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  • #16
    Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

    Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
    The last couple years is the first time I've noticed outright lying used broadly as a political tactic by prominant national figures and major news outlets.
    This is one reason that I completely stopped watching television news, and prefer to get my news "filtered" by online sources, primarily blogs, whom I have grown to trust. However, sometimes, this leads me to believe that I am succumbing to confirmation bias.
    I think EJ talked about this phenomenon in one of his articles, if i recall correctly, that the internet has grown into self-selected silos where people with similar views congregate together and discuss issues amongst themselves. Anybody with an opposing view is quickly shouted down. I am noticing a lot of the other blogs, whose comments I used to read, exhibiting this behavior.
    iTulip is one of the few places where this phenomenon is not that pervasive, but I see evidence of this over here as well, from time to time.

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    • #17
      Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

      Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
      The compare and contrast between Mr. Baeir's interview with President Bush and his interview with President Obama is instructive.

      Fox is a partisan political operation. That's very different than being biased.
      I've been watching FOX News because I couldn't take the others; now I'm choking on FOX.
      I didn't vote for Obama, and never will, but the people at FOX are complete fools if they think this interview helped the NeoCon agenda.

      BTW, how would you classify NBC? Is it "fair and balanced", or just another mutation of the Fourth Estate into a partisan political operation?

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      • #18
        Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

        All large media outlets have been corrupted by the institutions that they grew up around. This is, however, typically a corporate bias, not a "left or right" bias. This corporate bias grew organically -- simply because the media outlets that survived and grew over the last century were the ones that pleased and served their corporate overlords, who funneled them money.

        Fox has a corporate bias, but also a transparent political bias that is not readily apparent in most other major media conglomerates.

        But don't take my word for it:

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        • #19
          Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

          Originally posted by Raz View Post
          I've been watching FOX News because I couldn't take the others; now I'm choking on FOX.
          I didn't vote for Obama, and never will, but the people at FOX are complete fools if they think this interview helped the NeoCon agenda.

          BTW, how would you classify NBC? Is it "fair and balanced", or just another mutation of the Fourth Estate into a partisan political operation?
          NBC is biased in the same left-leaning way that almost all news orgs are biased. I forget who did the poll in the 90s, but something like 80-90% of people in the news industry held views that would be considered liberal.

          And, obviously, those views influence the stories that got reported and how they were presented.

          That's bias.

          FOX is in the business of explicitly supporting Republican policies and getting Republican's elected. And MSNBC has clearly adopted the first half of that equation on behalf of Democrats now as well (but IMO much less so the 2nd).

          That's partisan.

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          • #20
            Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

            Originally posted by Munger View Post
            But don't take my word for it:
            There is a long running debate between Peter Dale Scott and Chomsky (the key presenter of this video) on the nature of the deceit that afflicts our government and culture. A Google search for "Peter Dale Scott" "Deep Events" Chomsky will provide links to some recent comments by Scott on this difference of views.

            If I may summarize, Chomsky finds a deep structural divide between the powerful and the people, with the powerful acting in ways that are consistent and rational, albeit very harmful to the people. Scott finds conflict, cross purposes, and irrational behavior amongst the powerful.
            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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            • #21
              Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

              Originally posted by MulaMan View Post
              Beyond amazing. More proof of the anti-America fascist scum at Fox News.

              If this guy's "news" career does not end in the morning then Americans really are cowards. This guy needs his head kicked in by a group of Iraqi veterans at a minimum.

              http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/...22807#35922807
              I don't really like any of the news shows, they all seem to have a lean one way or the other. But your comments are stupid with a capital "S"

              Are you in some sort of mental place? On heavy Meds? Its ok to tell us. I think most of us will understand your posts better if you let us know MulaGirl.
              Last edited by rabot10; March 19, 2010, 06:40 PM.

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              • #22
                Re: Fox News Interviews President Obama

                Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                There is a long running debate between Peter Dale Scott and Chomsky (the key presenter of this video) on the nature of the deceit that afflicts our government and culture. A Google search for "Peter Dale Scott" "Deep Events" Chomsky will provide links to some recent comments by Scott on this difference of views.

                If I may summarize, Chomsky finds a deep structural divide between the powerful and the people, with the powerful acting in ways that are consistent and rational, albeit very harmful to the people. Scott finds conflict, cross purposes, and irrational behavior amongst the powerful.


                Scott mentions his problems with Chomsky




                Zwicker who now criticizes him for 911, really likes the movie Manufacturing Dissent.

                Last edited by D-Mack; March 19, 2010, 07:23 PM.

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