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  • #16
    Re: You have no Constitutional right not to be framed

    Originally posted by mooncliff View Post
    For murder.

    There really are monsters.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=120069519
    The problem is that it is a prosecutor's job to frame SOMEBODY for every crime. That is how our justice system works.

    Sometimes they frame the correct person, and justice is done. Sometimes they don't, and a miscarriage of justice occurs. It is the jury's job to figure out if the frame is correct or not.

    Remember, a defense attorney's job is to show that the frame DOESN'T fit their client. And they face their own ethical quandaries as well: http://federalism.typepad.com/crime_..._and_the_.html Miscarriages of justice work the other way as well!

    If defendants who are wrongly convicted are allowed to sue prosecutors, does this mean victims who watch perpetrators go free via miscarriages of justice will now be allowed to sue defense attorneys?

    The system of justice is supposed to work regardless of the INTENT of either the prosecutor or the defense attorney, as INTENT can be extremely hard to prove-- as that puts you into the realm of "thought crime". (as an aside, the entire edifice of Federal RICO law, and other "conspiracy to commit" law, is essentially a codification of "thought crime", but many people fail to understand just what a grotesquery that is).

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    • #17
      Re: You have no Constitutional right not to be framed

      Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
      The Roberts Court provides comfort for the powerful yet again. The first time they find for the the weaker party in a contested case it will be the first.
      On one side of the case being argued are Iowa prosecutors who contend "there is no freestanding right not to be framed." They are backed by the Obama administration, 28 states and every major prosecutors organization in the country.

      Maybe you should wait for the Roberts court to rule first. In the meantime, feel free to bash The Messiah.

      Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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      • #18
        Re: You have no Constitutional right not to be framed

        I had no idea you were a religious sort Shake, but I'll try to temper my (many) criticisms of Obama in your presence now that I know. ;)

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