Population control called key to deal

[flintlock]

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Growth advocates=Mathematics deniers!

[Rajiv]

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Kadriana, you will like these two reports

Family Planning and Economic Well-Being: New Evidence From Bangladesh, Interview With Jay Gribble

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(June 2009) Family planning is one of the most cost-effective health interventions in the developing world. For decades, research has shown that for a relatively modest investment, family planning saves lives and improves maternal and child health. However, there have been relatively few studies that detail the ways in which family planning also lifts families out of poverty by helping poor women have fewer children. Now, a new study on Bangladesh provides evidence that long-term investment in an integrated family planning and maternal and child health (FPMCH) program contributes to improved economic security for families, households, and communities through larger incomes, greater accumulation of wealth, and higher levels of education. PRB's policy brief, Family Planning and Economic Well-Being: New Evidence From Bangladesh, indicates that family planning and maternal-child health services help reduce poverty, the first goal of the Millennium Development Goals.

In this interview, Jay Gribble, vice president of International Programs at PRB and a co-author of the brief, discusses how the FPMCH program benefitted women and families in the Matlab area villages in terms of livelihoods, health, and education, as well as the policy implications of the recent study's findings.

The Fight Against 'Honor Killings': Interview With Investigative Journalist Rana Husseini

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(November 2009) It is estimated that 5,000 women worldwide are murdered every year in so-called "honor killings"—committed by a woman's relatives in order to cleanse the family of acts the woman has engaged in that they consider "immoral." Feminist and human rights defender, Jordanian Rana Husseini is a leading international investigative journalist whose reporting has put violence against women on the public agenda around the world. Husseini began covering this issue in September 1993 when she was a journalist covering the crime beat for The Jordan Times and noticed that the local media was not reporting these murders, the court cases, or on the women who were imprisoned without charge or trial. Since then, she has followed every case she has heard of and reported it in the paper. She has investigated the practice on her own, counting the number of annual cases and keeping a detailed list. She is the author of the book Murder in the Name of Honor: The True Story of One Woman’s Heroic Fight Against an Unbelievable Crime, which chronicles the cases of these killings.

The recipient of numerous awards for bravery in journalism, she is a regular speaker at major international events. In this interview, Husseini describes her personal journey of investigating this practice over the years, the varied countries and cultures in which "honor killings" take place, and what types of policy and grassroots efforts are needed to address this abuse.

[Starving Steve]

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Growth advocates=Mathematics deniers!

We need growth, and we can grow in ways that do not harm the planet.
For examples: 1) We can have atomic power plants because atomic power doesn't produce CO2. And we can have hydro-electric power because hydro-electric power doesn't produce CO2 either; 2.) We can have high density cities but with green space around apartment towers. We can have cities that grow outward along transit lines, however far they need to grow, and that wouldn't be urban sprawl; 3.) We can build subdivisions set into forests without cutting down the trees; 4.) We can divert rivers, build reservoirs, and de-salinate seawater to help solve the water problem in arid regions; 5.) We can drive fuel efficient cars, and planners shouldn't punish car drivers with 30KPH speed limits, speed traps, and outrageous parking costs.

[Rajiv]

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Steve, you should factor in some of Heinberg's ideas into your thinking.

Read -- Peak Everything

Peak Everything

Note: This issue is an edited version of the Introduction to Peak Everything: Waking Up to the Century of Declines.

During the past few years the phrase Peak Oil has entered the global lexicon. It refers to the moment in time when the world will achieve its maximum possible rate of oil extraction; from then on, for reasons having mostly to do with geology, the amount of petroleum available to society on a daily or yearly basis will begin to dwindle. Most informed analysts agree that this will happen during the next two or three decades; an increasing number believe that it is happening now - that conventional oil production peaked in 2005–2006 and that the flow to market of all hydrocarbon liquids taken together will start to diminish around 2010.1 The consequences, as they begin to accumulate, are likely to be severe: the world is overwhelmingly dependent on oil for transportation, agriculture, plastics, and chemicals; thus a lengthy process of adjustment will be required. According to one recent U.S. government-sponsored study, if the peak does occur soon replacements are unlikely to appear quickly enough and in sufficient quantity to avert what it calls "unprecedented" social, political, and economic impacts.2

This book is not an introduction to the subject of Peak Oil; several existing volumes serve that function (including my own The Party's Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies).3 Instead it addresses the social and historical context in which the event is occurring, and explores how we can reorganize our thinking and action in several critical areas in order to better navigate this perilous time.

Our socio-historical context takes some time and perspective to appreciate. Upon first encountering Peak Oil, most people tend to assume it is merely a single isolated problem to which there is a simple solution - whether of an eco-friendly nature (more renewable energy) or otherwise (more coal). But prolonged reflection and study tend to eat away at the viability of such "solutions"; meanwhile, as one contemplates how we humans have so quickly become so deeply dependent on the cheap, concentrated energy of oil and other fossil fuels, it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that we have caught ourselves on the horns of the Universal Ecological Dilemma, consisting of the interlinked elements of population pressure, resource depletion, and habitat destruction - and on a scale unprecedented in history.

Petroleum is not the only important resource quickly depleting.
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[ggirod]

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Thanks, Rajiv, for posting this link - it is the best statement of the problem we face, and, of course, no problem can be solved without definition.

I am very tired of solutions being proposed for part of a problem that has never been defined or analyzed in considering the solution. This contribution keeps people focused on thinking about the whole mess.

[tofu2u2]

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Many of our problems have the same root cause: too many monkeys on the rock.

Too true.

rabat10: I agree but this is one hard one to handle. Who is going to make that kind of choise?

Many women like me have made that kind of choice and I am angry that so many other people WON'T make that kind of choice. In fact, Im to the point that I WON'T make any more contributions to any religous based charity organizations because to my knowledge, there isn't any religous organization that encourages population control.

There are a LOT of boomer women like me doing a slow smouldering anger about this issue, we get angrier as we get older. As we get older, we vote more consistantly. God help the next generation when the old angry boomer chicks form a voting bloc that makes the Dixiecrats of the late 1940s look like liberals.

[charliebrown]

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any religion who treats or promotes the idea of women as property has to do a reset. Also religions who encourage having many children as some kind of contest, obligation to be a good wife, treat children as a status symbol need to be reset too.

Religion must emphasize that all people are equal in God's eyes, and that human beings are sacred. Some families do very well raising children, disciplining them, loving them putting in the time etc. They should have lots of children. Other people don't want kids, or shouldn't have them. I dont know how a beauracracy can decide who gets kids and who doesn't. Cash or other incentives for not having children? :-) I don't want a law saying one child. Obviously from my views above shoving the old and infirm into an oven is not supported either.

I have two kids and every hour I am not at work, I spend with them. One bio, one adopted from the 3rd world. Maybe adoption is one part of the answer to the problem. I do think we are approaching the too many monkeys on the rock point. yes maybe one day we will develop clean energy etc and be able to expand more, but with the status quo in resource utilization, I fear some disruption will cause a war and or mass starvation.

[sishya]

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Too true.



Many women like me have made that kind of choice and I am angry that so many other people WON'T make that kind of choice. In fact, Im to the point that I WON'T make any more contributions to any religous based charity organizations because to my knowledge, there isn't any religous organization that encourages population control.

There are a LOT of boomer women like me doing a slow smouldering anger about this issue, we get angrier as we get older. As we get older, we vote more consistantly. God help the next generation when the old angry boomer chicks form a voting bloc that makes the Dixiecrats of the late 1940s look like liberals.

This miniscule population of world women who have made
this bad choice against thieir very own Biological instincts
are feeling bitter. They are feeling the pain of natural
personal extinction and get out of this "sour grapes" mentality

[sishya]

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That is in fact a Population catastrophe -- imagine 1 of every 3 friends and relations getting killed over a short period of time. Think again if you think you will be insulated from the effects of that!

I do not like to finger point but this whole idea of population
control is lunacy and the proponents will be partly responsible
for making a lot of middle aged childless women bitter in
their latter life. Did any of these people ask their mother's
why they were given birth to?

It looks like the more we get educated, the more crazy
we become.

[Starving Steve]

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Outlaw divorce. That would solve many of the problems in to-day's society including: poverty, unhappiness, living alone, gang warfare, social unrest, homo-sexuality, a-sexuality, over-sexuality, substance abuse, living costs, divorce costs, among other problems.

[shiny!]

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This miniscule population of world women who have made
this bad choice against thieir very own Biological instincts
are feeling bitter. They are feeling the pain of natural
personal extinction and get out of this "sour grapes" mentality

So, you know this for a fact about me, how exactly? You're an expert on me and every other individual woman? You lump women into a pile and say you know what's best for all of us, you know how we all feel, and we all feel alike?

Sweeping generalizations are fallacious no matter which conclusion they espouse. In my 9th grade English class, back in the age of the dinosaurs, we studied how to identify propaganda techniques. "Sweeping generalizations" were right there on the list.

Depersonalization when it comes to women and our reproduction runs amok in the severe population control crowd, as well as in the keep us barefoot and pregnant crowd.

[Starving Steve]

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I think pregnant women are not only happier and more affectionate, they probably are healthier too. This might also explain why women survive longer than men.

Keeping women barefoot and pregnant might not solve the population problem on Earth, but who cares? In the short-run, the marriage institution relieves a myriad of mankind's pressing social and economic problems..... Let the environmentalists and the feminists be damned.

"In the long-run, we are all dead." (John Maynard Keynes)

[we_are_toast]

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It looks like the more we get educated, the more crazy
we become.

Huh? :confused::eek:

[tallone]

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Who would want to sustain a world that doesn't love children? I already find it frustrating to live in this world where women dump their precious babies in daycare so that they can work in the FIRE industry. If they stayed home to love and nurture their children, they could get rid of that fancy car. Also, do those toxic fake nails and that bleached hair contribute to the problem (not that I believe the global warming propaganda.) I hope the world has not already aborted the next great scientist.

[shiny!]

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Keeping women barefoot and pregnant might not solve the population problem on Earth, but who cares?

Perhaps the women who don't have a say in the matter.