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  • Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

    Vientos de Guerra: Venezuela destruyen dos puentes en la frontera con Colombia

    Vientos de Guerra soplan en el Continente

    Una guerra en el pulmón del mundo

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    Much talk of war in South America... que sera?

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    Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

    For the Nobel Prize Winner, child's play.

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      Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

      the US lost control of venezuelan oil and is busy training columbian forces to bring back democracy and capitalism to venezuela, how surprising, the story is as old as america.

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        Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

        From what I've read it's another chapter in the long running SA soap opera called "posturing for the electorate." Flare ups between Ecuador a couple of years ago. I think Uribe is up for re-election. Chavez needs to distract from his recent economic gaffes. So rattle 'em if you've got 'em.

        The idea of Columbia going to the OAS about this is kind of funny: the proximate cause of (excuse for) Chavez's belligerant attitude is Uribe's welcoming of expanded US bases (after leases were not renewed by Ecuador.) This was condemned vehemently by the whole OAS save Columbia of course.

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          I just love Hugo Chavez. He's such a clown. He's much more entertaining to watch than any of the politicians we have stateside. I honestly think the man deserves his own TV program. We could call it the "Hugo Chavez Hour." It would be great. He could come out with his face paint and his cute little red nose and go on and on about Imperialist Gringos while tossing pies at the audience. Now that would be something I would pay to watch.

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            Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

            Originally posted by bcassill View Post
            I just love Hugo Chavez. He's such a clown. He's much more entertaining to watch than any of the politicians we have stateside. I honestly think the man deserves his own TV program. We could call it the "Hugo Chavez Hour." It would be great. He could come out with his face paint and his cute little red nose and go on and on about Imperialist Gringos while tossing pies at the audience. Now that would be something I would pay to watch.
            He has his own network, from what I hear. Though he doesn't dress the part--he tries to play an "average, mild-mannered dictator."

            It seems iTulip is slow. My Brazilian friend caught word of the winds of war blowing a month and a half ago. I should have posted then, I suppose.

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              Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

              Originally posted by bcassill View Post
              ... I would pay to watch.
              No need, you can see a preview for free here.

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                Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

                Originally posted by marvenger View Post
                the US lost control of venezuelan oil and is busy training columbian forces to bring back democracy and capitalism to venezuela, how surprising, the story is as old as america.
                were you expecting CHANGE? ;)

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                  Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

                  Simple minds always equivocate elected leaders to dictators. I know so many people in America who think that George Bush is a dictator too.

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                    Re: Winds of War in South America? Venezuela vs. Colombia...

                    FWIW there's a good doc by Frontline called "The Chavez Show" here:

                    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hugochavez/

                    There's enough in the program to give anyone who admires Orwell's insights into politics a great deal of pause.

                    But the key moment in the doc to me was what Teodoro Petkoff (who ran against Chavez in 2006) says: basically, Chavez has changed Venezuelan politics permanently by harnessing the power of the poor who had been - in his telling - successfully marginalised by the political process.

                    To me the fact that his critics will have to address themselves to this audience in order to regain power is an improvement in the country's civil society whatever one thinks of Chavez on other counts.

                    There's also a very funny blog called borev which I really think is worth a look. It makes no bones about its politics - pro Chavez - but really just addresses itself to demonstrating how off-kilter western coverage of South America is.

                    http://www.borev.net/

                    That this is so easy to do and, much of the time, the results in journalistic terms are so laughable I think pretty much vindicates the site's thesis if not its pro-Chavez stance.

                    The best anti-Chavez site I've found so far is called "The Devil's Excrement":

                    http://devilsexcrement.com/

                    But even here the writer laments the anti-Chavez media's exaggerations (such as the charge that he's a dictator) as undercutting their credibility and pleads with his fellow critics to stop making sh!t up: what Chavez is actually guilty of in his eyes is enough.

                    Any reco on other resources welcome.

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