anyone who's out there in person and participating in a demonstration to "END THE FED!" is a FRIEND of mine.

Can you say "KILL the MESSAGE", Attack the person!

Yeah, If anyone is out there with Racist, Homophobic, Anti-immigrant slogans, sure I fully agree THEY ROT. (And I am SURE there are those types out there)

Anti-Bank Bailout?
Anti-Fed?
Anti-Bernanke?
Anti-Summers?
Anti-Geithner?
Anti-Blankfein?

Not just yes, but HELL YES!

Why do you equate being anti-immigrant with racism and "homophobia"?

[Master Shake]

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If the hillbillies in the American Heartland would have been required to become fluent in a second language such as Spanish, they would have known the difference between the personal-possessive pronoun our in their native English and the plural verb form of is ( are ) in English. It is their English-only K-12 public education in the American Heartland that has encouraged this kind of language mistake, not to mention their demonstrative lack of critical thinking in U.S. politics.

Languages can not be taught in isolation from one another, but this is still not accepted in the U.S where people still, to this day, believe in English-only. The result is this kind of English fluency, even after K-12 public education.

Steve, you did read jtabeb's photoshop comment, right?

[jtabeb]

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Regardless of the other well-founded opinions to which they may subscribe, I don't see how any movement based primarily on these basic negative emotions can be helpful.

Wow, that's a new one. So your criterion to be a suitable protester is that you have to acceptable to EVERYONE?

Yeah, God Forbid we actually discuss the root causes of the issue, like, for instance, the Federal Reserve's use of the money supply as a weapon against the people of this country? You know, the very same people that this so-called institution is supposed to serve.

Yeah, that would be a real shame alright.

Tell you what, let's throw you and another human in a cage for 10 days, and see who get's eaten first. Sound good?

No?

Well GUESS WHAT.

The banks are one person, the people of this country are another, and GUESS WHO IS GETTING EATEN?

People get UGLY when they have everything taken away from them, including their dignity.

You should go visit the West Bank or Gaza sometime. Funny how much them ragheads act just like them idiot tea-bonics folks, must share the same gene pool.

What a minute!

Them ragheads is dark, them tea-bonics folks is mostly white?

Hmm, think YOU might be able to figure out what they have in common?

Come-on, let's see if you can figure it out, shall we?

I'll give you ten-thousand chances okay?

And you'll need exactly ONE GUESS if you have half a damn brain in your whole skull.

It's a pity that you call yourself a human being, when you can so callously ignore the plight of another human being.

Silly, me.

You work for a bank, Don't you?

[jtabeb]

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Why do you equate being anti-immigrant with racism and "homophobia"?

I don't.

It's just they are all unacceptable standards of behavior.

I didn't say immigration policy, that's a perspective I guess, just one that I disagree with. I wouldn't be an American if my dad had not been allowed to immigrate. I'm first generation, first to go to college, first to join the air force, first to serve in combat over the skies of Iraq and Afghanistan, well you get the idea. My dad's immigration made those things possible, FOR ME.

Hating someone because they are an immigrant... Yeah, that's not okay in my book, or in any book I think.

I'm Muslim.

We got any Christians or Jews that can fact-check the above claim for me? (about the bible and the torah on immigrants)

[GRG55]

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I urge everyone to avoid Facebook at all costs.

I put Facebook in the same catagory as drinking, smoking cigars, Oreo cookies and Khudry dates...excellent in moderation, deadly if indulged in excess...;)

[I periodically drop in on the Facebook pages of my nieces and nephews to keep track of what's happening in our far flung family].

[Starving Steve]

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I might agree with "the clueless" in some of their rebellion, especially their rebellion against the central bank, paper money, Bernanke, Geithner, bail-out nation, and their rebellion against $65 billion-dollar Xmas bonuses for incompetent bankers. Nevertheless, why can't the tea-partiers in The Heartland speak and write correct English, especially since they have insisted upon American public education in English-only? Or can't I ask that question?

To me, their mis-spellings and their gross mis-use of written English tells a very telling story about them, their mono-culture (hillbilly) background, their English-only public school system, and maybe their Heartland region..... I'm just connecting the dots. :rolleyes:

[GRG55]

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I was looking at rings online, and one evening my girlfriend (now fiancee)....

Congratulations bpr!

[leegs]

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Wow, that's a new one. So your criterion to be a suitable protester is that you have to acceptable to EVERYONE?

Yeah, God Forbid we actually discuss the root causes of the issue, like, for instance, the Federal Reserve's use of the money supply as a weapon against the people of this country? You know, the very same people that this so-called institution is supposed to serve.

Yeah, that would be a real shame alright.

Tell you what, let's throw you and another human in a cage for 10 days, and see who get's eaten first. Sound good?

No?

Well GUESS WHAT.

The banks are one person, the people of this country are another, and GUESS WHO IS GETTING EATEN?

People get UGLY when they have everything taken away from them, including their dignity.

You should go visit the West Bank or Gaza sometime. Funny how much them ragheads act just like them idiot tea-bonics folks, must share the same gene pool.

What a minute!

Them ragheads is dark, them tea-bonics folks is mostly white?

Hmm, think YOU might be able to figure out what they have in common?

Come-on, let's see if you can figure it out, shall we?

I'll give you ten-thousand chances okay?

And you'll need exactly ONE GUESS if you have half a damn brain in your whole skull.

It's a pity that you call yourself a human being, when you can so callously ignore the plight of another human being.

Silly, me.

You work for a bank, Don't you?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I never implied anything about criteria for a suitable protester, or anything about 'acceptability' to anyone, much less EVERYONE.

How do you infer from my statement that I am ignoring, callously or otherwise, the plight of any human beings?

I can't even begin to get the rest of your drift about ragheads, cages, etc.

I largely, perhaps completely, agree with you about the FED, the banks, the oligarchy, etc.

My only point was to suggest that the solution to these issues is not likely to come from a movement that is motivated by primarily fear, and anger, with hefty side servings of hate. I don't think the fact that they have some talking points about the FED, etc. changes this. I don't even think it would matter if they understood these issues as well as EJ.

And I'm not a peace-and-love new-ager. I'm a practical guy who likes guns, kills animals, curses often and loudly, etc. etc.

[jtabeb]

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I might agree with "the clueless" in some of their rebellion, especially their rebellion against the central bank, paper money, Bernanke, Geithner, bail-out nation, and their rebellion against $65 billion-dollar Xmas bonuses for incompetent bankers. Nevertheless, why can't the tea-partiers in The Heartland speak and write correct English, especially since they have insisted upon American public education in English-only? Or can't I ask that question?

To me, their mis-spellings and their gross mis-use of written English tells a very telling story about them, their mono-culture background, and maybe their Heartland region. :rolleyes:

Hmm..

Vocab lesson for the day.

Google "Photochop"

(yes I'm sure there are real ones in there too, the point is, WHY ARE THERE FAKES?)

[jtabeb]

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How do you infer from my statement that I am ignoring, callously or otherwise, the plight of any human beings?

Umm, you typed on a keyboard perhaps?

Or Maybe you weren't ignoring, just not aware.

I don't know.

That point about that whole rant was maybe

1. seek common ground where there is some
2. know where people come from and why
3. judge not lest ye be judged
4. Treat people with respect, until they give you a reason to treat them with contempt, and that EVEN then, It's better for all of us, if you can still manage to treat them with respect.
STAND YOUR GROUND, esp. if it is an issue of integrity, but treat them with respect.

(Unless they work for the Fed, JPM, or Goldman, then it's GAME ON!)

Okay, I admit it. I try to take the moral high ground, but hey, I'm only human when it comes to Wall Street Bankers. What can I say?