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    Rogers Says Roubini Is Wrong on Bubbles as Gold, Stocks Rally

    Nov. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Jim Rogers, the investor who predicted the start of the commodities rally in 1999, said that Nouriel Roubini is wrong about the threat of bubbles in gold and emerging-market stocks.

    Many commodities are still down from record highs and equity markets aren’t on the brink of collapse, Rogers, chairman of Singapore-based Rogers Holdings, said in an interview on Bloomberg Television today. The price of gold will double to at least $2,000 an ounce in the next decade, he said...

    ...“What bubble?” Rogers said, when asked if he agreed with Roubini’s view. “It’s clear Mr. Roubini hasn’t done his homework, yet again.”...

    ...“Right now, everybody including me is pessimistic on the U.S. dollar,” Rogers said. “That usually leads to a rally, whatever the asset is, and I would just suspect it’s going to happen again this time.

    “How long will it last? I don’t know,” he said. “It depends on how the world evolves. Somewhere along the line, I expect I’ll have to sell the rest of my dollars.”...

    ...In contrast to Roubini, Rogers said the only bubble he sees in the Western world now is in U.S. bonds.

    “I cannot conceive of lending money to the U.S. for 30 years,” he said.

    “Other than that, I don’t see any bubbles going on, unless he knows something the rest of us don’t know.”







    Roubini Says Rogers’s $2,000 Gold ‘Utter Nonsense’

    Nov. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Nouriel Roubini, the economist who predicted the global economic crisis, said a forecast by investor Jim Rogers that gold will double to at least $2,000 an ounce is “utter nonsense.”

    There is no inflation or “near-depression” to drive gold prices that high, Roubini said today at the Inside Commodities Conference in New York. If a severe depression came to pass, with investors buying canned goods and hiding out in log cabins, “maybe you want some gold in that scenario,” Roubini said.

    “Maybe it will reach $1,100 or so but $1,500 or $2,000 is nonsense,” Roubini said...

    ...“It is very hard to justify oil going from $30 to above $80 based only on the fundamentals of supply and demand,” Roubini said. Prices are “in part” a bubble, Roubini said...
    Roubini...the last deflationista hold-out...

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    Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
    Roubini...the last deflationista hold-out...
    Surely Prechter has not and never will change his spots.

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    • #3
      Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

      Originally posted by Down Under View Post
      Surely Prechter has not and never will change his spots.
      Okay, Roubini is last but one...

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        Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

        haha did he really say, "maybe it will reach $1100 or so...." just this morning?

        I wonder if there was a coffee spitting incident shortly after 10:30 a.m. EST.

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          Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

          Roubini is outside his comfort zone and is frustrated.

          He enjoys the MSM spotlight and posing for photos with bimbos in his New York Loft. His analysis isn't backed by any considered reasoning. As we go into the next tumble downward, I think he will become a footnote to the Great Depression he so adamantly denies existing.

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            Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

            Originally posted by Tybee Island View Post
            Roubini is outside his comfort zone and is frustrated.

            He enjoys the MSM spotlight and posing for photos with bimbos in his New York Loft. His analysis isn't backed by any considered reasoning. As we go into the next tumble downward, I think he will become a footnote to the Great Depression he so adamantly denies existing.
            EJ offered a noteable perspective a while back:

            http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...6247#post66247

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              Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

              Originally posted by strittmatter View Post
              EJ offered a noteable perspective a while back:

              http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...6247#post66247
              Great reminder! Thanks for putting up the link.

              Originally posted by EJ
              ...This economy will be rebuilt by entrepreneurs together with investors, academics, and politicians who understand them. It will not be by dramatic action but slow and steady progress that we will recover. In parallel with all of the bad news will be good news you will not hear. We'll bring it to you...

              ...I'm also not a US-basher like most of these guys. He needs to travel more. A person can go broke in a hurry shorting America.

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                Re: Time for some R & R...Rogers vs Roubini

                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                Great reminder! Thanks for putting up the link.
                I've printed this out and tacked to my wall. I'll need to look at it every now and again to keep from hyperventilating when I read the latest government nonsense.

                But I agree, the US has *amazing* advantages. Location (both major oceans), loads of farmland, reasonably unpolluted (remembering my trip to China here), and some of the most inventive people on the planet.

                Americans will have to give up some of the amazing privileges they've had (and in some cases squandered) over the past 60 years. The American overseas military empire will most likely fold up over the next 10-15 years. I'm not sure what the consequences of that will be. I think Europe/Japan and South Korea will be the biggest losers. They will have to put more money into defense. Saudi Arabia might find a new defense sugar daddy in China -- or maybe the US will just reduce to them.

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