$300 to make a 911 call!

[Mega]

http://cbs13.com/local/tracy.911.calls.2.1502690.html
Mike

[don]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

Mike: I posted this also under the New Normal. It seemed a perfect fit ;)

[sishya]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

Not good. Nice town with cheap real estate and cheap food.

[bcassill]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

This is stupid. We already pay a 911 surcharge as part of our regular phone bill. Where the hell do they get off with the new fee?:mad:

[flintlock]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

It's nothing more than a government shake down of its citizens. I'd invest in $300 worth of firearms and ammo myself.

Of course, this does nothing for your fire protection.

What do you wanna bet the city council didn't consider slashing jobs as an option? I have a better idea. If it's anything like my local sheriff's dept, sell off all the fancy police SWAT vehicles , and other paramilitary gear to pay for 911. Sell the $1 million plus Emergency response command vehicles, the drug sniffing dogs, the black commando uniforms, the mounted patrol horses, computer equipment, and other crap the FEDs bought for them with our "Homeland Security" money.

These local governments spent like drunken sailors for the last 10 years of boom economy. Now they tell us they need more. Ridiculous.:eek:

[globaleconomicollaps]

9-1-1 service

This is kind of off topic but the article jogged my memory.

I was walking to work one day and I saw a man fall off a balcony. The guy is miraculously still breathing after falling about 30 feet, so I reach in my pocket and pull out my cell. I do what I think is the right thing and call 911. I didn't want to call 911 I wanted to call an ambulance, but that option has been taken away. Emergency services is now a package deal. you cannot break out the part you want. So I get the 911 operator on the line and she tells me to stay with the guy ( I am now late for work) or I am committing a crime ( what crime ). after about 20 minutes the cops show up. The cops check the guy out and start questioning me. They want to know all kinds of things about me. Where do I live, where do I work, why was I walking on that street, etc. They want to see my drivers license. I pull out my wallet and the cop takes my wallet. After ten minutes a hook and ladder rig shows up. This is now half an hour after the guy fell off of the balcony and I am very late. Still no ambulance in sight. I ask politely several times and I get my wallet back. I now continue on to work.

This whole thing makes me think that:
*) there is a concerted effort to criminalize everybody.
*) the purpose of the 911 system is to remove the triage function from the citizenry and insert the police into every "emergency".
*) If I had been high or j-walking or virtually anything not 100% square I might be in danger of going to jail for trying to help a guy falling off a building.

I will never call 911 again. Full stop. Denninger made the point today that regardless of what Tracy decides to do the well has been poisoned. He will not call 911 anywhere ( he lives in Florida) because the potential exists to charge him for the call.

[grapejelly]

Re: 9-1-1 service

http://www.richardgeller.org/22/the-free-lie/

Now, we are quickly entering a period where the monopolies that provide these services are charging. And the charges are outlandish compared to what a private competitor would charge. Since there have been no private competitors, when the cost of the service was "free" nobody cared. Now everyone cares.


All of government is based upon the free lie. It's free because you, the recipient of the service, do not have to pay. The fact is someone else who is not consuming the service is paying, and they have no say in the service delivery or costs as they are taxpayers without a choice.


I am excited about user fees because I see the Free Lie as being revealed. And more and more government "services" will be done by private competitors.

[globaleconomicollaps]

Re: 9-1-1 service

http://www.richardgeller.org/22/the-free-lie/

Now, we are quickly entering a period where the monopolies that provide these services are charging. And the charges are outlandish compared to what a private competitor would charge. Since there have been no private competitors, when the cost of the service was "free" nobody cared. Now everyone cares.


All of government is based upon the free lie. It's free because you, the recipient of the service, do not have to pay. The fact is someone else who is not consuming the service is paying, and they have no say in the service delivery or costs as they are taxpayers without a choice.


I am excited about user fees because I see the Free Lie as being revealed. And more and more government "services" will be done by private competitors.

You mean like private heath insurance companies charge less than publicly run health insurance companies in France?

[ggirod]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

It's nothing more than a government shake down of its citizens. I'd invest in $300 worth of firearms and ammo myself.

That reminds me of the documentary "Off Grid" about a bunch of people who settle in the desert miles away from any infrastructure and live their lives... The trailer for the film is here (no embedding) My favorite quote (1:55 in) is "Out here, we don't dial 9-1-1. We dial .357 ----

[cjppjc]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

Will the defense for taking the law into your own hands be I couldn't afford the $300.00?

[flintlock]

Re: 9-1-1 service

This is kind of off topic but the article jogged my memory.

I was walking to work one day and I saw a man fall off a balcony. The guy is miraculously still breathing after falling about 30 feet, so I reach in my pocket and pull out my cell. I do what I think is the right thing and call 911. I didn't want to call 911 I wanted to call an ambulance, but that option has been taken away. Emergency services is now a package deal. you cannot break out the part you want. So I get the 911 operator on the line and she tells me to stay with the guy ( I am now late for work) or I am committing a crime ( what crime ). after about 20 minutes the cops show up. The cops check the guy out and start questioning me. They want to know all kinds of things about me. Where do I live, where do I work, why was I walking on that street, etc. They want to see my drivers license. I pull out my wallet and the cop takes my wallet. After ten minutes a hook and ladder rig shows up. This is now half an hour after the guy fell off of the balcony and I am very late. Still no ambulance in sight. I ask politely several times and I get my wallet back. I now continue on to work.

This whole thing makes me think that:
*) there is a concerted effort to criminalize everybody.
*) the purpose of the 911 system is to remove the triage function from the citizenry and insert the police into every "emergency".
*) If I had been high or j-walking or virtually anything not 100% square I might be in danger of going to jail for trying to help a guy falling off a building.

I will never call 911 again. Full stop. Denninger made the point today that regardless of what Tracy decides to do the well has been poisoned. He will not call 911 anywhere ( he lives in Florida) because the potential exists to charge him for the call.

Reminds me of my story.
A few years ago I called to report a suspicious vehicle prowling the neighborhood at 3am. Turned out the guy was drunk and couldn't find his way out of our neighborhood. He was miles away from where he thought he was. Never heard a word about it until I got a subpoena a few months later requiring me to be a witness at his DUI trial!! I Missed two days of work . They never called me. What on earth I could have testified to I have no idea. I guess my calling gave them grounds to pull him over. In the end they dropped the case . Turns out it was his 2nd DUI that week! No more 911 for me either.

[DToM67]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

It's nothing more than a government shake down of its citizens.

I have a better idea. If it's anything like my local sheriff's dept, sell off all the fancy police SWAT vehicles , and other paramilitary gear to pay for 911. Sell the $1 million plus Emergency response command vehicles, the drug sniffing dogs, the black commando uniforms, the mounted patrol horses, computer equipment, and other crap the FEDs bought for them with our "Homeland Security" money.

These local governments spent like drunken sailors for the last 10 years of boom economy. Now they tell us they need more. Ridiculous.:eek:

Well said. Thunderous applause. My sentiments exactly!

Each time I hear the local PD's helicopter patrolling over my neighbourhood (10+ passes, circling the area) at night I curse the thing. There isn't (and never has been) enough crime in my entire vicinity to justify such exorbitant toys for the PD. I could understand if they suspected meth labs or grow houses in the area... but this has been going on for over a year in the entire town. Its got nothing to do with bad neighbourhoods, or bad apples...

Wasteful intrusive bullshit. Sell it all off!

[DToM67]

Re: 9-1-1 service

You mean like private heath insurance companies charge less than publicly run health insurance companies in France?

And like Backwater mercenaries, instead of actual military personnel? Have we learned nothing from for-profit services? Read up on the public schools/system in New Orleans prior to Katrina.

Do you believe that its possible for the school system to:
a) Place students' education as their utmost priority while
b) Having to concern themselves about turning a profit?

The objectives are in extreme conflict.

[flintlock]

Re: $300 to make a 911 call!

I have a friend who work's for the Sheriff's dept here. He was a liason officer with the FBI for a while. I asked him what he did. He said, investigate domestic terrorism. I asked for an example. He said he spent that week investigating a guy shining a laser at a police helicopter. Terrorism. :rolleyes:

He is also on the swat team. The department gave him a Ford Expedition to commute the 80 miles round trip to the Atlanta FBI office in, at 13 mpg. His Expedition has a fancy gun locker in the back loaded with numerous assault rifles and other toys. I'm talking an arsenal. Our county might have one or two incidents a year were the SWAT team was needed. Mostly drunks and domestic abuse stuff. You'd think it was LA they way they spend money on it. This is a sleepy bedroom community with almost zero violent crime. They are enlarging class sizes again next year at our school due to a lack of funds.