Survivors must dig graves for their dead

[Master Shake]

Re: Survivors must dig graves for their dead

Our parish buried one of our members whose family was extremely poor.
The priest and our communicants would have been ashamed to ask the "government" to provide something so intimately personal.

We are never going to recover as a nation and a people until we dispense with the idea that the "government" (read: "someone else") should provide for us.

I, of course, agree.

One thing that the left/statists have been very sucessful at is in inculcating the concept that if someone objects to the government providing a service to the needy, such as burials for the indigent, such a person is an uncaring, selfish, greedhead. It's pure horseshit, but most people feel a bit sheepish about pointing it out.

When doing what you ought to do because it's the right thing to do becomes doing what you must do because the government says so, the mortar which binds society together is weakened, rather than strengthened, as those on the left seem to believe.

[thriftyandboringinohio]

Re: Survivors must dig graves for their dead

Our parish buried one of our members whose family was extremely poor.
The priest and our communicants would have been ashamed to ask the "government" to provide something so intimately personal.

We are never going to recover as a nation and a people until we dispense with the idea that the "government" (read: "someone else") should provide for us.

Good on you and your church for helping those people in need. But in the spirit of tough love, aren't you guilty of of helping those people let "someone else" provide for them?

[Mashuri]

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Good on you and your church for helping those people in need. But in the spirit of tough love, aren't you guilty of of helping those people let "someone else" provide for them?

You can see the difference between willing and unwilling, right?

[Master Shake]

Re: Survivors must dig graves for their dead

Good on you and your church for helping those people in need. But in the spirit of tough love, aren't you guilty of of helping those people let "someone else" provide for them?

That makes no sense.

[Raz]

Re: Survivors must dig graves for their dead

Good on you and your church for helping those people in need. But in the spirit of tough love, aren't you guilty of of helping those people let "someone else" provide for them?

If we adhere to the logic you presented here, thriftyandboring, then we should never do a single good deed for anyone. Ever. Period.

These members had no idea that the parish would step forth to help them in this manner. The problem begins when anyone or any organization informs such people that they are entitled to receive the fruits of someone else's labor or thrift. Human nature being what it is the "clients" who now believe themselves to be "entitled" to someone else's money soon become dependants.
I think you can see where this eventuates - we are currently living in it.

Voting to empower the Federal government to seize the income or assets of another person in order to hand it over to you is hardly promoting charity. It results in less total wealth being created and accelerates the decline of any civilization.

But before all you lefties begin your attack on my hard-heartedness, let me say that there are some circumstances where I would not oppose public assistance for the needy (the disabled, the terminally ill, etc.). What I would ask of you is to think about whether the public assistance you support goes to the truly needy - or to those who could provide for themselves if they took advantage of free educational opportunities but wouldn't, as well as those who simply know how to game the system.

[rjwjr]

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Well, I know and care now. A dead person isn't writing these messages.

But surely none of the corpses ever complained. And would you have the life-saving skills you have today without them?

[Serge_Tomiko]

Re: Survivors must dig graves for their dead

I don't want to seem hard-hearted, but why should government be involved in this? Providing burials for the indigent should be the province of friends, family, churches, charities, and community organizations. No?

Not only that, is it really so much to ask of your friends and family to dig a ditch? Four hours of hard labor!

150 years ago, most Americans would never have even thought to hire someone to perform such a task. Further, if asked, most would not consider that work for which payment was due.