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  • Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

    Don't say you were not warned. ZH has an updated posting on the the new SEC rule allowing financial service providers to suspend payouts from their money market accounts:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/print/63493

    Here is the posting in it's entirety

    "Zero Hedge discussed a month [1]ago the disastrous prospects of what would happen if the new proposal contemplated by the SEC, which would allow the suspension of redemptions from Money Market Funds, were to pass. Well, in a nearly unanimous vote, Money Market Funds now have the ability to suspend redemptions, courtesy of the SEC's just passed 4-1 vote. This explains the negative rate on bills: at this point, should there be another meltdown, money market investors will not, repeat not, be able to withdraw their money purely on the whim of Mary Schapiro. As the SEC noted: "We understand that suspending redemptions may impose hardships on investors who rely on their ability to redeem shares." Too bad investors' hardships considerations ended up being completely irrelevant.
    As a reminder, here is the gist of the proposal as pertains to redemption suspension [2]:
    Proposed rule 22e–3(a) would permit a money market fund to suspend redemptions if: (i) The fund’s current price per share, calculated pursuant to rule 2a–7(c), is less than the fund’s stable net asset value per share; (ii) its board of directors, including a majority of directors who are not interested persons, approves the liquidation of the fund; and (iii) the fund, prior to suspending redemptions, notifies the Commission of its decision to liquidate and suspend redemptions, by electronic mail directed to the attention of our Director of the Division of Investment Management or the Director’s designee. These proposed conditions are intended to ensure that any suspension of redemptions will be consistent with the underlying policies of section 22(e). We understand that suspending redemptions may impose hardships on investors who rely on their ability to redeem shares. Accordingly, our proposal is limited to permitting suspension of this statutory protection only in extraordinary circumstances. Thus, the proposed conditions, which are similar to those of the temporary rule, are designed to limit the availability of the rule to circumstances that present a significant risk of a run on the fund. Moreover, the exemption would require action of the fund board (including the independent directors), which would be acting in its capacity as a fiduciary. The proposed rule contains an additional provision that would permit us to take steps to protect investors. Specifically, the proposed rule would permit us to rescind or modify the relief provided by the rule (and thus require the fund to resume honoring redemptions) if, for example, a liquidating fund has not devised, or is not properly executing, a plan of liquidation that protects fund shareholders. Under this provision, the Commission may modify the relief ‘‘after appropriate notice and opportunity for hearing,’’ in accordance with section 40 of the Act."
    So, what's the upshot? If you have money in a money market savings account at your local bank, good luck getting your money back when TSHTF or any other time they decide.


    You've been warned...

  • #2
    Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

    Originally posted by bcassill View Post


    You've been warned...
    MORE than a few times, too!

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    • #3
      Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

      Originally posted by bcassill View Post
      So, what's the upshot? If you have money in a money market savings account at your local bank, good luck getting your money back when TSHTF or any other time they decide.


      You've been warned...
      i think some clarification in order.

      there are money market savings accounts and money market mutual funds. money market savings accounts are FDIC insured and are not investments in a fund.

      with a money market savings account at a local bank your counterparty risk is the bank itself. and if your account is under 100k, you get the fdic protection and your risk is effectively 0.

      with a money market fund, not only do you have counterparty risk (the entity issuing the fund) you also face the counterparty risk of the underlying debt instruments that the fund holds (like short term commercial paper )

      These are important differences and you need to understand the rules of each type of account - be careful what you label a money market.

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      • #4
        Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

        Originally posted by pescamaaan View Post
        i think some clarification in order.

        there are money market savings accounts and money market mutual funds. money market savings accounts are FDIC insured and are not investments in a fund.

        with a money market savings account at a local bank your counterparty risk is the bank itself. and if your account is under 100k, you get the fdic protection and your risk is effectively 0.

        with a money market fund, not only do you have counterparty risk (the entity issuing the fund) you also face the counterparty risk of the underlying debt instruments that the fund holds (like short term commercial paper )

        These are important differences and you need to understand the rules of each type of account - be careful what you label a money market.
        zerohedge? careful?

        if those guys were running a med site they'd report a hangnail as a decapitation.

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        • #5
          Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

          Originally posted by pescamaaan View Post
          i think some clarification in order.

          there are money market savings accounts and money market mutual funds. money market savings accounts are FDIC insured and are not investments in a fund.

          with a money market savings account at a local bank your counterparty risk is the bank itself. and if your account is under 100k, you get the fdic protection and your risk is effectively 0.

          with a money market fund, not only do you have counterparty risk (the entity issuing the fund) you also face the counterparty risk of the underlying debt instruments that the fund holds (like short term commercial paper )

          These are important differences and you need to understand the rules of each type of account - be careful what you label a money market.
          Very good point, and one that few understand. The ZH people should have made this more clear, but I suppose it wouldn't make as sensational of a story. I just called my bank to make sure my money market savings account is FDIC-insured.

          Jimmy

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          • #6
            Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

            How dare you, Metalman.

            Zero Hedge = God's website

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            • #7
              Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

              I understand you want to clarify, however if i catch wind of a dollar devaluation, and i want to pull my money out and i can't do so. I may be subject to a huge devaluation of my savings strictly because i could not move it somewhere else. SO they FDIC insuring doesn't help me much. Honestly if you are one to believe that you can rely on the FDIC to send you a check for your lost funds when things get bad, i feel sorry for you!

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              • #8
                Re: Pull Your Money From Your Money Market Savings Account...NOW!

                I think the FDIC will always be able to send you check for the nominal value of your account if it is under the FDIC limits. Just think about what would happen if they can't. Massive bank run - the end of the game.

                The fed will run the presses to make sure that checks are always available for deposits in banks. Now the purchacasing power of your deposits is another story.

                If brokerage money market accounts are shut down, how does the stock market operate?? Usually your brokerage account is tied to a mm fund.
                Shutting down the mm fund would mean no buys or sells for retail investors. Don't know how the big boys run their cash account. In the end what is money? FRN's t-bills, if mm's are illiquid, what is liquid and can be used as money to purchase stocks? Oh my brain hurts.

                Is there a danger of mm being shut down because they break the buck?
                Now that interest is near zero, there is no slack for falling bond prices. If a mm has 90day CP,
                and either the issuer blows up, or short interest rates jump, the interest payments will not cover the loss of the bond value. I know there is some accounting game that mm's have that they can value the security at maturity instead of using the daily value. This gives them cover for
                changes in interest rates, but if the issuer of the CP blows up, then
                the value at maturity is not PAR. I assume that mm's buy only short dated ultra-senior debt that would be early in line to be paid out in a bankruptcy. Oh wait I forgot that the standard bankruptcy rules no longer apply oops, talk about unintended consequences

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