Non-Revolution has Begun

[Glenn Black]

Schaeffer Cox from Alaska has over 3,500 citizens in a State Militia, a Liberty Bell network who will immediately come to the aid of anyone who is having their rights attacked/infringed, and has formed a People's Common Law Court.

Listen carefully to what he explains to a group in Montana about what he has done for himself and fellow citizens in Alaska, based on the common law principles:

• Respect everybody else's rights and property
• Do all that you have agreed to do

The existing government is pushing normal citizens to build a culture of self-control and self-reliance

Government Agencies & Bureaus (eg. EPA, FCC, IRS, ATF, etc.) are a violation of US constitution, as they make the rules, implement them, and judge guilt to their rules that have the force of statute; all 3 independent branches of government combined into one group.

Right & wrong must be placed above legal and illegal.

Must have a cause above self-preservation, affluency, and personal peace (the mistakes of the me-first generations who don't want to get involved, no matter what; they wrongly choose ignorance over duty and responsibility).

Schaeffer's recommendations:

1. Sign the declaration
2. Set up a Liberty Bell System (automatic phone alert system)
3. Organize a Militia
4. Get a Common Law Court
5. Discover your Leaders

No need to attack nor destroy the current government of tyranny, it will destroy itself soon enough.

Rather than being consumed by anger & hate, you can proceed by what you belief and what you love (doing what's right, and liberty).

Government doesn't operate by rule of law, they operate by rule of force.

The 5 steps above will be ready to fill the vacuum when the current government collapses under its own errors.

Governments cycle through the following states:

1. Prosperity
2. Apathy
3. Tyranny (strategic liaison to trap personal power & wealth)
4. Oppression
5. Destruction (of systems & individuals by gov't & henchmen, kill the golden goose, just starting into this phase in last 2 years)
6. Repentance (give up mis-guided values of past, see the right path forward)
7. Courage
8. Rebellion
9. Back to Step #1

Forget teabags, get on board today.

[MulaMan]

Re: Non-Revolution has Begun

I did predict long ago that these militia redneck retards would start up again once Republicans lost the white house.

Most of these people hide behind the Bible or wave flags to cover the simple fact they are religious and racial bigots.

Nothing pro American or patriotic going on here. Just the same old white trailer trash folks that watch Glenn Beck.

http://www.sullivan-county.com/news/mine/militia.htm

[Glenn Black]

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I used to think as you do and state here. I also assume that you didn't watch any or all of the video, as it doesn't seem to fit your assumptions. May I suggest you watch the video, then re-consider your assumptions & premature judgement. If you still hold your same opinion, fair enough, we differ.

I think this is different than you assume.

[Jeff]

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Okay, when some idiot tries to tell people that he doesn't understand the legal basis of what he's talking about and considers the authority of the US Federal government to do anything fraudulent, because it is based on the government (presumably) saying, "Because I say so", then I for one am pissed off that I wasted nine minutes of my life listening to this.

We "feel" that it isn't right? We "know in our hearts" that things are wrong?

The Know Nothing Party had nothing on this bonehead. Another angry guy with an axe to grind and a penchant for fantasy. When people insist on government services and refuse to pay taxes, then fiat currency create hazardous situations.

Duh.

[flintlock]

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Maybe I am just being cynical, but that guy gave me a vibe that he was a little skeevy just with his introduction. Perhaps he was nervous, but he reminded me of a bad insurance salesman trying to sell me life insurance. He hemmed and hawed a little too long before making his pitch. And he looks about 17 years old. :eek: Like the hat though. Gave a little touch of Michael Collins to the event. A least they aren't using us as cannon fodder on the Somme.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Maybe I am just being cynical, but that guy gave me a vibe that he was a little skeevy ...

Yeah, I tend to agree (whatever "skeevy" means ;)).

This just in from the Fairbanks Daily News Miner:

Second Amendment Task Force leader Schaeffer Cox accepts plea deal, gets suspended sentence

by Chris Freiberg / cfreiberg@newsminer.com

FAIRBANKS — The leader of the local Second Amendment Task Force and founder of a state militia has received a suspended sentence after accepting a plea deal.

Schaeffer Cox, 26, pleaded guilty Friday to a reduced charge of reckless endangerment, a misdemeanor, as part of a plea agreement. He was originally charged with second-degree assault, a felony.

Cox, who has no prior criminal record, was placed on probation for two years and received a one-month suspended sentence. He will also have to attend classes in alternatives to violence.

Cox’s wife told Alaska State Troopers that the couple and their young son were on their way to Anchorage last week when they began to argue. The argument escalated, and Cox reportedly punched and choked the woman when she threatened to leave him.

He surrendered to troopers Monday, and his wife posted his $3,500 bail the same day.

More at: http://newsminer.com/view/full_story...ended-sentence

[Slimprofits]

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A comment attached to the article TPC posted.

might be the best one yet in newspaper .com history

I think the high point in my reading entertainment will be when the weather report in the upper right-hand corner of the main page is designed to permit comments so I can watch as the Republicrats and Demopublicans, (aka, the Neo-Cons and Neo-Liberals) might then be able to debate exactly -who- is responsible for the weather, and who has greater right to define good weather vs. bad...

[Slimprofits]

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Schaeffer Cox from Alaska has over 3,500 citizens in a State Militia, a Liberty Bell network who will immediately come to the aid of anyone who is having their rights attacked/infringed, and has formed a People's Common Law Court.

Has the network been mobilized and if so for what actions?

[Glenn Black]

Re: Non-Revolution has Begun

Okay, when some idiot tries to tell people that he doesn't understand the legal basis of what he's talking about and considers the authority of the US Federal government to do anything fraudulent, because it is based on the government (presumably) saying, "Because I say so", then I for one am pissed off that I wasted nine minutes of my life listening to this.

We "feel" that it isn't right? We "know in our hearts" that things are wrong?

The Know Nothing Party had nothing on this bonehead. Another angry guy with an axe to grind and a penchant for fantasy. When people insist on government services and refuse to pay taxes, then fiat currency create hazardous situations.

Duh.

On numerous points in the video, he quoted the Bill of Rights from lengthy passages, word for word. It seems he knows more than most in that area. I don't think he was speaking of himself when he made the statements to which you referred. To me, he appeared to be trying to relate and mouth the words he thought some in the audience may be thinking.

I don't remember hearing him refuse to pay taxes, or avoid taxes. Did I miss that, or is that your assumption? It appears they have set up an additional system at the group's expense (1 oz. of silver per hour per each of 12 jurors isn't cheap). It seemed in addition to everything else they are paying to the State/Fed.

[Glenn Black]

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Yeah, I tend to agree (whatever "skeevy" means ;)).

This just in from the Fairbanks Daily News Miner:
More at: http://newsminer.com/view/full_story...ended-sentence

I found that news item as well after I had made the original post. I was quite disappointed to hear this news. At least he plead guilty. To me, he has killed a huge piece of momentum that he had established from his video. Most will dismiss him and his movement as redneck yahoos who must be dismissed.

[Mn_Mark]

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I found that news item as well after I had made the original post. I was quite disappointed to hear this news. At least he plead guilty. To me, he has killed a huge piece of momentum that he had established from his video.

Don't get discouraged. This kind of grass-roots organizational development in the pursuit of liberty and property rights is something new to Americans. Throughout the 20th century, and especially after the 1960s, traditional liberty-loving Americans have been under cultural attack by a 'progressive' leftist assault on many fronts. We never had to organize grass-roots resistance like this before because we were solidly the bedrock of American society and we controlled the society. "Activist" organizations were almost always left-wing organizations because they were the fringe and had no institutional power and had no alternative except to organize like that at the grassroots level.

But with the ascension of the most left-wing President in history, and with the 'progressive' leftists firmly in control of the congressional leadership, we who love liberty and property rights are under assault in a way we've simply never seen before. The FDR and Johnson administrations were left-wing, but they still shared the common American cultural assumptions and values. Obama and his supporters don't. They don't see anything special about America, they don't think it's any better place than anywhere else, and they want to see it humbled (witness Obama's eagerness to bow to foreign leaders, unless they're European) and controlled by an transnational progressive agenda of wealth transfer to the Third World, submission to international treaties on 'global warming', the International Criminal Court, and so on. Their heroes are Che Guevara and Huga Chavez. Their worldview is fundamentally alien to America and what it has always stood for, and traditional America - the America of individual liberty, freedom, property rights, and free markets - is under attack.

So we're new at this organizing business. We don't have the cynicism and corruption of an ACORN. We're used to going peacefully about our businesses, working at our jobs, raising our children, contributing to our communities, not shouting over bullhorns and organizing. So those among us who are roused to take action, like the young man in the video, are going to make mistakes. We're learning.

Nevertheless, I like our chances. We're the productive ones. We're the moral ones - and I don't mean that in a religious sense, but in the sense of respecting other people's property and right to be left alone. We build, we don't tear down. We don't throw rocks through windows or turn over cars when we gather to be heard. We're the ones with savings and we tend to be the ones with families whose interests we are devoted to. We tend to provide our children with a better upbringing, valuing traditional two-parent families over single motherhood, and discipline and responsibility over entitlement. It's going to be hard, but I'll take our chances against a bunch of angry Chavez-lovers any day. They've never really seen us aroused and motivated. We've never really had to be before.

[bcassill]

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Don't get discouraged. This kind of grass-roots organizational development in the pursuit of liberty and property rights is something new to Americans. Throughout the 20th century, and especially after the 1960s, traditional liberty-loving Americans have been under cultural attack by a 'progressive' leftist assault on many fronts. We never had to organize grass-roots resistance like this before because we were solidly the bedrock of American society and we controlled the society. "Activist" organizations were almost always left-wing organizations because they were the fringe and had no institutional power and had no alternative except to organize like that at the grassroots level.

But with the ascension of the most left-wing President in history, and with the 'progressive' leftists firmly in control of the congressional leadership, we who love liberty and property rights are under assault in a way we've simply never seen before. The FDR and Johnson administrations were left-wing, but they still shared the common American cultural assumptions and values. Obama and his supporters don't. They don't see anything special about America, they don't think it's any better place than anywhere else, and they want to see it humbled (witness Obama's eagerness to bow to foreign leaders, unless they're European) and controlled by an transnational progressive agenda of wealth transfer to the Third World, submission to international treaties on 'global warming', the International Criminal Court, and so on. Their heroes are Che Guevara and Huga Chavez. Their worldview is fundamentally alien to America and what it has always stood for, and traditional America - the America of individual liberty, freedom, property rights, and free markets - is under attack.

So we're new at this organizing business. We don't have the cynicism and corruption of an ACORN. We're used to going peacefully about our businesses, working at our jobs, raising our children, contributing to our communities, not shouting over bullhorns and organizing. So those among us who are roused to take action, like the young man in the video, are going to make mistakes. We're learning.

Nevertheless, I like our chances. We're the productive ones. We're the moral ones - and I don't mean that in a religious sense, but in the sense of respecting other people's property and right to be left alone. We build, we don't tear down. We don't throw rocks through windows or turn over cars when we gather to be heard. We're the ones with savings and we tend to be the ones with families whose interests we are devoted to. We tend to provide our children with a better upbringing, valuing traditional two-parent families over single motherhood, and discipline and responsibility over entitlement. It's going to be hard, but I'll take our chances against a bunch of angry Chavez-lovers any day. They've never really seen us aroused and motivated. We've never really had to be before.

You've got the story basically correct, but it's not the lefties giving away the wealth. It's both parties who've sold out the citizenry to large multi-national interests that do not see things in terms of national borders but only as markets. Think of the giveaways to Wall Street, military contractors like Xe and Dynacorp, prescription drug benefits at full price to large pharmaceuticals, and you begin to see a little of what is really going on. My suggestion is to read the following paper:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19328777/T...andante-Marcos

I read a lot of things from fairly diverse political tastes. Although this paper was written over 12 years ago by a Mexican revolutionary, it is almost prescient in describing the forces behind the things that have transpired in America over the last 10 years: off-shoring of key business infrastructure to India and China (e.g. IT and manufacturing), the push for cheap H1-B visa workers to replace "expensive" American workers, the destruction of the free market capitalism (e.g. Wall Street bailouts), and debt peonage for the citizenry.

This is not a right vs. left issue. It's an issue of theft: the transfer of as much wealth as possible from the masses to a select few. If you are a worker, a small business owner, an independent professional, or anyone else who makes a living through their hard work, skills, and aptitude, then you should be madder than hell.:mad: However, be careful or the government might lock you up as a threat to national security:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...refully/37116/:eek:

[ThePythonicCow]

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. My suggestion is to read the following paper:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19328777/T...andante-Marcos

Excellent. Thanks for reminding us to read this.

Yesterday, jpatter666 (in a post at http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...292#post152292) recommended the work of Subcomandante Marcos, but I had not got around to pursuing that until your reminder and link.

What Marcos describes sounds like world feudalism.

As European feudalism followed the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, so it seems that world feudalism is following the decline and fall of the Anglo Empire.

The economics of feudalism do not optimize the productivity or well being of the populace. Rather they optimize the wealth and power of the ruling elite. The average prosperity is lower, with most people treated like cattle.

This suggests an answer to a question that has long puzzled me. Once globalization had advanced sufficiently that the labor of only a few was required to produce the goods required by the many, and optimized sufficiently that always the lowest paid laborer available on the planet performed even that bit of remaining required human work, then how could capitalist markets survive? Who would be left to purchase all the goods if so few earned a decent wage?

The sad answer is (almost) no one. The point of such optimized global markets is not to maximize traditional capitalist measures of corporate success, such as volume and profit of business.

Only those still in charge, who own the property, labor, factories, mines and resources and who control the propaganda, political, monetary, military and legal systems which maintain that ownership power, are in a position to consume more than the minimum sustenance required to keep the necessary laborers alive. We now have vastly more productive capacity on this planet than is required to meet the needs and even desires of those few.

This must not come to be. It is time to resist.

A healthy natural ecology has a variety of flora and fauna, large and small, sharing the life cycles and sustenance of all. When some large unopposed beast arrives, eating what it will and trampling the rest, this may be good for the beast, but it causes grave damage to the other plants and animals.

A healthy human economy has substantial locality and diversity, with productive roles for most inhabitants. Trade with distant lands enhances well being and makes more widely available special resources and abilities, but it does not displace the life blood of the local economies.

A feudal economy serves well only the Lords of the Manor and their entourage. The serfs subsist only at the pleasure of their masters.

It is not the proper goal of human civilization to optimize the corporate power and CEO bonuses of a few large businesses, or of the closely related but shadowy master crooks.