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    http://bnarchives.yorku.ca/262/02/20...risis_3_ds.htm

    This is a potentially major point: If confidence in the system is replaced by fear, then there is no possibility of reflation of an equity bubble because stock prices will closely adhere to actual earnings.

    This puts the EJ S&P --> 500/600 call into greater focus: his assertion was that the failure of the economy to return to bubble levels - as evidenced by still rising unemployment, misallocation of capital, etc etc as well as by the ending of short term government distortions of the market - will show up as a failure to return to peak earnings levels much less growth going forward.

    According to the sacred annals of modern finance, formalized a century ago by Irving Fisher and popularized during the Great Depression by Benjamin Graham and David Dodd, asset prices are forward looking: “The value of a common stock,” dictate Graham and Dodd in their 1934 immortal doorstopper, “depends entirely upon what it will earn in the future.” [Note 5]

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    Theorists of finance don’t consider this loose association problematic. On the contrary, they see it as fully consistent with their basic model. According to this model, investors price an asset by discounting the future profits the asset is expected to generate. In this ritual, investors set the price of the asset—say a share of Microsoft—as equal to the ratio between what they expect Microsoft’s future profits to be on the one hand, and the rate of return they wish those profits to represent on the other. For instance, if investors expect ownership of a Microsoft share to generate a perpetual profit stream of $100 annually, and if they want this stream to represent a 20% rate of return, then they would be willing to pay for the share (or demand to be paid) a price of $500 (=$100/0.2). [Note 8]

    Obviously, prices set in this manner should bear little or no relationship to the current level of profit. There are three reasons for the dissociation.

    First, since the price is determined on the basis of future earnings, there is no inherent reason for it to be correlated with profits that have already been earned. And that is just for starters. Note that future earnings, by their very nature, cannot be known with certainty and are forever conjectural. For this reason, investors discount not the profits they will earn, but the profits they expect to earn. In the case of Microsoft above, for example, investors can easily misjudge the perpetual future flow of earnings per share to be $50 or $400, instead of the eventual $100; this error will in turn cause them to price the company’s stock at $250 or $2000, respectively (=50/0.2 or 400/0.2); and since profit expectations are rather open ended, the effect is to further widen the disparity between price on the one hand and current earnings on the other.

    Second, a given level of expected earnings can generate any number of asset prices, depending on the discount rate of return. For instance, if the discount rate for Microsoft in our example were 10% (rather than 20%), the stock price would double to $1,000 (=$100/0.1). Now, the discount rate changes constantly—partly because of variations in the overall rate of interest and partly in response to changing perceptions of risk specific to the particular equity in question. And since in and of themselves these changes are unrelated to current earnings, the effect is to further reduce the correlation.

    Finally, investors are not always able to follow the rituals of finance with sufficient precision. Regardless of how hard they try, their computations are constantly thrown off by various market “imperfections,” government “intervention” and other such diseases; and sometimes, particularly when the investors get excited, the calculations can even become “irrational,” god forbid. Now, since neither the miscalculations nor the irrationality are correlated with current profits, the result is to loosen the fit even more.
    So if we adhere to the scriptures of finance, we should expect to see no systematic association between equity prices and current profits. And given that most investors obey the scriptures—including the allowed imperfections and irrationalities—their actions tend to validate the “theory.”

    But not always.
    Looking Backward

    Figure 2 shows two clear exceptions to the rule: the first occurred during the 1930s, the second during the 2000s. In both periods, which the chart shadows for easier visualization, equity prices moved together—and tightly so—with current earnings.

    Needless to say, this tight correlation is a gross violation of conventional, forward-looking finance. In fact, the violation is far worse than it seems.
    Note that, despite their name, monthly earnings per share represent profits that were earned not during the current month, but during the previous twelve months. This measurement convention means that, during the 1930s, and again during the 2000s, investors committed a cardinal sin. They priced assets based not on future earnings, and not even on current earnings, but on past earnings!

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    Re: Nitzan and Bichler: Contours of Crisis III

    My takeaway was the opposite, that "actual earnings" is irrelevant because you can arrive at a stock price through different methods (ie, moving discount rate down or future growth up). As long as money is getting printed into the system and the big players keep the market high, who is to complain? I think we are seeing that today with equity prices. What the fear when you know money will get printed to keep a lot of things propped up regardless of how bad it gets? Maybe the market is factoring in moderately high levels of inflation as per EJ's forecast? Zimbabwe's stock market did great when their currency got demolished.

    I also don't agree that "there is no inherent reason [for past profits] to be correlated with [future] profits." The inherent reason is that the assets are the same. If I own a tractor that generated $100 in profits through crops, what do you think the tractor can generate the next year? The answer is not random - all things equal, it will be around $100. Anyone who has done any sort of basic financial modeling will know that there are trends with profit margins, costs, etc.

    That is not to say that investors cannot misjudge the future flow of earnings, because that happens all the time too, but in a world where you do not know the future you have to make do with what you know. I don't think anyone can predict earnings 10 years into the future, but in the short term, I think you can have a reasonable degree of confidence. If I think the discount rate should be 10% and someone thinks it should be 5%, then he will buy all my stock - there is no problem there because the prices will move the equilibrium point (in theory, if there was no market manipulation).

    By the way, this is not only with stocks. For example, why are you buying gold? Because you think that the government will take the easy way out and continue to print money. Whenever you are making an "investment" of ANY kind, you are predicting future value of the asset, period. If you agree with the thesis that the future is random and nobody can make any prediction that is more likely to be correct than a random guess, then you should probably split your money evenly into all the asset classes so you don't get burned on any particular unforeseen event.

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      Re: Nitzan and Bichler: Contours of Crisis III

      Originally posted by Aerius
      My takeaway was the opposite, that "actual earnings" is irrelevant because you can arrive at a stock price through different methods (ie, moving discount rate down or future growth up).
      I think you failed to read even the excerpt posted.

      What Nitzan and Bichler said was that with the Graham/Dodd valuation for stocks (i.e. discount rate or future growth), theoretically earnings and stock prices should have no correlation because stock prices were forward looking - or in other words what you assert.

      However, in 2 periods in history, the correlation between stock prices and earnings were very very tight implying that investors were clearly basing expectations on past earnings. This was for both earnings going up AND down.

      The paper is not an implicit judgement either way on valuation methods for stocks - merely a commentary that fundamental investor behavior apparently changes when systemic fear arises.

      But the point is valid: if fundamental behavior has changed such that investors will no longer take future valuations into account - by whatever method - then pricing expectations based on pre-systemic fear behavior are also at least temporarily invalid.

      Originally posted by Aerius
      I also don't agree that "there is no inherent reason [for past profits] to be correlated with [future] profits." The inherent reason is that the assets are the same. If I own a tractor that generated $100 in profits through crops, what do you think the tractor can generate the next year? The answer is not random - all things equal, it will be around $100. Anyone who has done any sort of basic financial modeling will know that there are trends with profit margins, costs, etc.
      An even cursory examination of the earnings graph would seem to invalidate your assertion. Otherwise why would earnings swing up and down in such a dramatic fashion?

      The reason is as we've seen with the price of oil in the past 2 years: any product - be it manufactured good or commodity - is subject to the general action of the overall economy.

      If the overall economy goes up, the in general earnings go up.

      If the overall economy goes down, then in general earnings also go down.

      If we then examine the ability of economists in the past 100 years in predicting the actual future behavior of the economy, then clearly all earnings projections are subject to general economic forces which have yet to be accurately modeled - although iTulip is doing its darndest to break that record.
      Last edited by c1ue; October 19, 2009, 01:13 PM.

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