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  • Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

    Well, it seems Suzie agrees with Shelia Bair that the FDIC insurance fund is sound and that you should put deposits into FDIC insured bank accounts.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/zer...es-blue-blazer

    Remember this is the same Suzie Orman that said "BUY QQQQ" at NDAQ 5000 level...

    And the same Suzie Orman who said "Buy a house or even a second house for the price appreciation and tax advantages" in 2006?

    WHEN SUZIE ORMAN says "BUY GOLD" it will be time to reconsider holding (notice I didn't say sell) because THIS TIME, it's different folks.

    http://www.kitco.com/ind/schoon/nov242009.html

    "The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled.
    John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ), former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in Money: Whence it came, where it went (1975).
    JK Galbraith’s statement that complexity is used by modern economics to confuse the truth about money is a fact. Simply put, bankers replaced money with credit and debt in order to profit by the indebting of others. It’s why bankers are now so rich. It is also why others are now so poor."


    "Two powerful forces, paper money and gold, are now locked in mortal combat. The combatants, however, are proxies for far more fundamental forces. Paper money is a proxy for private banking and government power—and gold is a proxy for freedom."

    "
    Against the formidable opposition of central banks and Western governments, the price of gold has more than quadrupled in ten years. The forward selling of unmined gold by large gold mining companies in collusion with central bank gold leasing did much to constrain gold’s advance but the power of its intractable rise should be seen in the light of that opposition.
    Currently, the fall of the US dollar is currently pushing gold to new highs. Tomorrow it will be the fall of the pound, the euro or the yen that will do so. The fraud of paper money is being exposed and it is only a matter of time until the global edifice of credit and debt it supports will collapse.
    In The Great Wave (Oxford University Press 1996), Professor David Hackett Fisher, an economic historian, tells of the great waves that periodically destroy existing epochs to make way for the new and better eras that follow.
    Such waves, Professor Fisher found, always culminate in total economic collapse. We are nearing the end of what Fisher believes is perhaps history’s greatest wave; and yet, the economy is still standing (though currently quite wobbly). Since great waves last from 80 to 120 years and this wave began in 1896, it means an economic collapse is imminent."

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    Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

    Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
    Well, it seems Suzie agrees with Shelia Bair that the FDIC insurance fund is sound and that you should put deposits into FDIC insured bank accounts.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/article/zer...es-blue-blazer

    Remember this is the same Suzie Orman that said "BUY QQQQ" at NDAQ 5000 level...

    And the same Suzie Orman who said "Buy a house or even a second house for the price appreciation and tax advantages" in 2006?

    WHEN SUZIE ORMAN says "BUY GOLD" it will be time to reconsider holding (notice I didn't say sell) because THIS TIME, it's different folks.

    http://www.kitco.com/ind/schoon/nov242009.html

    "The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled.
    John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ), former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in Money: Whence it came, where it went (1975).
    JK Galbraith’s statement that complexity is used by modern economics to confuse the truth about money is a fact. Simply put, bankers replaced money with credit and debt in order to profit by the indebting of others. It’s why bankers are now so rich. It is also why others are now so poor."


    "Two powerful forces, paper money and gold, are now locked in mortal combat. The combatants, however, are proxies for far more fundamental forces. Paper money is a proxy for private banking and government power—and gold is a proxy for freedom."

    "
    Against the formidable opposition of central banks and Western governments, the price of gold has more than quadrupled in ten years. The forward selling of unmined gold by large gold mining companies in collusion with central bank gold leasing did much to constrain gold’s advance but the power of its intractable rise should be seen in the light of that opposition.
    Currently, the fall of the US dollar is currently pushing gold to new highs. Tomorrow it will be the fall of the pound, the euro or the yen that will do so. The fraud of paper money is being exposed and it is only a matter of time until the global edifice of credit and debt it supports will collapse.
    In The Great Wave (Oxford University Press 1996), Professor David Hackett Fisher, an economic historian, tells of the great waves that periodically destroy existing epochs to make way for the new and better eras that follow.
    Such waves, Professor Fisher found, always culminate in total economic collapse. We are nearing the end of what Fisher believes is perhaps history’s greatest wave; and yet, the economy is still standing (though currently quite wobbly). Since great waves last from 80 to 120 years and this wave began in 1896, it means an economic collapse is imminent."
    Thanks for posting this, Jtabeb. I can now get currency for the few measly Bonars I still have in a bank money market account -
    and keep my checking balance as close to zero as is feasible.

    You are right about it being "different this time". It's not simply inflation that we are looking at,
    but quite likely a TOTAL systemic collapse.

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    • #3
      Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

      Originally posted by Raz View Post
      Thanks for posting this, Jtabeb. I can now get currency for the few measly Bonars I still have in a bank money market account -
      and keep my checking balance as close to zero as is feasible.

      You are right about it being "different this time". It's not simply inflation that we are looking at,
      but quite likely a TOTAL systemic collapse.
      Every now and then I've joked that I've become "more jtabeb" in my thinking. I'm starting to worry it's not joke-worthy anymore. Sheesh -- are things so bad that the governments are *willingly* tempting such an implosion?

      I'm curious to hear EJ's view on this. For a long time he was on the opinion he wasn't worried about serious hyperinflation or an implosion in the US. Then we got the hyperinflation -- maybe posting. If there is one weakness of EJ's it's that he sometimes *underestimates* the downside (and with the rebound).

      EJ thinks logically, the markets are behaving anything but.

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      • #4
        Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

        Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
        Every now and then I've joked that I've become "more jtabeb" in my thinking. I'm starting to worry it's not joke-worthy anymore. Sheesh -- are things so bad that the governments are *willingly* tempting such an implosion?

        I'm curious to hear EJ's view on this. For a long time he was on the opinion he wasn't worried about serious hyperinflation or an implosion in the US. Then we got the hyperinflation -- maybe posting. If there is one weakness of EJ's it's that he sometimes *underestimates* the downside (and with the rebound).

        EJ thinks logically, the markets are behaving anything but.
        I agree. I've also become more "Jtabeb" over the past six or seven months.

        Part of it has to do with the manifestly obvious incompetence and criminality of the Obama administration. As soon as the Bush Criminals leave town (Paulson & Company), he reappoints "Banana Ben" and travels back in time to pull criminals from the Klinton administration (Summers & Company), while paying little attention to one Democrat who was a fine public servant (Volcker).

        Obama may sound intelligent, but his knowledge of economics and dealing with foreigners is no better than Bush's.
        (His arrogance is probably safer for us, however, since he doesn't appear anxious to march around the world and "kick sum ass".)
        On that score McCain probably would have been worse than Bush!

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          Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

          Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
          Every now and then I've joked that I've become "more jtabeb" in my thinking. I'm starting to worry it's not joke-worthy anymore. Sheesh -- are things so bad that the governments are *willingly* tempting such an implosion?

          I'm curious to hear EJ's view on this. For a long time he was on the opinion he wasn't worried about serious hyperinflation or an implosion in the US. Then we got the hyperinflation -- maybe posting. If there is one weakness of EJ's it's that he sometimes *underestimates* the downside (and with the rebound).

          EJ thinks logically, the markets are behaving anything but.

          iTulip has underestimated the impact from China, at least for the rebound.

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          • #6
            Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

            Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
            Every now and then I've joked that I've become "more jtabeb" in my thinking. I'm starting to worry it's not joke-worthy anymore. Sheesh -- are things so bad that the governments are *willingly* tempting such an implosion?
            My "jtabeb" moment was back in May - posted right here.

            That was when the Gov't decided Corporate Bonds was an asset class they were also willing to destroy.

            So yes - they seem to be willingly tempting such an implosion. :eek:

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            • #7
              Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

              Originally posted by Fiat Currency View Post
              My "jtabeb" moment was back in May - posted right here.

              That was when the Gov't decided Corporate Bonds was an asset class they were also willing to destroy.

              So yes - they seem to be willingly tempting such an implosion. :eek:
              Well, I'm heading 1/3 jtabeb. Definitely upped the PMs, but I haven't gone guns and food yet (I have emergency supplies, but I'm not stockpiling).

              Although I may review that 100 things in a crisis posting I did awhile back again.

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              • #8
                Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
                Well, I'm heading 1/3 jtabeb. Definitely upped the PMs, but I haven't gone guns and food yet (I have emergency supplies, but I'm not stockpiling).

                Although I may review that 100 things in a crisis posting I did awhile back again.
                I bought a 1 year supply of toilet paper after reading that one. Good POST! (Okay, really just how many 12 pack rolls I could fit in my car, but still... Good Post)
                Last edited by jtabeb; November 24, 2009, 04:20 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                  Originally posted by jtabeb View Post
                  I bought a 1 year supply of toilet paper after reading that one. Good POST! (Okay, really just how many 12 pack rolls I could fit in my car, but still... Good Post)
                  It's all in how you fold it; properly done, a 12 pack could last years.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                    Originally posted by dummass View Post
                    It's all in how you fold it; properly done, a 12 pack could last years.
                    I liked dmitri orlov's comments on prepping for a collapse: high-energy cost "essentials"/luxuries. razors (i have a life-time supply for like $100 bucks at costco), condoms (rotate stock), medicines (ditto). toilet paper is always good. soap: yardstick of civilization. In a total economic collapse there still might be food (gov't cheese) but everything fancy will be black market. Goods talk.

                    I have all my for-trade liquor bottles wrapped in toilet paper. I went jtabeb about 5 years ago. Peak oil: run the numbers and run for the hills. I'm more of an urban warrior, so stockpiling food isn't really all that effective. Better to be mobile. There are a lot of kitchen cup-boards where i'm at.

                    As for artificial collapse (ala what you guys are talking here) or even collapse-collapse, I've shifted back away from the jtabeb-position since 2005. Before you get to Road Warrior you have to go through mad max, and that could be decades of low-level decline. for as off-kilter as kunstler is sometimes, that phrase, long emergency, is in my estimation, perfect. like jtabeb says: relax... even if you think the world is ending (my addition)

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                      Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                      I'm just a bumpkin, but I don't think the fed gvt, will allow the FDIC go broke, that would be the end. My theory is that the FDIC will produce some bonds to fund their needs, then the Fed reserve, or some other gvt agencies like SSA, pension funds etc. will buy them. It will cause inflation, so the purchasing power of your money will go down, but the nominal value will not, and that is all that matters to the sheeple.

                      With this implicit gurantee is it better for the retail investor to hold 100K in CD's at a good bank, than to hold T'bills with 0% return??
                      Should the itulip postion be 30% PM, 70% short term CD's, or bank money market accounts? A good bank will pay me .2% on a 3 month CD. Some retail banks are offering insured money market accounts at 1% interest.

                      I have been using this web site to asses whether a bank is solid or not.

                      http://banktracker.investigativerepo...hop.org/banks/

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                      • #12
                        Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                        Originally posted by Verdred View Post
                        I liked dmitri orlov's comments on prepping for a collapse: high-energy cost "essentials"/luxuries. razors (i have a life-time supply for like $100 bucks at costco), condoms (rotate stock), medicines (ditto). toilet paper is always good. soap: yardstick of civilization. In a total economic collapse there still might be food (gov't cheese) but everything fancy will be black market. Goods talk.

                        I have all my for-trade liquor bottles wrapped in toilet paper. I went jtabeb about 5 years ago. Peak oil: run the numbers and run for the hills. I'm more of an urban warrior, so stockpiling food isn't really all that effective. Better to be mobile. There are a lot of kitchen cup-boards where i'm at.

                        As for artificial collapse (ala what you guys are talking here) or even collapse-collapse, I've shifted back away from the jtabeb-position since 2005. Before you get to Road Warrior you have to go through mad max, and that could be decades of low-level decline. for as off-kilter as kunstler is sometimes, that phrase, long emergency, is in my estimation, perfect. like jtabeb says: relax... even if you think the world is ending (my addition)
                        Be prepared

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                        • #13
                          Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                          Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
                          Be prepared


                          I think we will all be...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Remeber Jtabeb's "Suzie Orman Put"?

                            Originally posted by Blackhawk View Post
                            I think we will all be...

                            Dollar bills would make much better toilet paper if they didn't put all that scratchy ink on them.
                            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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