Falklands Oil......not going to be cheap

[Mega]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7313...sh-waters.html

This is not 1982, this time the British face Latin America not just Argentinian........if they smart they give them a % of the oil..............i suspect the fools will try to tough it out.
Mike

[lakedaemonian]

Re: Falklands Oil......not going to be cheap

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/7313...sh-waters.html

This is not 1982, this time the British face Latin America not just Argentinian........if they smart they give them a % of the oil..............i suspect the fools will try to tough it out.
Mike

If the Falklands energy find turns out to be another North Sea Oil discovery, why would the UK even CONSIDER sharing?

With the way both Russia and Libya are using their energy weapon much like Master Blaster from Bartertown in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, and the UK having to get on it's knees for Qaddafi with Tony Blair's disgusting visit a few years back followed by the rather embarrassing party for the "terminally ill" terrorist in Tripoli, why would the UK even bother playing nice?

Look at how Libya is treating Switzerland after one of his sons was embarrassingly busted there for beating the hired help?

You are correct, this ISN'T 1982.

Argentina's military is currently in a disgraceful state.

And the Falklands are EASILY defensible.

A pair of nuclear attack subs, a dozen Eurofighters, and a battalion of Royal Marines and it would take nothing short of a US Carrier and Amphib Battle Group + to have a decent shot at taking the Falklands down.

The Argentine military couldn't perform a forced entry on a 7/11 store two blocks away without taking serious casualties.

Argentina and Venezuela are simply trying to divert attention away from their horrific domestic economic situation.

Brazil isn't going to assist Argentina in any meaningful way, nor will it possess the capability to do so for a couple decades.

If the Falklands EEZ is truly rich in recoverable energy, I'd bet my last peso the UK will burn anything to the ground that attempts to interfere with that potential energy cash cow.


My vote says the UK gives Argentina the middle finger for another 28 years since the last time.

Just my 0.02c

[Mango]

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A number of years ago I spoke with an American oil driller with years of overseas experience. He said the oil from the Falklands was so fine that you could practically put it straight into a car.

[jpatter666]

Re: Falklands Oil......not going to be cheap

If the Falklands energy find turns out to be another North Sea Oil discovery, why would the UK even CONSIDER sharing?

With the way both Russia and Libya are using their energy weapon much like Master Blaster from Bartertown in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, and the UK having to get on it's knees for Qaddafi with Tony Blair's disgusting visit a few years back followed by the rather embarrassing party for the "terminally ill" terrorist in Tripoli, why would the UK even bother playing nice?

Look at how Libya is treating Switzerland after one of his sons was embarrassingly busted there for beating the hired help?

You are correct, this ISN'T 1982.

Argentina's military is currently in a disgraceful state.

And the Falklands are EASILY defensible.

A pair of nuclear attack subs, a dozen Eurofighters, and a battalion of Royal Marines and it would take nothing short of a US Carrier and Amphib Battle Group + to have a decent shot at taking the Falklands down.

The Argentine military couldn't perform a forced entry on a 7/11 store two blocks away without taking serious casualties.

Argentina and Venezuela are simply trying to divert attention away from their horrific domestic economic situation.

Brazil isn't going to assist Argentina in any meaningful way, nor will it possess the capability to do so for a couple decades.

If the Falklands EEZ is truly rich in recoverable energy, I'd bet my last peso the UK will burn anything to the ground that attempts to interfere with that potential energy cash cow.


My vote says the UK gives Argentina the middle finger for another 28 years since the last time.

Just my 0.02c

You may be right about the Argentine military -- that doesn't preclude them trying though.

Didn't last time.

[MulaMan]

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Argentina could always make a deal with the Chinese.

[KGW]

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Let's see. . .England is in the North Atlantic, several thousands of miles away. Argentina is right next door. I think Argentina has more claim than Old Blighty.

It's like China laying claim to Catalina Island and the seabed around it. . .Yeah, that would fly. . .:rolleyes:

Last exhalation of a dead empire.

[gordonbrown]

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So the principle of self determination carries no weight with you? Mexico is next door to Texas. much closer and has a better historical claim to Texas than the Argentine has to the Falklands. Furthermore, a growing proportion of the population of Texas, and elsewhere, is Mexican. None of the population of the Falklands is Argentinian, unless you count the poor luckless souls who lie under the soil.

[KGW]

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Self-determination? How about highway robbery? The United States, ahem, is not a very good example. Imperial England is implicated in many of the world's "hot spots."

So the principle of self determination carries no weight with you? Mexico is next door to Texas. much closer and has a better historical claim to Texas than the Argentine has to the Falklands. Furthermore, a growing proportion of the population of Texas, and elsewhere, is Mexican. None of the population of the Falklands is Argentinian, unless you count the poor luckless souls who lie under the soil.

[jiimbergin]

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Self-determination? How about highway robbery? The United States, ahem, is not a very good example. Imperial England is implicated in many of the world's "hot spots."

What do you mean highway robbery. The citizens of the Islands are almost all of British descent, essentially zero percent of them are of Argentine descent. There are a few of Chilean descent They have clearly voted to be British. Why should Argentine be able to take them over. That makes no sense.

jim

[jpatter666]

Re: Falklands Oil......not going to be cheap

Let's see. . .England is in the North Atlantic, several thousands of miles away. Argentina is right next door. I think Argentina has more claim than Old Blighty.

It's like China laying claim to Catalina Island and the seabed around it. . .Yeah, that would fly. . .:rolleyes:

Last exhalation of a dead empire.

Alaska? Hawaii? Guam?

I'm not sure proximity has much to do with it.

Interesting history from Wikipedia:

Since their discovery, the Falkland Islands have had a complex history. France, Britain, Spain, and Argentina have all claimed possession at some time, and have established and abandoned settlements on the islands. The Falklands Crisis of 1770 was nearly the cause of a war between a Franco-Spanish Alliance and Britain. Argentina took over and continued the Spanish government's claim after its declaration of independence in 1816 and the independence war in 1817. The American sloop USS Lexington destroyed the Argentine settlement at Port Louis on 28 December 1831, and the United Kingdom returned to the islands in 1833. Argentina has continued to claim sovereignty over the islands, and in 1982 a military junta used the dispute as a pretext to invade and briefly occupy the islands. A United Kingdom task force defeated the occupying troops and returned the islands to British control in the two-month-long Falklands War.

[KGW]

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"The citizens of Iraq are almost all of Arab descent, essentially zero percent of them are of British descent. There are a few of Iranian descent. They have clearly voted to be Iraqi. Why should Britain be able to take them over. That makes no sense."

Insert your political bias here. But don't expect it to make sense. . .

What do you mean highway robbery. The citizens of the Islands are almost all of British descent, essentially zero percent of them are of Argentine descent. There are a few of Chilean descent They have clearly voted to be British. Why should Argentine be able to take them over. That makes no sense.

jim

[gordonbrown]

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"The citizens of Iraq are almost all of Arab descent, essentially zero percent of them are of British descent. There are a few of Iranian descent. They have clearly voted to be Iraqi. Why should Britain be able to take them over. That makes no sense."

Insert your political bias here. But don't expect it to make sense. . .

What a strange reply, perhaps it was late and you were tired and emotional when you wrote it. The United Kingdom has never laid claim to territorial possession of Iraq. Perhaps you could reflect and clarify your thinking for us.

[KGW]

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One day the box your thoughts are in may seem tight. . .Watch what people say, and then watch what they do.


Troops in Afghanistan 'for years'
Britain will be "militarily engaged" in Afghanistan for a further five years, the head of the Army has said.
General Sir David Richards told the Daily Telegraph, while on a visit to Helmand, that he expected the military conflict to "trail off in 2011".
But British troops will continue in training and support roles, he said.
He also warned that coalition troops could not afford to fail and said UK forces now "for the first time" had the resources they had wanted.
Sir David said in August that he believed the UK would be committed to Afghanistan "in some manner" for the next 30 or 40 years, possibly through roles in development, governance and security sector reform.
Sir David said: "The combat role will start to decline in 2011, but we will remain military engaged in training and support roles for another five years, and we will remain in a support role for many years to come."



Speaking on a visit to Afghanistan during Operation Moshtarak, which is an ongoing offensive to attack the Taliban, he said the campaign was showing some "very optimistic signs".
He added: "A year ago the Taliban thought they had us on the run, but now the tables have turned. They are under relentless pressure and they are now having some serious thoughts about continuing the fight.
"I do not think we can afford to fail in Afghanistan because of the intoxicating effect failure will have on those militants who oppose democracy and our freedoms.
"The Taliban is now beginning to realise that they can lose this war, which was not the view they had a year ago."
Sir David's comments come after the deaths of three British servicemen in three days.
A soldier from 28 Engineer Regiment, attached to the Brigade Reconnaissance Force, died on Friday after being caught in a blast near a check point in Nad Ali, Helmand. He has not yet been named.
Rifleman Martin Kinggett from A Company 4 Rifles was shot dead in Sangin on Thursday and Senior Aircraftman Luke Southgate died in an explosion north of Kandahar airfield on Wednesday.
A total of 266 British service personnel have died since the conflict began.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...ws/8540402.stm

Published: 2010/02/27 11:35:31 GMT

What a strange reply, perhaps it was late and you were tired and emotional when you wrote it. The United Kingdom has never laid claim to territorial possession of Iraq. Perhaps you could reflect and clarify your thinking for us.

[gordonbrown]

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I fail to see the relevance of your last post. Our involvement in the 'Stan and, for that matter, elsewhere, has no relevance to the issue of the Falklands, any more than our anti terrorist operations in Northern Ireland, were related to contemporaneous and subsequent to the FI action. If you deny others the liberty to freely choose how they will be governed and to whom, or whatever concept, they pledge their allegiance then you deserve no such choice yourself.

[jiimbergin]

Re: Falklands Oil......not going to be cheap

One day the box your thoughts are in may seem tight. . .Watch what people say, and then watch what they do.


Troops in Afghanistan 'for years'
Britain will be "militarily engaged" in Afghanistan for a further five years, the head of the Army has said.
General Sir David Richards told the Daily Telegraph, while on a visit to Helmand, that he expected the military conflict to "trail off in 2011".
But British troops will continue in training and support roles, he said.
He also warned that coalition troops could not afford to fail and said UK forces now "for the first time" had the resources they had wanted.
Sir David said in August that he believed the UK would be committed to Afghanistan "in some manner" for the next 30 or 40 years, possibly through roles in development, governance and security sector reform.
Sir David said: "The combat role will start to decline in 2011, but we will remain military engaged in training and support roles for another five years, and we will remain in a support role for many years to come."



Speaking on a visit to Afghanistan during Operation Moshtarak, which is an ongoing offensive to attack the Taliban, he said the campaign was showing some "very optimistic signs".
He added: "A year ago the Taliban thought they had us on the run, but now the tables have turned. They are under relentless pressure and they are now having some serious thoughts about continuing the fight.
"I do not think we can afford to fail in Afghanistan because of the intoxicating effect failure will have on those militants who oppose democracy and our freedoms.
"The Taliban is now beginning to realise that they can lose this war, which was not the view they had a year ago."
Sir David's comments come after the deaths of three British servicemen in three days.
A soldier from 28 Engineer Regiment, attached to the Brigade Reconnaissance Force, died on Friday after being caught in a blast near a check point in Nad Ali, Helmand. He has not yet been named.
Rifleman Martin Kinggett from A Company 4 Rifles was shot dead in Sangin on Thursday and Senior Aircraftman Luke Southgate died in an explosion north of Kandahar airfield on Wednesday.
A total of 266 British service personnel have died since the conflict began.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/h...ws/8540402.stm

Published: 2010/02/27 11:35:31 GMT

I can only gather from all your strange posts that you have a personal grudge against the UK. There is nothing else I can conclude from your posts:confused: