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  • Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

    And Japanese auto makers say: Thank you!

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Clunke...3&asset=&ccode=

    Billed as a way for the government to put more fuel-efficient vehicles on highways, the popular $3 billion Cash for Clunkers program mostly involved swaps of old Ford or Chevrolet pickups for new ones that got only marginally better gas mileage, according to an analysis of new federal data by The Associated Press.
    The single most common swap -- which occurred more than 8,200 times -- involved Ford F150 pickup owners who took advantage of a government rebate to trade their old trucks for new Ford F150s. They were 17 times more likely to buy a new F150 than, say, a Toyota Prius. The fuel economy for the new trucks ranged from 15 mpg to 17 mpg based on engine size and other factors, an improvement of just 1 mpg to 3 mpg over the clunkers.



    Owners of thousands more large, old Chevrolet and Dodge pickups bought new Silverado and Ram trucks, also with only barely improved mileage in the middle teens, according to AP's analysis of sales of $15.2 billion worth of vehicles at nearly 19,000 car dealerships in every state. Those deals helped the Ford F150 and Chevy Silverado -- along with Ford's Escape midsize SUV -- climb into the Top 10 most-popular vehicles purchased with the government rebates. The most common truck-for-truck and truck-for-SUV deals totaled at least $911 million.

    In scores of deals, the government reported spending a total of $562,500 in rebates for new cars and trucks that got worse or the same mileage as the trade-ins -- in apparent violation of the program's requirements. The government said it is investigating those reports and said in some cases they were probably entered incorrectly by dealers or based on outdated fuel economy figures.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is still reviewing the reports, and any dealers that submitted invalid trade-ins will be directed to return the government rebate, spokesman Eric Bolton said.
    The new data, obtained by the AP under the Freedom of Information Act, include details of 677,081 clunker trade-ins processed by the government through Oct. 16. More than 95,000 of the new vehicles purchased under the program -- or about 1 in 7 -- got less than 20 mpg, according to the data.

    The new figures, requested four months ago by the AP, represent the first substantial outside accounting of the clunkers program, lauded by the White House and the Transportation Department for improving fuel economy, stimulating sales and taking the dirtiest vehicles off the road. The data show the average fuel economy was 15.8 mpg for the old vehicles and 24.9 for the new ones.

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    Popular high-mileage commuter cars, including the Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Toyota Camry and Ford Focus, also were among the Top 10 most popular new vehicles bought under the four-week program, with 105,280 of those models sold for a total of about $2 billion.

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    The clunkers program was very good for Longo Toyota of El Monte, Calif., just east of Los Angeles, which sold more than twice as many vehicles under the program as any other dealership in the country, worth more than $30 million. That sole dealership was responsible for 1,432 sales worth nearly $6 million in clunkers rebates, mostly from its sales of 323 Toyota Camrys, 277 Corollas and 171 Priuses.

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    Re: Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
    And Japanese auto makers say: Thank you!
    ...That sole dealership was responsible for 1,432 sales worth nearly $6 million in clunkers rebates, mostly from its sales of 323 Toyota Camrys, 277 Corollas and 171 Priuses.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Clunke...&asset=&ccode=
    Look on the bright side...at least the Camry and Corolla are assembled in the USA...


    As for the pick-up for pick-up swaps, that just reinforces two things posted here before:
    1. No matter how much Mega slags America for its F-150s he's gotta understand that the average American male would prefer Penélope Cruz over a Chevy Cruze, and if the government is going to help them buy a loaded Silverado or Dodge Ram to support the newly nationalized GM & Chrysler, why wouldn't you jump on it; and...
    2. My contention that Cash for Clunkers was yet another transfer from low income taxpayers to wealthier individuals. Low income taxpayers don't have the savings or credit to be able to participate in programs like C4C, so their taxes get vacuumed up and sprinkled on a cohort that for the most part can buy the vehicle they desire without government help.
    Some of the lousiest policy ever seen is coming out of D.C. these days. No wonder the US Dollar index is heading south...

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      Re: Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

      My friends traded an old, falling-apart Ford Explorer for a Totyota Camry. Better mileage by far, but they would have had to buy a new car anyhow, the Explorer was near the end of it's life. I don't know if they paid cash for the Camry, but I do know they easily could have.

      It's still money better spent than trying to prop up inflated house prices.

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      • #4
        Re: Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
        [*]My contention that Cash for Clunkers was yet another transfer from low income taxpayers to wealthier individuals. Low income taxpayers don't have the savings or credit to be able to participate in programs like C4C, so their taxes get vacuumed up and sprinkled on a cohort that for the most part can buy the vehicle they desire without government help.
        Similar to the Cash for home-buyers program which is welfare for the homebuilders, realtors and the middle class first time home buyer, partially on the backs of low income, tax paying renters.

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        • #5
          Re: Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          Look on the bright side...at least the Camry and Corolla are assembled in the USA...
          ...
          Not for much longer. When the Fremont CA NUMI plant closes in 2010 I think all US Corollas will be imported (mostly from Canada, where they are assembled by damn communists with universal healthcare).

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          • #6
            Re: Cash for Clunkers: actually Clunker for Clunkers?

            Many of them are already built in Mexico already, have been for years.

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