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    http://articlesofinterest-kelley.blo...-surprise.html

    Bank oddities

    Saturday October 24, 2009 - 7:30 pm

    From an IT guy. "I'm a BofA IT worker and can tell you there is a large event going down this weekend.

    They're implementing what they're calling the "October Release".

    My understanding is that this is a software and systems upgrade which is somehow tied into the FED and their regulations.

    If this is a Federal Reserve activity, that would explain why ALL banks and credit unions are involved. We've been on a change lockdown for the past week and threatened with our jobs if we fuck anything up.

    We'll have to wait and see what happens on Monday, but I wouldn't read too much doom into this. We do this several times a year".

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    Here's the list:

    On Saturday, October 24, 2009, from 3:00 p.m. ET until 7:00 a.m. ET Sunday, October 25, 2009, Wells Fargo Investments, LLC will participate in an industry-wide disaster recovery exercise which may result in the brokerage website being unavailable for all or part of the event. Please contact us to place transactions if you are unable to access your account online during this exercise. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank you for your patience.

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    Found this notice re Chase Bank when I logged in to check my account:

    This website will be unavailable Saturday, October 24 from 9 PM ET until around 11 AM on Sunday, October 25.

    In addition, some loan information will be unavailable Saturday, October 24 from midnight ET until around 10 AM and again from 2 PM ET until around 3 PM.

    (Posted October 19)

    SO, is it just some kind of computer reset or or they all changing over to devalued dollars???

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    From TD Ameritrade: [link to www.tdameritrade.com]

    "Systems maintenance scheduled for Sunday, October 25

    Our systems will be unavailable from 12 a.m. to 2 a.m. ET on October 25 while we perform maintenance updates to ensure continued high-level service for our clients. To speak with a Client Services representative during this time, please call 800-669-3900. We apologize for this necessary interruption"
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    Oh (Sorry, normally do not swear, but...)

    ABN Amro, Huge bank in Holland, with worldwide branches and the likes..

    "In verband met reguliere onderhoudswerkzaamheden is Internet Bankieren tijdelijk niet beschikbaar. Wij adviseren u het omstreeks 07.00 uur weer te proberen. Onze excuses voor het ongemak."

    In connection with needed (per law?) maintenance, is Internet banking temporarily not possible. We advise you to try again at approximately 7:00 AM. Or excuses for the difficulties.

    (Is a rough translation)

    SH--
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    Not sure seems to be some sort of major change in the US / European financial systems / relationships which was planned about a month in advance but has been kept very quiet until this weekend. glp was the only place I heard anything about it up till tonight. Whatever it is they are expecting potential civil unrest from it
    *note recent posts about armed guards appearing at banks where they have never been before as well it's obviously going to piss people off whatever the hell they are up to

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    Yes, Rabobank "seems" ok - but ABN AMRO and now also ING Bank NOT!

    Gepland onderhoud Mijn ING (25 oktober 1:45 - 6:00 en 26 oktober 3:00 - 6:00)
    See:
    https://mijn.ing.nl/internetbankieren/SesamLoginServlet

    "Planned maintenance" 25 October and 26 October!

    Strange ...
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    hm odd my bank is closing down for several hours in sweden... could that be a part of it? it has never done so before.

    yes it's world wide. Something big is happening with regards to USA bank transfers on a global scale things will never be the same come Monday.

    The title of the thread should be changed to notify people of what is happening easier!

    In other news...in Slovenia.

    I have two accounts...

    Personal NLB shutdown soon do to summer-winter time change...

    Buisness account ---another bank...actualy the say that banking is going to be completly different after 1.11.09 becose of new European agreemants and new european baking law...

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    Update from Belgium. I didn't want to take any chances and wanted to withdraw some money before the hours change.

    I first went to KBC Bank. They have 2 ATM's inside the bank. Never since I'm a customer have both been empty or not working. I CONFIRM THAT BOTH WERE DOWN. A BIG RED BANNER ON THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, (in Dutch)

    "This ATM is not working at the moment, please accept our apologies."

    I went to another ATM, there were no 50 euro bills left. Now this is not exactly a surprise. During weekends this ATM quite often gets empty, only it usually happens at the end of the weekend.

    2 possibilities: 1) A lot of people withdraw money today. 2) They didn't fill the ATM on purpose.

    I withdraw €500 in 20 euro bills.

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    I wasn't going to post this since this is done once a year or so...but since we have the Emergency Declaration today..I might as well add.

    A major bank that has a large regional headquarters in the area sent a batch of employees to their "Disaster Location" which is 70 miles away, in order to fire up and test all the computer systems at that location. They did this the other day.

    Like I said, this is done on occasion, but the timing is a bit suspicious. This is a large bank...not an ity-Bity one.

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    berlin, capital of the teutons

    deutsche bank: so far normal access via onlinebanking. no information whatsoever regarding software updts or such and delays caused by this on their national website, nothing, nada. but lets wait and see.

    spoarkasse: nothing. all does work.

    ing-diba: as in the netherlands, see posts above, no service tonight.

    commerzbank: onlinebanking gives me a 404/not found, but this could be related to changes in ownership to federal "umbrella" due to bancruptcy in the wake of last october/lehmann brothers.

    will check other banks now. Regarding change to winter time: i have never ever seen any delays or disruptions of service caused by this. we live in 2009, not in the middle ages, every hacker can program a software that can manage this one-hour change.

    if this whole blabla on software updates and such is taken as a reason for some downtime then i would say it stinks as noisy as three-weeks-old fish. a little bit too much of coincidence this weekend, on too much areas and levels, for my taste.

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    wow... amazing:

    Commerzbank, Germany:

    [link to www.commerzbanking.de]

    General Error

    We regret that the application which you have selected is likely to be unavailable until 08:00 h on account of maintenance work.

    We trust that you will understand this situation.

    Your Commerzbanking-Team
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    Actually, maybe this is not BS

    I just logged into my Chase account in Ohio and got this

    "This website will be unavailable Saturday, October 24 from 9 PM ET until around 11 AM on Sunday, October 25.

    In addition, some loan information will be unavailable Saturday, October 24 from midnight ET until around 10 AM and again from 2 PM ET until around 3 PM."

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    The ATM just advised that 'Unable to process at this time' I tried 2 different locations and got similar messages. Then i could not get logged into my online account. i also tried my text hone service and get 'unavailable, try again later or contact during business hours'

    I know for a fact 4 hours ago I had $653 in the account with nothing outstanding. Anyone know whats going on???/ this was Wells Fargo

    ---- Is this maybe related to this ??

    THERE ARE MORE.... 1:00 Am

    Barclays secure online banking

    Online Banking maintenance

    We'll be carrying out routine maintenance in Online Banking on Sunday 25 October between 01:45 BST and 02:15 GMT you will not be able to log in during this time. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

    https://ibank.barclays.co.uk/olb/o/LoginMember.do

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    PrimeSource Credit Union is excited about upgrading to a new and improved data processing system that will be much more streamlined, user friendly, and will help us focus on YOU, the member, rather than our data entry. Below you will find important information to help you understand how you may be impacted during the upgrade as well as how best to prepare.

    When is the upgrade taking place? Beginning the close of business (6:00 p.m.) on Friday, October 30th through Monday, November 2nd.
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    BNY (Mellon) [link to www.bnyconvergex.com]

    "US Portfolio trading Clients" link tab dead

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    ITS EVERYONE!!!!

    HSBC Personal Internet Banking - Log On Maintenance Notice: Due to scheduled maintenance, us.hsbc.com will be unavailable during the early hours of Monday, October 26, 2009. We apologize for the inconvenience.

    https://www.us.hsbc.com/1/2/3/person...banking/log-on
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    Heritage Federal Credit Union down also:
    [link to www.hfcu.info]
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    I just tried etrade and got this: A L E R T

    Scheduled System Maintenance Due to scheduled system maintenance, one or more features may be unavailable.

    We apologize for the inconvenience. If you have questions or need assistance, please call 1-800-ETRADE-1 (1-800-387-2331) and a Customer Service representative will be able to assist you.
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    Scotrade is down [link to www.scottrade.com]
    Td will be down [link to www.tdameritrade.com]
    Etrade is down

    WTF IS GOING ON
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    This is really really weird, as a IT admin I can tell you upgrades are not some easy thing you throw together, planning takes weeks sometimes even months, specially in banking systems, I can tell you right now for all IT departments to have this upgrade window at the same time is really really strange, I could see it happen over a month at different times since IT depts have different schedules but all at the same time window on the same day is just wtf, something is going down.

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    German Sparkasse

    "Wartungsarbeiten am 24. und 25. Oktober 2009
    Aufgrund von Wartungsarbeiten stehen folgende Anwendungen am Samstag, den 24.10.09 von voraussichtlich 22:00 Uhr bis Sonntag, den 25.10.09 bis ca. 10:00 Uhr nicht zur Verfügung: InternetBanking, OnlineBanking mittels Software, GeldKarte laden, Kontoauszüge drucken. Wir bitten um Ihr Verständnis!"

    "Maintenance work on 24 and 25 October 2009

    Due to maintenance work the following applications are available on Saturday, 24.10.09 is expected to clock 22:00 to Sunday, 25.10.09 until about 10:00 clock does not print available: Internet banking, online banking services via software to load money card, bank statements. We ask for your understanding!
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    Cyberbranch online banking will be unavailable due to system maintenance on Sunday October 25, 2009 from 7am until 11am. We apologize for any inconvenience

    www.ornlfcu.com

    Just another one to add to the pile.
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    just tried Scottrade..

    Guess WHAT?!@?
    Scottrade Online Stock Trading

    We're sorry. The Web site is temporarily unavailable due to scheduled maintenance.

    We apologize for any inconvenience.

    For further assistance, you may call customer service, toll-free, at 1-800-619-7283 or send an e-mail .

    The Customer Service Center 's hours are:
    Monday - Friday -- 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. CT
    Saturday -- 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. CT
    Sundays and Holidays -- Closed

    See it for yourself:

    [link to www.scottrade.com]

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    Now somebody tell me wtf is going on here

    STOCK TRADING HOUSES CLOSED?!?

    they are not even regular banks for fucks sake

    I've NEVER EVER IN MY LIFE seen anything even REMOTELY close to this go down...

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    Some highlights from my online acct at Wachovia (now part of Wells Fargo)

    >> * Available Balance as of : Not Available

    >> We are sorry but we have encountered technical difficulties accessing external Funds Transfer. Please try again later. We apologize for any inconvenience.
    Please reference error code 200-137.

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    My small, no-name credit union is down too.
    See what they say here.

    https://www.netit.financial-net.com/...bin/ebs​

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    So a few hours ago I read this thread, and I thought, okay I'll log into my Wachovia account online and see if there are any alerts.

    I log in, everything looks good... my available balance is there, the digits are lookin' good.

    So a minute ago, I figured I'd check again...

    I log in... where before it said X amount of money was available from my account, NOW IT SAYS:

    Available Balance
    Not Available
    Total : Not Available

    A few hours ago, my money was listed where it now says it's NOT AVAILABLE.

    What the ...

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    Huntington Bank (Columbus Ohio) - their website is up, but when I try to log in I get:

    YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO VIEW THIS PAGE.

    "HTTP Error 401.1 - Unauthorized: Access is denied due to invalid credentials.
    Internet Information Services (IIS)"

    Never had a problem before without a notice well ahead of time - like "we are going to do some work starting at midnight Saturday night for 4 hours" - maybe once in 5 years,

    There is no notice on thier website- If I wasn't attempting to look at an account, I would have no idea there was "a problem" or "work" going on.
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    Just tried to login to my Wachovia account and this is what I get:

    ASV-003

    We are unable to access your account information at this time, and apologize for any inconvenience.

    Please try again later, or call (800) 950-2296, 24 hours a day, seven days a week for further assistance. Be sure to mention error code ASV-003 when you call

    http://www.oanda.com/products/fxdelivery/

    **FOREIGN CURRENCY - ORDER/DELIVERY !! October 25th 3:30 AM

    This site is currently undergoing essential maintenance. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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    Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

    http://www.aba.com/Events/annual.htm

    http://www.aba.com/Events/annual.htm

    ABA Annual Meeting
    Business Expo and Directors' Forum
    October 25-28, 2009 • Sheraton Chicago Hotel & Towers, Chicago, Illinois

    Registration/Housing | Schedule-at-a-Glance | Featured Speakers | Sessions | Power Breakfasts
    Directors' Forum | Hotel & Travel | Optional Tours | Special Events | Exhibits and Sponsorship


    Let's start rebuilding our future, community by community, bank by bank. Register now to join us at the ABA Annual Meeting in Chicago for the most important industry gathering of the year.

    The regulatory structure you operate under is being rebuilt. What will you do? How will your bank operate in this new environment? Come to this meeting to get the tools and resources you need to succeed.

    Don't miss...

    Exceptional speakers like FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair, Comptroller of the Currency John Dugan, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and political commentator George Will.

    Workshops and special sessions focusing on developing solutions to critical issues threatening your bank's future.

    Special events that offer you ample time to network with your peers.

    The Directors' Forum- understand your fiduciary responsibilities in this unprecedented crisis.

    It's time to roll up your sleeves, get down to business, and grab hold of the tools that will make the difference in your bank's future and our industry's future.
    Anyone here talking shop there?

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    • #3
      Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

      Just in case you all didn't know why a National Emergency is called for, this may be some interesting reading:

      http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/98-505.pdf

      P.S. That is also why there is a de facto economic news blackout.

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      • #4
        Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

        I can confirm that Westpac/ St George banks in Australia had the same shutdown this weekend. Google St George Bank and you get this.
        Due to planned system maintenance, Internet Banking will be unavailable from ...
        www.stgeorge.com.au/IbankRedirect.asp
        I was of the opinion that is was to do with the elimination of this Phishing scam
        http://www.fraudwatchinternational.c...p?fa_no=235372

        Back Up and running this morning 26th October 2009 though.
        Tin foil hat is tingling with static
        Last edited by thunderdownunder; October 25, 2009, 11:02 PM. Reason: link added

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        • #5
          Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

          Maybe they're getting ready for the bank holiday coming up? After Thanksgiving?

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          • #6
            Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

            Every since before Y2K when it first became possible on a large scale, and when processes were formalized, there have been periodic disaster recovery tests conducted everywhere. For a large, distributed, interdependent system you have to have lots of players involved.

            The giveaway for me was the staff moving to the offsite recovery location. They are doing the full test.

            It makes sense that the feds would require a system test fire drill now and again. There is no need for worry at this point. In fact, it probably means, if they learn a lot from problems they encounter, that the aftermath of an Internet attack or disaster in some major area, will be manageable and outages will be controlled.

            Re upgrade speculation ... In the event they are doing an upgrade on some shared communications or integration software they might also have to do the same thing; man the disaster recovery sites, and do the update. Applying an update and taking down the US banking system for a weekend or more would not be a good idea in boom/bubble times, and particularly not now, when faith is at a low point.

            When something truly sinister happens, there will be NO CLUES left laying around to be found :-)

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            • #7
              Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

              No problems at all and no scheduled outages this weekend, gaining access to online banking with my very local banking institution.

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              • #8
                Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

                Fascinating. I can confirm that someone in our household works at JPM Chase's giant IT organization, and was logged in working Saturday night 10/24/09 for a major global system change.

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                  Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

                  Originally posted by thriftyandboringinohio View Post
                  Fascinating. I can confirm that someone in our household works at JPM Chase's giant IT organization, and was logged in working Saturday night 10/24/09 for a major global system change.
                  Just got an Email from HSBC in the UK. Might help explain things a little. HSBC UK sent me an authority that I had to sign a month or so ago, saying I would agree to the new Regs.

                  Payment Services Directive introduced across Europe

                  Dear HSBCnet user,

                  The Payment Services Directive will be introduced across Europe as of 1 November 2009.

                  These regulations are designed to bring harmony and transparency to payments throughout the European Economic Area. To support these legal developments, we are making the following changes to HSBCnet with effect from 1 November:


                  1.
                  Extended Debit Advices - Debit advices appearing on screen relating to Priority Payments within the European Economic Area will now be available to "click into" for 35 days.


                  2.
                  It will now be a requirement to provide a valid BIC and IBAN for all cross border payments within the EEA with EUR as the payment currency - If a valid BIC/IBAN is not used on these payments, you may be charged more for making that payment. If this is the case for a payment initiated on screen, you will receive a warning message on the screen at both the create stage and at detail level at the authorisation stages.


                  3.
                  Those customers using Section 5 of the Priority Payment screen may find that certain payments are processed manually, incurring additional charges. If section 5 is populated, you will receive a warning message on both the create confirmation screen and the authorisation detail screen.


                  4.
                  When making a payment within the European Economic Area, only SHARE (SHA) will now be available with regards to the charging options.
                  If you require further information on the changes being made to HSBCnet in respect of the Payment Services Directive, please contact your local HSBCnet Helpdesk.

                  Yours Faithfully,

                  HSBCnet team

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                  • #10
                    Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

                    big outage at UBS this weekend...not sure if related

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                    • #11
                      Re: Congrats, did your Bank Upgrade their system OK?

                      Black days come in October

                      The Wall Street Crash of 1929,[1][2] also known as the Great Crash or the Stock Market Crash of 1929, was the most devastating stock market crash in the history of the United States, taking into consideration the full extent and duration of its fallout.[3]
                      Four phrases—Black Thursday, Black Friday, then Black Monday, and Black Tuesday—are commonly used to describe this collapse of stock values. All four are appropriate, for the crash was not a one-day affair. The initial crash occurred on Thursday, October 24, 1929, but the catastrophic downturn of Monday, October 28 and Tuesday, October 29 precipitated widespread alarm and the onset of an unprecedented and long-lasting economic depression for the United States and the world. This stock market collapse continued for a month.

                      I've heard here Dow will be down 50% or so - Are we on the way?

                      Cindy
                      Anyone who bought stocks in mid-1929 and held onto them saw most of his or her adult life pass by before getting back to even.


                      Anyone who bought stocks in mid-1929 and held onto them saw most of his or her adult life pass by before getting back to even.
                      Anyone who bought stocks in mid-1929 and held onto them saw most of his or her adult life pass by before getting back to even.

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