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    Erosion in the M2:M1 Relationship and the Burgeoning Eurodollar Bubble



    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1725...e?source=email



    This is why it's so important for the Fed to report M3! All arrows are pointing to deflation, but we're still in this balance between de- and in-flation. How is that possible with the Money Supply's impotence and liquidity sitting in bank vaults? Simply put: the cheapened dollar has been funding the global carry trade. Speculators are borrowing USD at low rates, investing in foreign currencies at higher rates. There's a glut of eurodollars floating around the globe, under short-selling pressure and beyond the jurisdiction of the Fed. That's a variable that M2 doesn't account for, which is why someone better be tracking M3.
    We've all heard this "carry-trade" chatter already. Most of us are waiting for the maturity these ST USD borrowings, because it should bring a rush of demand for USDs in short covering. I worry, however, that once the rush happens, a lot of unaccounted-for, external M3 will onboard in narrower classifications (M2/M1), and we could see serious hyperinflation.
    I've noticed two powers at work during our zero-interest-rate-policy onset:
    1. There are powerful domestic deflationary forces
    2. Even more powerful USD hyperinflation is burgeoning outside our domestic economy
    The wool is over our eyes because the Fed [has us believe] that it's ignoring M3. Regardless of whether they're tracking eurodollars or not, there's no infrastructure poised to suck excess USD out of the domestic economy if inflation were to hit suddenly. Using the reverse-repo system would be like sopping up a flood with a mop. What's really happened is much of the Fed easing has leaked out of the US (where there's really no y/y nominal GDP growth) to finance opportunities internationally.


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    more at the link

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    Re: Erosion in the M2

    Originally posted by KGW View Post
    Erosion in the M2:M1 Relationship and the Burgeoning Eurodollar Bubble



    http://seekingalpha.com/article/1725...e?source=email



    This is why it's so important for the Fed to report M3! All arrows are pointing to deflation, but we're still in this balance between de- and in-flation. How is that possible with the Money Supply's impotence and liquidity sitting in bank vaults? Simply put: the cheapened dollar has been funding the global carry trade. Speculators are borrowing USD at low rates, investing in foreign currencies at higher rates. There's a glut of eurodollars floating around the globe, under short-selling pressure and beyond the jurisdiction of the Fed. That's a variable that M2 doesn't account for, which is why someone better be tracking M3.
    We've all heard this "carry-trade" chatter already. Most of us are waiting for the maturity these ST USD borrowings, because it should bring a rush of demand for USDs in short covering. I worry, however, that once the rush happens, a lot of unaccounted-for, external M3 will onboard in narrower classifications (M2/M1), and we could see serious hyperinflation.
    I've noticed two powers at work during our zero-interest-rate-policy onset:
    1. There are powerful domestic deflationary forces
    2. Even more powerful USD hyperinflation is burgeoning outside our domestic economy

    The wool is over our eyes because the Fed [has us believe] that it's ignoring M3. Regardless of whether they're tracking eurodollars or not, there's no infrastructure poised to suck excess USD out of the domestic economy if inflation were to hit suddenly. Using the reverse-repo system would be like sopping up a flood with a mop. What's really happened is much of the Fed easing has leaked out of the US (where there's really no y/y nominal GDP growth) to finance opportunities internationally.


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    more at the link
    I think this is the long-standing iTulip argument as well...all the Dollars needed to create high inflation in the USA have already been created...

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    • #3
      Re: Erosion in the M2

      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
      I think this is the long-standing iTulip argument as well...all the Dollars needed to create high inflation in the USA have already been created...
      yep... restatement/discovery of ka-poom theory.

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        Re: Erosion in the M2

        Yes, simply confirming the analysis. Always nice to see further articulation of the underlying situation.

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        • #5
          Re: Erosion in the M2

          Broader measures of money supply like M2 are usually demand driven. Their growth rates imply excessive money demand. It is good for risk assets that M2 isn't growing as fast: http://is.gd/4SFuY

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            Re: Erosion in the M2

            Originally posted by KGW View Post
            Yes, simply confirming the analysis. Always nice to see further articulation of the underlying situation.
            absolutely... also tells us when the trade's starting to get crowded.

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            • #7
              Re: Erosion in the M2

              Originally posted by Joy View Post
              Broader measures of money supply like M2 are usually demand driven. Their growth rates imply excessive money demand. It is good for risk assets that M2 isn't growing as fast: http://is.gd/4SFuY
              excellent point! panic's over, vol is low & m2 is down.

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              • #8
                Re: Erosion in the M2

                Originally posted by KGW View Post
                Yes, simply confirming the analysis. Always nice to see further articulation of the underlying situation.
                Unfortunately there's nothing nice about it.

                It just means that inflation has completely strapped itself in, and is awaiting the final countdown ...

                Rocket taking ogg.jpg

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                • #9
                  Re: Erosion in the M2

                  God I miss Arrested Development.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Erosion in the M2

                    Originally posted by Joy View Post
                    It is good for risk assets that M2 isn't growing as fast: http://is.gd/4SFuY
                    Sure. If you want to own risk assets in the first place ...

                    For Sale.gif

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                    • #11
                      Re: Erosion in the M2

                      Originally posted by Fiat Currency View Post
                      Sure. If you want to own risk assets in the first place ...

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                      but gold and silver are risky... i've read that for the past 20 yrs in the wsj so it must be true. :rolleyes:

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                      • #12
                        Re: Erosion in the M2

                        Originally posted by metalman View Post
                        but gold and silver are risky... i've read that for the past 20 yrs in the wsj so it must be true. :rolleyes:
                        Gold Pot.gifBargain.gif

                        'nuff said.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Erosion in the M2

                          Given entrenched money illusion, for most risk is measured nominally in dollar terms.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Erosion in the M2

                            So long as the Putz from Princeton can keep incomes flat ( or falling ), he has workers and retired people by the balls. Any drop in the dollar forex rate is made-up by a loss in our domestic standard-of-living. We can't spend.... This lack of domestic spending power puts a lid on any inflation, except for necessities.

                            I don't agree with this argument at all. I think prices could explode regardless of domestic spending in the U.S. The experience with inflation in the 20th Century in Argentina and Latin America proves that..... But the Putz from Princeton thinks he can keep inflation bottled-up by keeping a lid upon incomes.

                            So what do you all think? (I am just asking.) :confused:

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                            • #15
                              Re: Erosion in the M2

                              Originally posted by Joy View Post
                              Given entrenched money illusion, for most risk is measured nominally in dollar terms.
                              djia hits a nominal level that's 10 yrs old.

                              same day gold hits another all time high.

                              which is trumpeted as evidence of 'recovery'?

                              stocks, of course.

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