Gov't goes for a "two-fer" (suspends habeaus and posse in one bill)

[rabot10]

Re: Gov't goes for a "two-fer" (suspends habeaus and posse in one bill)

I wasn't a 9/11 Truther back then. I listened every day to Rush Limbaugh, and still have the fading bumper stickers for Bush, McCain and Palin on the back of my car. To this day, I still run a website that supports a group of rabid Bush, Cheney, Condi, and Rummy fans.

Thirty years before that, I was on the board of directors of Atlanta National Organization for Women (NOW), marching for the ERA and Right to Life, voting hard Democrat, and hoping we could kick Jesse Helms out of the Senate.

It's a good lesson in reminding oneself not to get too outraged over the asinine views of those with whom you disagree. Just recall when you held the same or even more outrageous views.

Cow you have had a very fun and interesting life I see. Well done and keep it up.

Life is a game, if there wern't things to overcome it wouldn't be any fun.

[MulaMan]

Re: Gov't goes for a "two-fer" (suspends habeaus and posse in one bill)

America's Secret ICE Castles

By Jacqueline Stevens

This article appeared in the January 4, 2010 edition of The Nation.

December 16, 2009



AVENGING ANGELS


"If you don't have enough evidence to charge someone criminally but you think he's illegal, we can make him disappear." Those chilling words were spoken by James Pendergraph, then executive director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement's (ICE) Office of State and Local Coordination, at a conference of police and sheriffs in August 2008. Also present was Amnesty International's Sarnata Reynolds, who wrote about the incident in the 2009 report "Jailed Without Justice" and said in an interview, "It was almost surreal being there, particularly being someone from an organization that has worked on disappearances for decades in other countries. I couldn't believe he would say it so boldly, as though it weren't anything wrong."
ICE agents regularly impersonate civilians--OSHA inspectors, insurance agents, religious workers--in order to arrest longtime US residents who have no criminal history. Jacqueline Stevens has reported a web-exclusive companion piece on ICE agents' ruse operations.

Pendergraph knew that ICE could disappear people, because he knew that in addition to the publicly listed field offices and detention sites, ICE is also confining people in 186 unlisted and unmarked subfield offices, many in suburban office parks or commercial spaces revealing no information about their ICE tenants--nary a sign, a marked car or even a US flag. (Presumably there is a flag at the Veterans Affairs Complex in Castle Point, New York, but no one would associate it with the Criminal Alien Program ICE is running out of Building 7.) Designed for confining individuals in transit, with no beds or showers, subfield offices are not subject to ICE Detention Standards. The subfield office network was mentioned in an October report by Dora Schriro, then special adviser to Janet Napolitano, secretary of Homeland Security, but no locations were provided.

Yes America needs to get over it's "privacy" concerns and issue proper citizenship cards with biometrics to all citizens. Plus have a easy to use national database for any official to verify citizenship. Would be very easy to implement.

Then draw a hard line in the sand between illegal aliens and citizens giving local police the ability to arrest those illegally in America and those employers that employ them.

You would not need deport the 10-20 million people in America illegally because most of them would find their own ways home if the laws were enforced properly so that public services and employment services where 80%-90% cut-off from them.

I'm a liberal and these "humanitarian" type reports supporting illegal aliens in America are disgusting in the same way that teachers unions run TV ads with young kids in classrooms (class size will get bigger, blah blah) in an effort to scare taxpayers to vote for union pay increases.

[Serge_Tomiko]

Re: Gov't goes for a "two-fer" (suspends habeaus and posse in one bill)

Yes America needs to get over it's "privacy" concerns and issue proper citizenship cards with biometrics to all citizens. Plus have a easy to use national database for any official to verify citizenship. Would be very easy to implement.

MulaMan, you've always sort of fallen into the crazy liberal camp in my eyes - but truly, do you really honestly think something like this will ever be implemented?

We all know who the citizens are, just like we know who commits most crime and makes our cities unlivable hellholes from which the middle class feverishly slaves away to escape.

Implementing this system will only bring the revolution sooner rather than later.