André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

In examining propagandamatrix.com a few minutes, it seems to follow the Jackson Pollock technique of crime scene photographic evidence collection:

That is to say, it throws a whole bunch of tin-foil-hat conspiracy stuff against the canvas to see what will stick.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that it is on such dubious sites that useful evidence and observation is most often allowed to exist, discredited by all the misinformation, lies and deceptions surrounding it. One is left to solve a crime only after the perpetrator has had a chance to seriously foul the crime scene with false leads and to remove useful evidence.

Such work becomes more of a Rorschach test of ones own personality than it does anything resembling a scientific study.

Such discrediting of any bits of truth that do leak out by guilt of association with paranoid lies and pathalogical nonsense is one of the techniques that TPTB deliberately use to cover their tracks. Your faithful correspondent, TheParanoidCow, is honored and blessed to have the opportunity to sort through such trash .

[Starving Steve]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

The London Daily Mail is a newspaper of the highest quality, at least on a par with The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post in America, and The Toronto Globe and Mail in Canada.

Once again, the top story of the day (Feb 14th), is that one of the leading man-made global warming proponents claims to have lost the relevant evidence to support the Al Gore's hypothesis. Professor Phil Jones of East Anglia University's Climate Research Unit now admits that the Earth has not warmed since 1995.

Teachers in public schools worldwide should make copies of this story, "Climategate U-turn", from The London Daily Mail because it shows what real science is as opposed to the group-think that led to Al Gore's Nobel Prize and the recent Copenhagen Summit on so-called, "anthropogenic climate change".

[Starving Steve]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

Critcal-thinking, checking, and re-checking findings or assumptions in science are a key part of the scientific method. This is the lesson for kids to learn.

Al Gore's AGW hypothesis was never seriously questioned, at least until now. And now under the United Kingdom's Freedom of Information Act, the evidence to support the AGW hypothesis is not being produced. (Professor Phil Jones claims to have lost the evidence in his office.)

[llanlad2]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

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The London Daily Mail is a newspaper of the highest quality, at least on a par with The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and The Washington Post in America, and The Toronto Globe and Mail in Canada.

ROFL- That has got to be a wind up right?! (unless those other papers are also toilet paper)

The Daily Mail (nicknamed by some as the Daily Hate) is a populist right-wing tabloid newspaper with an anti-everything stance unless you are English, white and married. Reading it would have you believe that the UK is on the verge of adopting Sharia Law and that most of the UKs problems could be solved by booting out scrounging foreigners,single mums and under 25s.
It supported the Nazis in the 1930s and hasn't moved much further left since then.

[Starving Steve]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

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ROFL- That has got to be a wind up right?! (unless those other papers are also toilet paper)

The Daily Mail (nicknamed by some as the Daily Hate) is a populist right-wing tabloid newspaper with an anti-everything stance unless you are English, white and married. Reading it would have you believe that the UK is on the verge of adopting Sharia Law and that most of the UKs problems could be solved by booting out scrounging foreigners,single mums and under 25s.
It supported the Nazis in the 1930s and hasn't moved much further left since then.

May I remind you that it was under this Gordon Brown govn't in the UK that a rogue judge in Scotland was allowed to release the Lockarbie bomber, and to a hero's welcome in Libya, no less. America wasn't even consulted on the release, which was a slap in the face to the U.S. State Department, not to mention highly extra-ordinary.

The Gordon Brown govn't has also been tolerant of the BBC which is openly pro-Islamist, so much so that protestors in Tehran held signs up protesting the BBC and its pro-Arminishod bias. And these same protestors were executed one month later (in June, 2009) in Tehran, lest we forget.

So why would it be an exaggeration to opine in The Daily Mail that the UK may well be on the verge of adopting Sharia Law? :rolleyes:

[llanlad2]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

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May I remind you that it was under this Gordon Brown govn't in the UK that a rogue judge in Scotland was allowed to release the Lockarbie bomber, and to a hero's welcome in Libya, no less. America wasn't even consulted on the release, which was a slap in the face to the U.S. State Department, not to mention highly extra-ordinary.

The Gordon Brown govn't has also been tolerant of the BBC which is openly pro-Islamist, so much so that protestors in Tehran held signs up protesting the BBC and its pro-Arminishod bias. And these same protestors were executed one month later (in June, 2009) in Tehran, lest we forget.

So why would it be an exaggeration to opine in The Daily Mail that the UK may well be on the verge of adopting Sharia Law? :rolleyes:

So our idiot Prime Minister releases a bomber for political reasons = Sharia Law is imminent=The Daily Mail is a quality newspaper.

Like the Daily Mail rather than addressing my assertion that the Daily Mail is not a world respected quality newspaper you respond with a straw man argument regarding the BBC and Gordon Brown.

The Daily Mail is the same every day. Hateful. It incites others to hate others. Funnily enough it never incites hatred of bankers, fat cat CEOs and the aristocracy. Maybe it's because its owner is Viscount Rothermere a billionaire who resides outside of the UK for tax reasons.

[Starving Steve]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

You may well be right about the quality of the news reporting in The London Daily Mail. But I thought the reporting of the story in "Climategate U-turn" was superior, especially when I compare that investigative reporting to the reporting in most American and most Canadian newspapers. Again, I am an ocean away in North America, and I don't read the UK papers every day. So I am the wrong person to judge.

From what I have seen of the UK papers, I think they are superb.

From what I have seen of the Gordon Brown government, I am aghast. Some strange transformation of the UK has occurred, comparing the UK to what it was post-WWII to what it is now. Even comparing the UK under Margaret Thatcher to the UK under Gordon Brown is a shocker, like comparing day to night.

It seems to me that there may be Islamists setting the agenda and the priorities of the UK Govn't. Either that, or there may be appeasers in the UK Govn't--- maybe appeasers who believe that a pro-Arminishod UK Government and pro-Gidaffi UK Government would help British Petroleum's earnings..... Either way, Islamists or appeasers making policy, Sharia Law just might be coming next in the UK. The comment in The Daily Mail hit the nail on its head.

[leegs]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

You may well be right about the quality of the news reporting in The London Daily Mail. But I thought the reporting of the story in "Climategate U-turn" was superior

So what you are saying is that the quality and reliability of a source is completely irrelevant unless the source says something that you already happen to agree with?

You are certainly in good company with this approach, but it is yet another good illustration of the quality and reliability of you as a source.

[Starving Steve]

Re: André Diederen, Global Resource Depletion: A roadmap towards sustainability?

So what you are saying is that the quality and reliability of a source is completely irrelevant unless the source says something that you already happen to agree with?

You are certainly in good company with this approach, but it is yet another good illustration of the quality and reliability of you as a source.

I like a newspaper, tabloid or not, that does investigative-reporting. In the case of "Climategate U-turn", The London Daily Mail spent the time and effort to follow-up on Delingpole's "Climategate" revelations published about three weeks ago in The London Times. Other newspapers and news sources have just done nothing, as if there was nothing more to be done.

The Daily Mail through the Freedom of Information Act and apparently through a court order served Prof. Paul Jones with a demand for supporting information that would support the man-made global warming (AGW) hypothesis that the Earth's climate has warmed since 1995. Prof. Jones said that he had such supporting information, and so the Copenhagen Summit was held. "The issue was settled," according to Al Gore and Greenpeace, even according to Obama and to NASA, even according to the UN, not to mention the Sierra Club, Dr. David Sazuki, the New Zealand Climate Research Centre, and the East Anglia University Climate Research Unit.

And then when served, this good professor had no evidence to support his allegation. He claimed to have lost the evidence. He then changed his story about global climate change and admitted that the Earth's climate has not warmed since 1995.

Yet Copenhagen was held, even if the entire world's economy might be sabotaged. But the evidence of a take-off in global warming was false; it did not exist. Still, the inertia of Copenhagen was unsurmountable.

But the other news sources buried the story. They did nothing. Copenhagen was the news, not Delingpole's revelations.

Whether a tabloid or not, The London Daily Mail continued to investigate. And that is the hallmark of a fine paper in the finest tradition of British newspapers.

And what did BBC do? It continued with false news about sea level increases that didn't exist and continued with staged film-segments of people in Mauritius standing on a submerged sand bar, as if they lived like that. ( Thus, twice a day, time-out for the high tide and the BBC film crew in Mauritius.:rolleyes: ) And people watching BBC worldwide believed it!

No mind that the sea level was not rising anywhere in the world, the people believed that the sea level was flooding Mauritius and flooding Holland too, and "the issue was settled". Why would Al Gore lie? Why would BBC lie? Here were the actual pictures of polar bears swimming and people standing in sea-water on Mauritius. It was on the TV worldwide.... So, on to Copenhagen and the carbon summit.

No mind that climate stations worldwide showed no change in their mean annual temperatures over a thirty year average. "The issue was settled." How could scientists worldwide be wrong?