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    Tea Party Lights Fuse for Rebellion on Right




    By DAVID BARSTOW

    SANDPOINT, Idaho — Pam Stout has not always lived in fear of her government. She remembers her years working in federal housing programs, watching government lift struggling families with job training and education. She beams at the memory of helping a Vietnamese woman get into junior college.

    But all that was before the Great Recession and the bank bailouts, before Barack Obama took the White House by promising sweeping change on multiple fronts, before her son lost his job and his house. Mrs. Stout said she awoke to see Washington as a threat, a place where crisis is manipulated — even manufactured — by both parties to grab power.

    She was happily retired, and had never been active politically. But last April, she went to her first Tea Party rally, then to a meeting of the Sandpoint Tea Party Patriots. She did not know a soul, yet when they began electing board members, she stood up, swallowed hard, and nominated herself for president. “I was like, ‘Did I really just do that?’ ” she recalled.

    Then she went even further.

    Worried about hyperinflation, social unrest or even martial law, she and her Tea Party members joined a coalition, Friends for Liberty, that includes representatives from Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project, the John Birch Society, and Oath Keepers, a new player in a resurgent militia movement.

    When Friends for Liberty held its first public event, Mrs. Stout listened as Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff, brought 1,400 people to their feet with a speech about confronting a despotic federal government. Mrs. Stout said she felt as if she had been handed a road map to rebellion. Members of her family, she said, think she has disappeared down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. But Mrs. Stout said she has never felt so engaged.
    “I can’t go on being the shy, quiet me,” she said. “I need to stand up.”

    The Tea Party movement has become a platform for conservative populist discontent, a force in Republican politics for revival, as it was in the Massachusetts Senate election, or for division. But it is also about the profound private transformation of people like Mrs. Stout, people who not long ago were not especially interested in politics, yet now say they are bracing for tyranny.

    These people are part of a significant undercurrent within the Tea Party movement that has less in common with the Republican Party than with the Patriot movement, a brand of politics historically associated with libertarians, militia groups, anti-immigration advocates and those who argue for the abolition of the Federal Reserve.

    Urged on by conservative commentators, waves of newly minted activists are turning to once-obscure books and Web sites and discovering a set of ideas long dismissed as the preserve of conspiracy theorists, interviews conducted across the country over several months show. In this view, Mr. Obama and many of his predecessors (including George W. Bush) have deliberately undermined the Constitution and free enterprise for the benefit of a shadowy international network of wealthy elites.

    Loose alliances like Friends for Liberty are popping up in many cities, forming hybrid entities of Tea Parties and groups rooted in the Patriot ethos. These coalitions are not content with simply making the Republican Party more conservative. They have a larger goal — a political reordering that would drastically shrink the federal government and sweep away not just Mr. Obama, but much of the Republican establishment, starting with Senator John McCain.

    In many regions, including here in the inland Northwest, tense struggles have erupted over whether the Republican apparatus will co-opt these new coalitions or vice versa. Tea Party supporters are already singling out Republican candidates who they claim have “aided and abetted” what they call the slide to tyranny: Mark Steven Kirk, a candidate for the Senate from Illinois, for supporting global warming legislation; Gov. Charlie Crist of Florida, who is seeking a Senate seat, for supporting stimulus spending; and Meg Whitman, a candidate for governor in California, for saying she was a “big fan” of Van Jones, once Mr. Obama’s “green jobs czar.”

    During a recent meeting with Congressional Republicans, Mr. Obama acknowledged the potency of these attacks when he complained that depicting him as a would-be despot was complicating efforts to find bipartisan solutions.


    The ebbs and flows of the Tea Party ferment are hardly uniform. It is an amorphous, factionalized uprising with no clear leadership and no centralized structure. Not everyone flocking to the Tea Party movement is worried about dictatorship. Some have a basic aversion to big government, or Mr. Obama, or progressives in general. What’s more, some Tea Party groups are essentially appendages of the local Republican Party.

    But most are not. They are frequently led by political neophytes who prize independence and tell strikingly similar stories of having been awakened by the recession. Their families upended by lost jobs, foreclosed homes and depleted retirement funds, they said they wanted to know why it happened and whom to blame.

    That is often the point when Tea Party supporters say they began listening to Glenn Beck. With his guidance, they explored the Federalist Papers, exposés on the Federal Reserve, the work of Ayn Rand and George Orwell. Some went to constitutional seminars. Online, they discovered radical critiques of Washington on Web sites like ResistNet.com (“Home of the Patriotic Resistance”) and Infowars.com (“Because there is a war on for your mind.”).

    Many describe emerging from their research as if reborn to a new reality. Some have gone so far as to stock up on ammunition, gold and survival food in anticipation of the worst. For others, though, transformation seems to amount to trying on a new ideological outfit — embracing the rhetoric and buying the books.


    The Tea Party movement defies easy definition, largely because there is no single Tea Party.

    At the grass-roots level, it consists of hundreds of autonomous Tea Party groups, widely varying in size and priorities, each influenced by the peculiarities of local history.

    In the inland Northwest, the Tea Party movement has been shaped by the growing popularity in eastern Washington of Ron Paul, the libertarian congressman from Texas, and by a legacy of anti-government activism in northern Idaho. Outside Sandpoint, federal agents laid siege to Randy Weaver’s compound on Ruby Ridge in 1992, resulting in the deaths of a marshal and Mr. Weaver’s wife and son. To the south, Richard Butler, leader of the Aryan Nations, preached white separatism from a compound near Coeur d’Alene until he was shut down.

    Local Tea Party groups are often loosely affiliated with one of several competing national Tea Party organizations. In the background, offering advice and organizational muscle, are an array of conservative lobbying groups, most notably FreedomWorks. Further complicating matters, Tea Party events have become a magnet for other groups and causes — including gun rights activists, anti-tax crusaders, libertarians, militia organizers, the “birthers” who doubt President Obama’s citizenship, Lyndon LaRouche supporters and proponents of the sovereign states movement.

    It is a sprawling rebellion, but running through it is a narrative of impending tyranny. This narrative permeates Tea Party Web sites, Facebook pages, Twitter feeds and YouTube videos. It is a prominent theme of their favored media outlets and commentators, and it connects the disparate issues that preoccupy many Tea Party supporters — from the concern that the community organization Acorn is stealing elections to the belief that Mr. Obama is trying to control the Internet and restrict gun ownership.

    WorldNetDaily.com trumpets “exclusives” reporting that the Army is seeking “Internment/Resettlement” specialists. On ResistNet.com, bloggers warn that Mr. Obama is trying to convert Interpol, the international police organization, into his personal police force. They call on “fellow Patriots” to “grab their guns.”

    Mr. Beck frequently echoes Patriot rhetoric, discussing the possible arrival of a “New World Order” and arguing that Mr. Obama is using a strategy of manufactured crisis to destroy the economy and pave the way for dictatorship.

    At recent Tea Party events around the country, these concerns surfaced repeatedly.

    In New Mexico, Mary Johnson, recording secretary of the Las Cruces Tea Party steering committee, described why she fears the government. She pointed out how much easier it is since Sept. 11 for the government to tap telephones and scour e-mail, bank accounts and library records. “Twenty years ago that would have been a paranoid statement,” Ms. Johnson said. “It’s not anymore.”

    In Texas, Toby Marie Walker, president of the Waco Tea Party, stood on a stage before several thousand people, ticking off the institutions she no longer trusts — the federal government, both the major political parties, Wall Street. “Many of us don’t believe they have our best interests at heart,” Ms. Walker said. She choked back tears, but the crowd urged her on with shouts of “Go, Toby!”

    As it happened in the inland Northwest with Friends for Liberty, the fear of Washington and the disgust for both parties is producing new coalitions of Tea Party supporters and groups affiliated with the Patriot movement. In Indiana, for example, a group called the Defenders of Liberty is helping organize “meet-ups” with Tea Party groups and more than 50 Patriot organizations. The Ohio Freedom Alliance, meanwhile, is bringing together Tea Party supporters, Ohio sovereignty advocates and members of the Constitution and Libertarian Parties. The alliance is also helping to organize five “liberty conferences” in March, each featuring Richard Mack, the same speaker invited to address Friends for Liberty.

    Politicians courting the Tea Party movement are also alluding to Patriot dogma. At a Tea Party protest in Las Vegas, Joe Heck, a Republican running for Congress, blamed both the Democratic and Republican Parties for moving the country toward “socialistic tyranny.” In Texas, Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican seeking re-election, threw his support behind the state sovereignty movement. And in Indiana, Richard Behney, a Republican Senate candidate, told Tea Party supporters what he would do if the 2010 elections did not produce results to his liking: “I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.”

    Turning Points

    Fear of co-option — a perpetual topic in the Tea Party movement — lay behind the formation of Friends for Liberty.

    The new grass-roots leaders of the inland Northwest had grown weary of fending off what they jokingly called “hijack attempts” by the state and county Republican Parties. Whether the issue was picking speakers or scheduling events, they suspected party leaders of trying to choke off their revolution with Chamber of Commerce incrementalism.

    “We had to stand our ground, I’ll be blunt,” said Dann Selle, president of the Official Tea Party of Spokane.


    and more, much more. If it's a snapshot of the Teabag Phenomenon, it may have been taken by Ansel Adams ;)











  • #2
    Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

    But how do unite a band of "unrepresentative swill" with varying agendas and aims ????
    1/ you need a clear leader or United leaders
    2/ an agreed charter - a cornerstone on which you build
    3/ A Plan that sets out clear boundaries for probity, funding, committees and actions (weekly, monthly yearly and long term)

    in short

    Load - aim - shoot.

    The other parties fear them not. They are not armed with the tools to threaten a dead rabbit.

    But - OH boy - a certain English king once said "it is only a Stamp act"

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    • #3
      Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

      But - OH boy - a certain English king once said "it is only a Stamp act" Yesterday 05:19 PM
      Yep, and higher taxes are coming. They are running out of sneaky ways to tax us while telling us they are not raising taxes. When they go after retirement accounts, that is when the fuse will be lit. I think that day is coming soon.

      The Tea party is too scattered right now to be a threat. It's one thing to identify the problem. Another to come up with a solution everyone can agree on.

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        Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

        Originally posted by flintlock View Post
        Yep, and higher taxes are coming. They are running out of sneaky ways to tax us while telling us they are not raising taxes. When they go after retirement accounts, that is when the fuse will be lit. I think that day is coming soon.

        The Tea party is too scattered right now to be a threat. It's one thing to identify the problem. Another to come up with a solution everyone can agree on.
        I read claims that the government attempts to keep the gold price down by manipulation, I guess so it doesn't "compete" with the dollar. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but it seems to me that raising the tax on gold sales would be a good way to scare people out of gold and lower the price.

        Already we've got the irrational "collectibles" tax on bullion gold. How can the government possibly rationalize gold bullion as being a collectible like artwork or rare stamps and coins? The answer is that they can't . . . they just do what they want to serve their purposes . . . . :eek:

        Thoughts?
        raja
        Boycott Big Banks • Vote Out Incumbents

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          Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

          Originally posted by don View Post

          ...She remembers her years working in federal housing programs...

          ...that was before Barack Obama took the White House
          before her son lost his job and his house...

          ...Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project, the John Birch Society, and Oath Keepers, a new player in a resurgent militia movement...

          ...the Patriot movement, a brand of politics historically associated with libertarians, militia groups, anti-immigration advocates...

          ....Their families upended by lost jobs, foreclosed homes and depleted retirement funds, they said they wanted to know why it happened and whom to blame...

          ...Ruby Ridge ...Aryan Nations...Lyndon LaRouche supporters...
          ...“grab their guns.”

          ...“I’m cleaning my guns and getting ready for the big show. And I’m serious about that, and I bet you are, too.”
          "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
          -H. L. Mencken
          Last edited by thriftyandboringinohio; February 17, 2010, 03:20 PM.

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          • #6
            Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

            Originally posted by raja View Post
            I read claims that the government attempts to keep the gold price down by manipulation, I guess so it doesn't "compete" with the dollar. I have no idea whether that's true or not, but it seems to me that raising the tax on gold sales would be a good way to scare people out of gold and lower the price.

            Already we've got the irrational "collectibles" tax on bullion gold. How can the government possibly rationalize gold bullion as being a collectible like artwork or rare stamps and coins? The answer is that they can't . . . they just do what they want to serve their purposes . . . . :eek:

            Thoughts?
            I think you are right about Gold. Thing is, they can tax anything, anytime, anywhere. All politics in America is about these days is deciding which poor sucker to hit with taxes so it won't backfire on you at the ballot box. They are running out of "acceptable" taxes. Blood from a turnip.

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            • #7
              Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

              I really really don't like to admit it, but its impossible to argue with many of the issues that are inspiring / arousing these folks (Tea Party). Unfortunately even though I agree with many of their points I find them incredibly distasteful. I guess I perceive it to be a movement that is fundamentally based on fear and even a lot of hate, and the rational parts of their 'platform' are primarily excuses. BTW I'm not trying to be provocative in a negative way to our more right-leaning members, just throwing out some of my thoughts for discussion.

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              • #8
                Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

                I get a similar vibe from it. As if many "tea baggers" don't even understand what they are protesting. But isn't that always how politics works. If most people really understood it all we'd have a benevolent dictator by now.

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                • #9
                  Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

                  May I humbly suggest that the Tea Party unite itself behind the strict and literal interpretation of the US Constitution & Bill of Rights with all the amendments. If they did nothing more than that, they would have accomplished more than all the governments in the last 100 years.

                  The beauty of this is that it cannot be easily attacked by those wishing to retain power & the current rationalizations. For those who are ultra-conservative, it is perfect too. For those who wish "revolution", it is also the ideal solution. For those who wish smaller government, it is also perfect. It's win-win-win.

                  Who will take the first step by filing lawsuits and petitions against all of the far-flung practices that have crept into today's practices by government. Fight through the courts now, then fight through the next elections, and everybody meets somewhere in the middle.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

                    Originally posted by leegs View Post
                    Unfortunately even though I agree with many of their points I find them incredibly distasteful.
                    That's a sign of successful psyops. To discredit an undesired movement that is starting to gain traction, inundate it with some incredibly distasteful loudmouths and thugs who claim to be enthusiastic supporters.
                    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

                      Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                      That's a sign of successful psyops. To discredit an undesired movement that is starting to gain traction, inundate it with some incredibly distasteful loudmouths and thugs who claim to be enthusiastic supporters.
                      Mission Accomplished, Glenn Beck.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Checking the Pulse of Vox Populi

                        Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                        That's a sign of successful psyops. To discredit an undesired movement that is starting to gain traction, inundate it with some incredibly distasteful loudmouths and thugs who claim to be enthusiastic supporters.
                        All I have to do is ask a "Tea Party" supporter whether they support bombing Iran or not. Usually their answer indicates whether or not they know what theyre talking about...
                        Every interest bearing loan is mathematically impossible to pay back.

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