Hedge fund manager arrested

[metalman]

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some background of those pictures:

the chinese girl being executed murdered her best friend and burned the body into charcoals for, get this: her best friend was smart and got into university for further education, and she was stupid and did not pass the entrance exam.

she deserved every bit of the punishment she was getting. this was a wellknown murder case in the 90s.

well known according to whose reporting? the executioner's. there is no other media in china but state media and state-friendly media.

the pics somehow leaked to the internet later on.

gosh, i can't imagine how that happened.

nice dress, btw. makes her look attractive. the whole thing looks staged. but then, to me, all of china looks staged.

nowadays, while the capital punishment still remains in china, the execution is carried out with poison injection - china is coming to the globalization in every little way.

China’s Mobile Execution Buses

[goadam1]

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well known according to whose reporting? the executioner's. there is no other media in china but state media and state-friendly media.



gosh, i can't imagine how that happened.

nice dress, btw. makes her look attractive. the whole thing looks staged. but then, to me, all of china looks staged.





China’s Mobile Execution Buses

Is the death bus powered by alt energy? New Batteries? Soylent Green?

[skyson]

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China has indeed improved its disposal methods. My Grandfather has some very graphic details of the methods used around 1900. Shall we say they separated the good bits from the bad in one stroke :eek:
Better yet was his Chinese taught method used to acquire information without undue coercion. Water boarding is for pussies.
from his diaries the following,
Want the truth from a hardened criminal, take one barrel with lid, one leather thong to tie the hands to feet at rear (passing it through the mouth to pull the head back). Place criminal kneeling in barrel and nail down lid above his/her head. Add water drip at a time on head. leave in darkened room for 24hrs. During those hours the water rises and the prisoner understands they have two options. Swallow the water to prevent its rise or just strain to keep your head above water. Eventually only the mouth and nose are clear if you are able to strain enough. Soon only the nose is above water and one option remains, swallow the water to "lower" the level. Bladder increases to extream painful excess and you know if you pee your going to drown but pee you must. So you strain to extreme against the leather restraint pulling your neck to a painful angle while taking big grasping breathes. This of course has the effect of making you float up only to sink down again under water. Your in excruciating pain with a full bladder, bent neck, mouth full of water that you can't swallow, circulation to hands and feet cutoff and your bouncing of the barrel bottom with each stolen breathe in total quite and pitch black environment.
Then someone outside the barrel will speak and ask you a series of pointed questions that if answered correctly will save you.
I am told they were always answered fully on removal from the barrel. If not you went back and never returned. Some lost their minds and souls completely during this ordeal and became "quivering ghosts"
This was used on river pirates to find the location of the gangs headquarters near Port Arthur and eventually diminished their presence to a manageable lot.
However the Chinese have other methods which to a civilized Christian man seem beyond cruel. One I witnessed astounded me in its simplicity but devastated me with its visual gore. If I had my pistol I would have shot the poor beggar to shorten his suffering. A short knife, salt and time is the basis for this bestial death. They take the condemned to the town centre and tie him to a post where he is stripped naked....................:eek::eek::eek:
Yes things have improved in China it would appear.

wow, those stuff were from the old times. i have some of those old pictures, but not fit to post here...:eek:

[skyson]

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well known according to whose reporting? the executioner's. there is no other media in china but state media and state-friendly media.

gosh, i can't imagine how that happened.

nice dress, btw. makes her look attractive. the whole thing looks staged. but then, to me, all of china looks staged.

well, everything in your eyes in china is fake. what can i say? you can choose to believe whatever you choose to believe. i don't really care. do the chinese people or any "third-world" people care what a westerner think of them anymore? unlikely. you can hold whatever psychological superiority over whatever, that does not change the declining course of the west. the most recent two wars, and the current financial crisis of the west, have shown to the world that the US and the west in general are merely paper tigers, in terms of economy, military, and morality. too bad, wake up, face it and swallow it! the shocking truth is that you are not better than anyone in the world. the day of US or western politicians can go anywhere and give a lesson on anything to anyone is over!

back to the liar Fox Glenn's defamatory propoganda:

look at these pictures of Mao prominently displayed on the wall of Tiananmen. if Mao was a true evil man, would the chinese people allow his picture display in this manner? he might not be perfect, but he is my hero, and the hero of the majority of the chinese people. if you think that the chinese people are stupid and brainwashed, then i tell you, you are hopelessly brainwashed by the western propaganda.

if the economic crisis got bad enough, some stupid hot head US politicians and the western propaganda machine might try desperately sell a stupid war with the "evil red china" to your citizens, i have to warn you here first: we are not waiting for your "liberation", and we will welcome you with bullets, bombs, missiles, or whatever weapons that most effectively in sending hundreds of thousands of american soldiers back home, err...in body bags...

P.S, i again want to point out that the first execution pic is a fake one. just look at the toy guns.

[flintlock]

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P.S, i again want to point out that the first execution pic is a fake one. just look at the toy guns.

Looks fake to me too. Look how the guy on the left is holding the pistol. Or maybe he's pulling the hammer back? Hard to tell. And the Mismatched tennis shoes on soldiers? Looks more like something out of a bad snuff film.

[Slimprofits]

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Why Didn't Peasants Riot During China's Three-Year Famine?

excerpt:

Me: In ancient times, if the emperor and his local officials didn't care about the disaster-stricken people, people rebelled. Why for three years in this famine no one revolted?

Chen: Chinese peasants were too nice.

Me: Nice? There is no shortage of peasant uprisings in history.

Chen: But they didn't see bad officials [during the famine].

Me: Why couldn't they see? They surely knew cadres lied about their production.

Chen: (voice rose emotionally) How could they see? Everyone was equal. The provincial leaders ate the same, no special treatment. When cadres like us went down, we ate and lived exactly like the peasants.

Me: But in fact there was a difference. You guys had a 21-jin monthly ration; the peasants didn't.

Chen: This….

Chen's wife: [The peasants didn't need the ration] because they were the producer of the grains.

Chen: The peasants advocated the Communist Party. They believed in the Party. They didn't have antagonistic feeling toward the government.

My mother: Where I was sent down, every day I saw people die. They simply buried the bodies. They said nothing. They didn't know the disaster was man-made. How could they see it? The man-made factor would be corruption, but corruption meant embezzlement. There wasn't embezzlement then.

Chen: The Party's reputation was really high.

Me: So the peasants basically didn't complain.

Chen: Who could they complain about? The cadres were generally good.

also a story in there about cannibalism during the famine.

[iyamwutiam]

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Yes-apparently Sanford/ Madoff-etc. were not enuf to quell the mobs bloodlust. So lets throw them some more. As for hedge funds supporting 'groups' of dubious distinction -how naive must one be to not understand that te world is fraught with competing interests -who shall use the simple tools of corruption and force to accomplish -"more profit".

[iyamwutiam]

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Why Didn't Peasants Riot During China's Three-Year Famine?

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also a story in there about cannibalism during the famine.

I must agree with the view that all vies are tainted with bias. Even the rigourous attempt at no bias is a bias. However-there is a plethora of evidence that when it comes to other 'peoples'/'nations'/'cultures' the US is unequal in it's ability to distort perspective and encourage athe simple dichotomy of good ad evul.

[touchring]

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Why Didn't Peasants Riot During China's Three-Year Famine?

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also a story in there about cannibalism during the famine.

There were famine even before the communist took over. So i think the chinese are resigned to fate and were used to famine.

[Slimprofits]

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Appreciate the input of people with much more knowledge of China than I.

It's the country that fascinates the most that I know the least about.

[marvenger]

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and plastic fantastic USA isn't? You guys are programmed by advertising and taking the rest of the world with you.

[Slimprofits]

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and plastic fantastic USA isn't? You guys are programmed by advertising and taking the rest of the world with you.

I can't tell which post you are replying too. Was it one of mine?

[marvenger]

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while the methods were horrid and i don't think Mao should be idolised, restoring sovereignty was the best thing for China. Preventing other countries exercising sovereignty has been the no1 US foreign policy agenda. All the East Asian tigers told the US neoliberals to get fucked and state supported their economies during development. Those that opened their markets to TNC's and foreign capital were fucked in the A coz that's what unregulated capital does.

[ThePythonicCow]

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I can't tell which post you are replying too. Was it one of mine?

If I switch the "Display Mode" to "Hybrid Mode", it seems that marvenger's reply of:

and plastic fantastic USA isn't? You guys are programmed by advertising and taking the rest of the world with you.

was responding to to metalman's comment of a couple days ago:

well known according to whose reporting? the executioner's. there is no other media in china but state media and state-friendly media.

[marvenger]

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nah sorry it was in response to metalman's everything in China is staged. I think they're adopting western and US in particular advertising and staging and putting their own spin on it. I think its a small difference between US culture compared with traditional culture and if metalman thinks thats staged maybe he can use it to better understand his own reflection.