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    http://www.physorg.com/news187187471.html

    Doctors treat millions of children with Ritalin every year to improve their ability to focus on tasks, but scientists now report that Ritalin also directly enhances the speed of learning.


    In animal research, the scientists showed for the first time that Ritalin boosts both of these cognitive abilities by increasing the activity of the neurotransmitter dopamine deep inside the brain. Neurotransmitters are the chemical messengers neurons use to communicate with each other. They release the molecule, which then docks onto receptors of other neurons. The research demonstrated that one type of dopamine receptor aids the ability to focus, and another type improves the learning itself.
    The scientists also established that Ritalin produces these effects by enhancing brain plasticity - strengthening communication between neurons where they meet at the synapse. Research in this field has accelerated as scientists have recognized that our brains can continue to form new connections - remain plastic - throughout life.
    "Since we now know that Ritalin improves behavior through two specific types of neurotransmitter receptors, the finding could help in the development of better targeted drugs, with fewer side effects, to increase focus and learning," said Antonello Bonci, MD, principal investigator at the Ernest Gallo Clinic and Research Center and professor of neurology at UCSF. The Gallo Center is affiliated with the UCSF Department of Neurology.
    Bonci is co-senior author of the paper, which will be published online in "Nature Neuroscience" on Sunday, March 7, 2010.
    Bonci and his colleagues showed that Ritalin's therapeutic action takes place in a brain region called the amygdala, an almond-shaped cluster of neurons known to be critical for learning and emotional memory.
    "We found that a dopamine receptor, known as the D2 receptor, controls the ability to stay focused on a task - the well-known benefit of Ritalin," said Patricia Janak, PhD, co-senior author on the paper. "But we also discovered that another dopamine receptor, D1, underlies learning efficiency."


    Janak is a principal investigator at the Gallo Center and a UCSF associate professor of neurology. Lead author of the paper is Kay M. Tye, PhD, a postdoctoral scientist at the Gallo Center when the research was carried out.
    The research assessed the ability of rats to learn that they could get a sugar water reward when they received a signal - a flash of light and a sound. The scientists compared the behavior of animals receiving Ritalin with those that did not receive it, and found those receiving Ritalin learned much better.
    However, they also found that if they blocked the dopamine D1 receptors with drugs, Ritalin was unable to enhance learning. And if they blocked D2 receptors, Ritalin failed to improve focus. The experiments established the distinct role of each of the dopamine receptors in enabling Ritalin to enhance cognitive performance.
    In addition, animals that performed better after Ritalin treatment showed enhanced synaptic plasticity in the amygdala. Enhanced plasticity is essentially increased efficiency of neural transmission. The researchers confirmed this by measuring electrical activity in neurons in the amygdala after Ritalin treatment.
    The research confirmed that learning and focus were enhanced when Ritalin was administered to animals in doses comparable to those used therapeutically in children.
    "Although Ritalin is so frequently prescribed, it induces many brain changes, making it difficult to identify which of those changes improve learning." said Kay Tye. "By identifying the brain mechanisms underlying Ritalin's behavioral enhancements, we can better understand the action of Ritalin as well as the properties governing brain plasticity."

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    Scientists are behind the curve. Every school child can tell you that they get better test scores when they take Ritalin while studying night before. This is why there is a black market for Ritalin at schools and colleges.

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      I help out with wrestling at our local college and I am told by the coach that the kids who are not diagnosed with ADD and therefore do not take ritalin, routinely take the meds of their classmates.

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        Adequate replacement for involved parents and competent educators? No.
        Doping a 5 year old because he won't sit still is sick.

        Members of the college wrestling team taking this stuff so they can achieve higher grades is no different than them taking some sort of steroid to make themselves physically stronger so they can do better out on the mat.

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          Did not mean to imply that it was only the wrestling team, just stating how I gained the information. He was implying that it is common practice for all the students.

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            Originally posted by friendly_jacek View Post
            Scientists are behind the curve. Every school child can tell you that they get better test scores when they take Ritalin while studying night before. This is why there is a black market for Ritalin at schools and colleges.
            I dont need a school child to tell me this

            I just finished a masters degree making almost all A's with no drugs. I did the work and studied hard. The last course I took was ancient Greek - language.

            BS to Ridilin - Anybody who takes it w/o a RX is behind the curve with the scientists.

            Cindy

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              That learning can be accomplished without drugs is without question.

              The question is, is if better results can be obtained while using them?

              The study would appear to indicate - scientifically - that the answer is 'Yes'.

              The author of the book "One Minute Millionaire" in fact is a drug seller of such products.

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                Originally posted by c1ue View Post

                The question is, is if better results can be obtained while using them?

                The study would appear to indicate - scientifically - that the answer is 'Yes'.

                I don't think that anyone would doubt that scientifically, one probably does focus better and absorb more information in a shorter amount of time with this stuff, than without it. Just as alcohol would impair one's ability to drive a car or operate heavy machinery. Drugs effect behavior... We've known that for centuries.

                The problem for me lies in the fact that even as the use of these types of drugs goes up, educational achievements and standards in this country continue to drop. The problem isn't with the kids, it's with the parents and the people that are supposed to be teaching them.

                That we're giving this crap to children without any kind of full knowledge of what the lasting effects might be is nothing short of sick and depraved in my opinion.

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                  Originally posted by roxtar
                  The problem for me lies in the fact that even as the use of these types of drugs goes up, educational achievements and standards in this country continue to drop. The problem isn't with the kids, it's with the parents and the people that are supposed to be teaching them.

                  That we're giving this crap to children without any kind of full knowledge of what the lasting effects might be is nothing short of sick and depraved in my opinion.
                  I don't disagree with what you say, in fact I am in complete agreement.

                  However, the position we are both taking may be similar to those athletes refusing to take designer drugs for better performance: admirable but ultimately you don't win the races.

                  In the modern era with so much dependent on test scores, university entrance, etc etc - the question is would long term debilitating effects be worth it anyway?

                  For athletes - there was a study that showed that a large number (at least 50%) would trade 10% lifespan for 10% better performance.

                  Would it be surprising if the same dynamic held for intellectual athletes?

                  For that matter, if you could get 10% better results even upon your already strong work/study ethic with the resulting disproportionate return (Harvard vs. state college, for example), the economic choice wouldn't be so surprising.

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                    I had a neighbor who took drugs for supposed "ADHD". Before he took them he was fine, though perhaps a bit unfocused in his own mind. He seemed perfectly normal to me. In no way was he hyperactive. He just had a very active mind. He had a thriving business and a good family life. After starting the drugs, he would stay up all night working on far fetched business plans, ignored his family completely, and ended up divorced and bankrupt. So I guess just because it enables one to "concentrate" well doesn't mean it doesn't affect other things like judgment, etc. He swore by these drugs and felt it made him better able to focus. But there was a night and day change in him and I feel the drugs were somewhat responsible for his downfall. They seemed to give him a dangerous sense of invincibility that he could not see was unhealthy. Probably not a lot different than taking Meth. Funny thing is, when he was broke and no longer able to afford the meds, he turned back into his normal, fun to be around self. Unfortunately he found a job and was able to afford the medicine again, and turned back into a jerk nobody could stand.

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                      Both of my sons were considered to be and flagged as ADD types going through school. Generally, it was because they were bright and engaged and bored shitless by their teachers and acted our frustration once in a while. I refused such aggressive desires to put them on drugs. They continued to "paradoxically" to do well and find success at getting an education despite our scandalous lack of resources we dedicate to our educational systems.

                      Bright minds are dynamic and chaotic and like a wild stallion must learn self discipline to eventually reach their full potential. Drugs are like the tools of an aggressive surgeon or an fanatical engineer slashing and burning trying to force life with some violent act of change to reach an "ideal". This is a stupid as a sculpture who is fixated on perfect spheres. Boring.

                      I understand there are extreme cases but the systematic use of these drugs is catastrophic to how interesting we are.

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                        Originally posted by cindykimlisa View Post
                        I dont need a school child to tell me this

                        I just finished a masters degree making almost all A's with no drugs. I did the work and studied hard. The last course I took was ancient Greek - language.

                        BS to Ridilin - Anybody who takes it w/o a RX is behind the curve with the scientists.

                        Cindy
                        You are female. Prior to the advent of industrial education in the late 19th century, school pretty much consisted of the three "r"s. Boys learned as young children the basics of how to learn, and from there were able to let their passions drive them as they saw fit. Women are much more suited to the modern concept of education, i.e. sitting still and taking direction for most of the day. The most successful men in the college environment tend to be the most effeminate, while ethnicities with large numbers of low testosterone populations also tend to have groups that function well within a highly structured indoctrination environment (i.e. East Asians).

                        The effects of stimulants on men are not well understood, but there is a relationship between testosterone, the hormone that makes mammals male, and the cortisol/adrenaline axis. All stimulants to some degree influence this biological function. The structure of amphetamine for instance is very similar to adrenaline.

                        Anyway, there is a fairly significant amount of evidence that higher baseline levels of testosterone low tolerance for boredome, presumably to encourage pursuit of more immediately beneficial ends (food, sex, etc.). The "reward" for this drive appears to be adrenalin, which would indicate there are indeed adrenalin "junkies" of a sort. Stimulants, by either mimicing adrenalin (amphetamine) or initiating its release (cocaine) seem to play a role in this. Exercise also works very well.

                        In any event, man has been consuming intoxicants since the dawn of civilization. Thou shalt not judge.

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                          Originally posted by flintlock
                          Probably not a lot different than taking Meth.
                          Ritalin and similar ADD fighters are stimulants.

                          The study points out that they also can do other things.

                          To my knowledge, meth doesn't.

                          Your neighbor's experience may be due to dosage...

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                            Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
                            Both of my sons were considered to be and flagged as ADD types going through school. Generally, it was because they were bright and engaged and bored shitless by their teachers and acted our frustration once in a while. I refused such aggressive desires to put them on drugs. They continued to "paradoxically" to do well and find success at getting an education despite our scandalous lack of resources we dedicate to our educational systems.

                            Bright minds are dynamic and chaotic and like a wild stallion must learn self discipline to eventually reach their full potential. Drugs are like the tools of an aggressive surgeon or an fanatical engineer slashing and burning trying to force life with some violent act of change to reach an "ideal". This is a stupid as a sculpture who is fixated on perfect spheres. Boring.

                            I understand there are extreme cases but the systematic use of these drugs is catastrophic to how interesting we are.
                            It's tough raising boys - society seems to want them to be perfect students, more like girls (aged 9 - ~14).....:confused:

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                              Nervousness and insomnia are the most common adverse reactions but are usually controlled by reducing dosage and omitting the drug in the afternoon or evening. Other reactions include hypersensitivity (including skin rash, urticaria, fever, arthralgia, exfoliative dermatitis, erythema multiforme with histopathological findings of necrotizing vasculitis, and thrombocytopenic purpura); anorexia; nausea; dizzines; palpitations; headache; dyskinesia; drowsiness; blood pressure and pulse changes, both up and down; tachycardia; angina; cardiac arrhythmia; abdominal pain; weight loss during prolonged therapy. There have been rare reports of Tourette's syndrome. Toxic psychosis has been reported. Although a definite causal relationship has not been established, the following have been reported in patients taking this drug: leukopenia and/or anemia; a few instances of scalp hair loss. In children, loss of appetite, abdominal pain, weight loss during prolonged therapy, insomnia, and tachycardia may occur more frequently; however, any of the other adverse reactions listed above may also occur.

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