Re: Yes Virginia...It's a Bubble...
A friend just took a train from the south of China to the North. He said "Imagine taking a train from Miami to Boston and along the entire route every phase of it, 20 story high condominiums being built."
Originally posted by GRG55
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Apparently urban China property prices still going strong
Blow-off phase? Or just another normal year in the effervescent Chinese property markets because...well..."China is different"...
By Bloomberg News - Jun 17, 2013 10:57 PM MT
The investment report follows data indicating capital inflows slowed last month while growth decelerated in exports,industrial production and lending. Confidence is fading in an economic rebound this quarter, with investment banks from Morgan Stanley to Barclays Plc cutting their 2013 expansion forecasts.
Shen Danyang, a Commerce Ministry spokesman, said at a briefing today that China’s economic situation is stable while the trade situation is “grim” for this year...
...China’s property market faces the risk of a “bubble,” and it isn’t “light,” Wang Shi, chairman of China Vanke Co., the nation’s biggest developer, said at a conference in Shanghai on June 6...
The dreaded "B" word rears its ugly head again...
Blow-off phase? Or just another normal year in the effervescent Chinese property markets because...well..."China is different"...
By Bloomberg News - Jun 17, 2013 10:57 PM MT
Chinese property prices rose at the fastest pace in more than two years in major cities, defying tougher government curbs and constraining the ability of policy makers to ease credit in response to weakening economic growth.
New home prices in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou posted the biggest gains in May since at least January 2011, and 69 of the 70 cities tracked by the government showed increases, the most since August 2011, National Bureau of Statistics data showed today in Beijing. Inbound non-financial investment rose 0.3 percent in May from a year earlier, the weakest in four months, according to the Ministry of Commerce.
The property gains limit the ability of Premier Li Keqiang to counter an economic slowdown that showed signs of deepening in May. The central bank today refrained from adding cash to the financial system and money-market rates reached the highest level in seven years this month, a liquidity squeeze that Fitch Ratings says may accelerate a banking crisis.
“The government is in a dilemma right now,” said Zhang Zhiwei, Hong Kong-based chief China economist at Nomura Holdings Inc., who previously worked at the International Monetary Fund.“It’s difficult for China to tighten the property market, while it also needs to bolster the economy, which has a strong reliance on property.”
China’s one-year interest-rate swaps rose to a 21-month high today. The yuan weakened 0.1 percent, the most since June 6, to 6.1291 per dollar, as of 11:25 a.m. in Shanghai. The MSCI Asia-Pacific Index of stocks fell 0.5 percent...
...Local governments are reluctant to enforce policies aimed at cooling the housing market, Zhang said. Former Premier Wen Jiabao in March ordered central bank branches to raise down-payment requirements for second mortgages in cities with excessive cost gains and told local governments with the biggest price pressures to tighten home-purchase limits and set price-control targets.
Today’s data showed the southern city of Guangzhou posted the biggest gain with prices rising 15 percent from a year earlier. Beijing prices climbed 12 percent, while they advanced 10 percent in Shanghai. All three cities had their biggest advance since the government changed its methodology for the data in January 2011.
The only decline in new home prices last month was in the eastern city of Wenzhou, where they fell 3.6 percent from a year earlier, according to the data.
Home prices in China had the biggest quarterly gain among 55 countries globally in the first three months of the year, based on Beijing and Shanghai prices, broker Knight Frank LLP said in an e-mailed report yesterday...
...Agricultural Development Bank of China Co. scaled back the size of two bond offerings today by 31 percent after the Finance Ministry failed to sell all of the debt offered at an auction for the first time in 23 months last week.
“We are starting to see some issues emerging” in liquidity, Charlene Chu, Fitch’s head of China financial institutions, said in an interview today with Zeb Eckert on Bloomberg Television in Hong Kong...
New home prices in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou posted the biggest gains in May since at least January 2011, and 69 of the 70 cities tracked by the government showed increases, the most since August 2011, National Bureau of Statistics data showed today in Beijing. Inbound non-financial investment rose 0.3 percent in May from a year earlier, the weakest in four months, according to the Ministry of Commerce.
The property gains limit the ability of Premier Li Keqiang to counter an economic slowdown that showed signs of deepening in May. The central bank today refrained from adding cash to the financial system and money-market rates reached the highest level in seven years this month, a liquidity squeeze that Fitch Ratings says may accelerate a banking crisis.
“The government is in a dilemma right now,” said Zhang Zhiwei, Hong Kong-based chief China economist at Nomura Holdings Inc., who previously worked at the International Monetary Fund.“It’s difficult for China to tighten the property market, while it also needs to bolster the economy, which has a strong reliance on property.”
China’s one-year interest-rate swaps rose to a 21-month high today. The yuan weakened 0.1 percent, the most since June 6, to 6.1291 per dollar, as of 11:25 a.m. in Shanghai. The MSCI Asia-Pacific Index of stocks fell 0.5 percent...
...Local governments are reluctant to enforce policies aimed at cooling the housing market, Zhang said. Former Premier Wen Jiabao in March ordered central bank branches to raise down-payment requirements for second mortgages in cities with excessive cost gains and told local governments with the biggest price pressures to tighten home-purchase limits and set price-control targets.
Today’s data showed the southern city of Guangzhou posted the biggest gain with prices rising 15 percent from a year earlier. Beijing prices climbed 12 percent, while they advanced 10 percent in Shanghai. All three cities had their biggest advance since the government changed its methodology for the data in January 2011.
The only decline in new home prices last month was in the eastern city of Wenzhou, where they fell 3.6 percent from a year earlier, according to the data.
Home prices in China had the biggest quarterly gain among 55 countries globally in the first three months of the year, based on Beijing and Shanghai prices, broker Knight Frank LLP said in an e-mailed report yesterday...
...Agricultural Development Bank of China Co. scaled back the size of two bond offerings today by 31 percent after the Finance Ministry failed to sell all of the debt offered at an auction for the first time in 23 months last week.
“We are starting to see some issues emerging” in liquidity, Charlene Chu, Fitch’s head of China financial institutions, said in an interview today with Zeb Eckert on Bloomberg Television in Hong Kong...
...Inbound non-financial investment increased to $9.26 billion, the Ministry of Commerce said today in Beijing, after a 0.4 percent gain in April. China’s outbound investment rose 20 percent in the first five months of the year to $34.3 billion, compared with a 27.4 percent pace in January-April.
The investment report follows data indicating capital inflows slowed last month while growth decelerated in exports,industrial production and lending. Confidence is fading in an economic rebound this quarter, with investment banks from Morgan Stanley to Barclays Plc cutting their 2013 expansion forecasts.
Shen Danyang, a Commerce Ministry spokesman, said at a briefing today that China’s economic situation is stable while the trade situation is “grim” for this year...
...China’s property market faces the risk of a “bubble,” and it isn’t “light,” Wang Shi, chairman of China Vanke Co., the nation’s biggest developer, said at a conference in Shanghai on June 6...
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