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  • The Change Begins.

    It looks like the President is giving up on Geithner/Summers. Reports of Elizabeth Warren and Volcker getting more say. Again, the State of the Union could signal that Obama FINALLY gets it. But I've been here before.

    WASHINGTON—President Barack Obama on Thursday is expected to propose new limits on the size and risk taken by the country's biggest banks, marking the administration's latest assault on Wall Street in what could mark a return, at least in spirit, to some of the curbs on finance put in place during the Great Depression, according to congressional sources and administration officials.

    The past decade saw widespread consolidation among large financial institutions to create huge banking titans. If Congress approves the proposal, the White House plan could permanently impose government constraints on the size and nature of banking.

    Mr. Obama's proposal is expected to include new scale restrictions on the size of the country's largest financial institutions. The goal would be to deter banks from becoming so large they put the broader economy at risk and to also prevent banks from becoming so large they distort normal competitive forces. It couldn't be learned what precise limits the White House will endorse, or whether Mr. Obama will spell out the exact limits on Thursday.

    Mr. Obama is also expected to endorse, for the first time publicly, measures pushed by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, which would place restrictions on the proprietary trading done by commercial banks, essentially limiting the way banks bet with their own capital. Administration officials say they want to place "firewalls" between different divisions of financial companies to ensure banks don't indirectly subsidize "speculative" trading through other subsidiaries that hold federally insured deposits.

    The proposal could have the biggest effect on Bank of America Corp., Wells Fargo & Co., and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., which control a large amount of U.S. deposits, as well as Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and Citigroup Inc., which have a large presence on Wall Street.

    If the proposal took effect, big banks could be forced to wall off certain activities in their investing banking units—which trade and underwrite securities and make their own bets on markets—from their traditional businesses, which make loans and take deposits.

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    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...IDDLTopStories

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    Re: The Change Begins.

    I love Obama ... but it may be too little too late. Everybody loved Hoover. We thought Bush was Hoover. Perhaps Bush was Coolidge and Obama his Hoover.

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      Re: The Change Begins.

      with all due respect, I still do not get the Obama love-fest thing

      for goodness sakes, look at the people he has around him! Look at what is happening...

      take a look at this:

      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0S44.DTL&tsp=1

      "The company rewarded its employees with $16.2 billion in salaries and bonuses for 2009, up 47 percent from the previous year but still lower than many had expected"

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      • #4
        Re: The Change Begins.

        Originally posted by audrey_girl View Post
        with all due respect, I still do not get the Obama love-fest thing

        for goodness sakes, look at the people he has around him! Look at what is happening...

        take a look at this:

        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0S44.DTL&tsp=1

        "The company rewarded its employees with $16.2 billion in salaries and bonuses for 2009, up 47 percent from the previous year but still lower than many had expected"
        Rational arguments vs. faith-based. Forget about it :rolleyes:

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        • #5
          Re: The Change Begins.

          Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
          I love Obama ... but it may be too little too late. Everybody loved Hoover. We thought Bush was Hoover. Perhaps Bush was Coolidge and Obama his Hoover.

          What we needed was a Harding.
          Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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            up 47 percent from the previous year but still lower than many had expected"
            I would like a job like this :rolleyes:

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            • #7
              Re: The Change Begins.

              Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
              It looks like the President is giving up on Geithner/Summers. Reports of Elizabeth Warren and Volcker getting more say. Again, the State of the Union could signal that Obama FINALLY gets it. But I've been here before.


              http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...IDDLTopStories
              My first reaction: More tinkering because they are still afraid to take on the banks.

              My second reaction: When are they going to require the banks to provide financial statements that actually mean something. I have not trusted the balance sheets or income statements of any of the banks for quite some years.

              My third reaction: Little as it seems, it's hopefully a constructive sign that some real leadership is finally oozing to the surface in D.C. We'll see.

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              • #8
                Re: The Change Begins.

                It is not a "love fest" thing. Obama is a very representational man. It is a little like saying "I love America". He made his mistakes. Perhaps catastrophic ones. Sound like America?

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                  Re: The Change Begins.

                  MS 29.18 -1.45 -4.73%
                  MORGAN STANLEY
                  GS 160.25 -7.54 -4.49%
                  GOLDMAN SACHS

                  Market certainly believes Obama is serious..

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Change Begins.

                    Originally posted by Master Shake View Post
                    What we needed was a Harding.
                    Amen to that.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Change Begins.

                      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                      My first reaction: More tinkering because they are still afraid to take on the banks.

                      My second reaction: When are they going to require the banks to provide financial statements that actually mean something. I have not trusted the balance sheets or income statements of any of the banks for quite some years.

                      My third reaction: Little as it seems, it's hopefully a constructive sign that some real leadership is finally oozing to the surface in D.C. We'll see.
                      Fear and Loathing in DC.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Change Begins.

                        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                        My first reaction: More tinkering because they are still afraid to take on the banks.

                        My second reaction: When are they going to require the banks to provide financial statements that actually mean something. I have not trusted the balance sheets or income statements of any of the banks for quite some years.

                        My third reaction: Little as it seems, it's hopefully a constructive sign that some real leadership is finally oozing to the surface in D.C. We'll see.
                        How about a fourth reaction:

                        this is a cleverly timed release to push the Goldman release off the front pages and to distract people

                        nothing more, nothing less...

                        obama is still carrying water for the banks

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                          Re: The Change Begins.

                          Originally posted by audrey_girl View Post
                          How about a fourth reaction:

                          this is a cleverly timed release to push the Goldman release off the front pages and to distract people

                          nothing more, nothing less...

                          obama is still carrying water for the banks
                          LOL - That's what I said to an office-mate this morning.

                          Lots of new postings on iTulip today, and while I may have missed it, I didn't see too many people talking about this ...

                          Goldman Sachs posts $4.79-billion profit

                          Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS-N160.87-6.92-4.12%) says it earned $4.79-billion in the fourth quarter as the bank's trading business again outdistanced the rest of the financial industry.

                          The company rewarded its employees with $16.2-billion in salaries and bonuses for 2009.

                          Goldman said Wednesday it earned $8.20 a share in the last three months of the year as fixed income, commodities and currency trading buoyed its profits for the third straight quarter. Analysts surveyed by Thomson Reuters predicted Goldman would earn $5.20 a share.

                          The bank's stock rose slightly in premarket trading.

                          Goldman, which has outperformed other financial companies for years, has been the strongest bank throughout the financial crisis. It had less exposure to toxic mortgage-backed securities than other companies and also has been more aggressive in its trading.

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Change Begins.

                            Wall Street bought & paid for Obama.

                            http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli..._twice_-2.html

                            He certainly won't get a cushy job at JP Morgan like Tony Blair; one can only imagine his fate would he for a minute even think of betraying his paymasters.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Change Begins.

                              Originally posted by Yaowarat View Post
                              Wall Street bought & paid for Obama.

                              http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli..._twice_-2.html

                              He certainly won't get a cushy job at JP Morgan like Tony Blair; one can only imagine his fate would he for a minute even think of betraying his paymasters.
                              If Obama somehow got the notion he was really the president, and could turn on his backers, he would be outed in short order. To think there isn't enough Chicago dirt to bury him...well, think what you like

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