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    Hmm - is this a reversal in policy, pure rhetoric or just a matter of whether the man behind the curtain wants to define the next economic problem to tackle as debt or deflation?

    The economic casino continues...

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-debt//print/

    Originally published 05:00 a.m., February 25, 2010, updated 04:00 p.m., February 25, 2010
    Bernanke delivers blunt warning on U.S. debt

    Patrice Hill

    With uncharacteristic bluntness, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke warned Congress on Wednesday that the United States could soon face a debt crisis like the one in Greece, and declared that the central bank will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal debt.

    Recent events in Europe, where Greece and other nations with large, unsustainable deficits like the United States are having increasing trouble selling their debt to investors, show that the U.S. is vulnerable to a sudden reversal of fortunes that would force taxpayers to pay higher interest rates on the debt, Mr. Bernanke said.

    "It's not something that is 10 years away. It affects the markets currently," he told the House Financial Services Committee. "It is possible that bond markets will become worried about the sustainability [of yearly deficits over $1 trillion], and we may find ourselves facing higher interest rates even today."

    It was some of the toughest rhetoric to date about the nation's fiscal and budgetary woes from the Fed chief, who faces a second round of questioning Thursday before a Senate panel.

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    Mr. Bernanke for the first time addressed concerns that the impasse in Congress over tough spending cuts and tax increases needed to bring down deficits will eventually force the Fed to accommodate deficits by printing money and buying Treasury bonds — effectively financing the deficit on behalf of Congress and spurring inflation in the process.

    Some economists at the International Monetary Fund and elsewhere have advocated this approach, suggesting running moderate inflation rates of 4 percent to 6 percent as a partial solution to the U.S. debt problem. But the move runs the risk of damaging the dollar's reputation and spawning much higher inflation that would be debilitating to the U.S. economy and living standards.

    Rep. Brad Sherman, California Democrat, asked Mr. Bernanke directly whether the Fed would consider such a strategy, especially since IMF officials endorsed it.

    "We're not going to monetize the debt," Mr. Bernanke declared flatly, stressing that Congress needs to start making plans to bring down the deficit to avoid such a dangerous dilemma for the Fed.

    "It is very, very important for Congress and administration to come to some kind of program, some kind of plan that will credibly show how the United States government is going to bring itself back to a sustainable position."

    Separately, Mr. Bernanke's predecessor, Alan Greenspan, told Bloomberg News that "fiscal affairs are threatening the outlook" for recovery from recession as Congress and the White House have been unable for years to make tough decisions to raise taxes or cut spending.

    He said he is so concerned about a sudden sharp increase in interest rates that every day he checks the interest rate on 10-year Treasury notes and 30-year Treasury bonds, calling them the "critical Achilles' heel" of the economy.

    Despite his gloomy testimony, Mr. Bernanke dismissed concerns that the United States will lose its gold-plated AAA credit rating any time soon. Moody's Investors Service recently said that the U.S. rating would come "under pressure" at some point if Congress does not rein in the budget deficit.

    The Fed chairman said repeatedly that he understands how difficult it will be for Congress to tame deficits by curbing spending in popular programs like Social Security, Medicare and defense, while also considering tax hikes. But he said there would be an immediate payoff: lower interest rates.

    "It would be very helpful, even to the current recovery, to markets' confidence, if there were a sustainable, credible plan for a fiscal exit," he said.

    A plan that eases market worries by laying out how Congress will address the long-term insolvency of Social Security, Medicare and other entitlement programs also would give Congress more room to take the actions needed today to address the jobs crisis, Mr. Bernanke added.

    "There could be a bonus there," he said. "To the extent that we can achieve credible plans to reduce medium- to long-term deficits, we'll actually have more flexibility in the short term if we want to take other kinds of actions."

    Separately, the debate continued over whether Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two mortgage financing giants, should be included in the federal budget books now that the Obama administration has taken the limits off aid the Treasury Department is prepared to give the companies to keep them solvent.

    Republicans, including Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama, the top Republican on the banking committee, have argued that the government is now effectively guaranteeing Fannie and Freddie's nearly $5 trillion of mortgage-backed securities and other debt, so their revenues and liabilities should be included in the federal budget as obligations of the government. Taking this step would greatly bloat the federal balance sheet.

    Mr. Bachus said he worries that keeping Fannie and Freddie's status off the federal books is "the same sort of financial shell game that has brought governments like Greece to a crisis point."

    But Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, who also testified on Capitol Hill on Wednesday, said the administration opposes including the quasi-government entities in the budget, although it lifted the limits on aid to Fannie and Freddie with the intent of assuring financial markets that the U.S. government stands behind their obligations.

    "We do not think it is necessary to consolidate the full obligations of Fannie and Freddie onto the nation's budget. But we do think it's very important … that we make it clear to investors around the world that we will make sure that we will take the actions necessary" to keep the two entities stable, he told the House Budget Committee.



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    Did anyone else see or hear this hearing?

    Ron Paul, what was the point of this line of questioning?


    He's making it too easy for everyone else to classify him as a kook.

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      Perhaps this is an effort to dampen 'inflation expectations'? In words, I mean. They will say whatever plausible things they need to say to dampen expectations, regardless of what they will actually do. What else can they say at this point to dampen inflation expectations?

      "We will NOT print money! NOT, NOT, NOT!"

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        Re: Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal de

        Originally posted by babbittd View Post
        He's making it too easy for everyone else to classify him as a kook.
        That's one of the problems with the truth about sufficiently big lies; it can be dismissed as too outrageous or unseemly.
        Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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          Re: Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal de

          Originally posted by babbittd View Post
          Did anyone else see or hear this hearing?

          Ron Paul, what was the point of this line of questioning?


          He's making it too easy for everyone else to classify him as a kook.
          I think part of the problem is the format of these hearings. I believe this is part of the stonewalling Paul was talking about (Frank commented at end of the clip):

          http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/14/op...l?pagewanted=1

          Follow the Money
          By Martin Mayer
          Published: January 14, 2004

          Correction Appended
          SHELTER ISLAND, N.Y.— It has been exactly one month since President Bush announced the capture of Saddam Hussein. American officials interrogating Mr. Hussein are obviously interested in what he knows about illegal weapons programs in Iraq, human rights violations and other crimes. Whether he will cooperate remains to be seen.

          But there is another line of questioning officials might pursue -- one that depends less on the cooperation of Mr. Hussein than on the assistance of the United States Federal Reserve Bank. Among Mr. Hussein's possessions when he was captured was three-quarters of a million dollars in United States currency in crisp new bills. Whence came the gentleman's stash?

          Answering this question would help our understanding of terrorist financial networks. And if the cash is sequentially numbered, as is likely, then the question could be easily answered.

          All United States currency is printed by the United States Mint, to the order of one of the 12 banks of the Federal Reserve system. It comes into circulation through a bank that has an account at the Fed for which it was printed. The Fed deducts the face value of the bills from that account, and an armored car takes them to their new owner.

          That regional Federal Reserve Bank keeps a record that identifies the purchasing bank. And the purchaser knows how it disposed of the bills. When they are found all together, it means that the bank that bought the bills did not feed them out from the teller window or the cash machine, but delivered them to a single customer.

          And the bank knows who that customer was. Between, say, Philadelphia and Iraq, there is no doubt a chain, perhaps involving banks in the Cayman or Channel Islands, in Abu Dhabi or Dubai. Still, each bank in the chain can give the name of the customer to which it gave these bills.

          Although Saddam Hussein's government had many sanctions against it, it may well be that no laws were broken in the passage of the Federal Reserve notes from the mint to Tikrit. But it would be interesting to know which banks were collaborators in getting that cash to the tyrant of Iraq.

          Unfortunately, the search for these witting or unwitting collaborators cannot even get started, because the Federal Reserve Board will not permit regional banks to reveal the identity of the purchasers of large blocks of United States currency. There is no law that prohibits such disclosure; it's simply a Fed policy. Yet in this age of payroll services and electronic payments, there are few legitimate uses outside the banking system for very large orders of hundred-dollar bills.

          The Fed has always resisted placing American banks under obligation to reveal skulduggery, whether it involves drug smuggling, commercial fraud, terrorism or other international conspiracy. Banks are not, the Fed insists, law enforcement agencies. It may be that the F.B.I. has access to the Fed's records -- a spokesman for the Fed, after checking with the main office, would not say yea or nay -- but it is not clear that the F.B.I. has authority to continue such searches beyond American borders.

          The Fed's manual on the Bank Secrecy Act still says that ''know your customer'' rules, while desirable, are ''not presently required by regulation or statute'' -- though the Patriot Act has spawned some rules on the identification of new customers. At any rate, the manual says rather mysteriously, such rules ''should not interfere with the relationship of the financial institution with its good customers.''

          Senators Charles E. Grassley and Max Baucus, chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the Finance Committee, complained to the Treasury Department last year that not enough has been done to keep the financiers of terrorism from paying their bills through the American financial system. Perhaps Congress should tell the Fed to release its hold on information about which banks supply the bundles of cash that facilitate international crime.

          Drawing (Drawing by Tim Lane)
          Martin Mayer, a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution, is author of ''The Fed.''

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            Dr. Paul was the luncheon speaker at the Mises Institute meeting on Jekyll Island today and spoke to this matter including Bernanke's objections that Dr. Paul's views were bizarre. The audience in attendance certainly did not think that he was a kook. But then I suppose one has to consider the audience. I felt right at home.
            I believe that Dr. Paul believes that we are at a pivotal moment in history and that the FED is vulernable as never before. People all over the world are starting to wake up from a long dream and the scales are beginning to fall away. This is how it starts.

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            • #7
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              "Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal debt"

              Who are they trying to kid?? Of course they will.

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                Re: Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal de

                Originally posted by swannmex View Post
                "Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal debt"

                Who are they trying to kid?? Of course they will.
                Print or Die Trying.

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                  Think we will achieve both!
                  We are all little cockroaches running around guessing when the FED will turn OFF the Lights.

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                    Originally posted by Quincy K View Post
                    Print or Die Trying.
                    I wonder if there is a company that makes the zero key for keyboards exclusively or as a special focus. The demand for it can only go up! :cool:

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                      They will not print and continue to obstruct until another friendly fascist is elected - such as Jeb Bush.

                      The mid terms are a huge opportunity to elected another 20-30 fascists into congress.

                      I hope not, but I fear Americans are still asleep and retarded and so will get sucked into electing more scumbags by all the wall-street campaign money that will hit CNBC, Fox news for the mid-terms.

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                        Re: Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal de

                        Is this the same guy?
                        Bernanke: There's No Housing Bubble to Go Bust

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                          "Federal Reserve will not help legislators by printing money to pay for the ballooning federal debt" They are ALREADY DOING IT.

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                            Maybe Bernanke is remembering he's a republican appointee and he's going to start pushing interest rates up and Obama out.

                            The only thing is, if Republicans inherit the presidency.. what the hell are they going to do??

                            They're just as screwed as Obama is. Not like they can just cut taxes.

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                              If the Fed is not going to print money, then municipal bonds in California bearing the guarantee called, "the General Obligation (GO) of the State of Cal." are --- a long pause here--- WORTHLESS.
                              Last edited by Starving Steve; February 28, 2010, 12:06 PM.

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