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    Senate OKs $626B defense budget

    The Senate approved a $625.6 billion Pentagon budget Tuesday, ending a weeklong debate reflecting very different but related wars: one in Afghanistan and the other among aerospace giants vying to keep production lines open.


    Adopted 93-7, the measure includes $128.6 billion for U.S. military operations overseas, a number that will almost certainly grow in 2010 as the administration revamps its strategy in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region. Meeting with top lawmakers prior to the Senate action, President Barack Obama warned that the annual costs would approach $1 billion for every 1,000 troops added, and Afghanistan is now driving efforts to channel military spending more toward the immediate needs of soldiers and Marines in the field — and not the high-priced aircraft of the past.


    Amid a weakened economy, major aerospace companies are being squeezed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. And both in Congress and overseas markets, new battle lines have formed as corporations like Boeing and Lockheed Martin compete for the remaining dollars — and foreign sales.


    Boeing, based in the president’s home city of Chicago, proved a major player in the Senate, which added $2.5 billion to the Defense Department’s request for C-17 cargo planes and has, thus far, avoided any veto threat by the White House. Another $512 million was added for Boeing’s F/A-18 Super Hornets, and in pursuing sales overseas, the company is getting help from both the administration and Senate allies like Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.).


    August travel records are telling. Obama sent a high-level Defense and State Department delegation to Brazil to promote a multibillion-dollar deal for 36 of the F/A-18s, competing with a French-made fighter. Retired Gen. Jim Jones, the president’s national security adviser and a former board member at Boeing, was part of the trip but left after two days and, “due to an abundance of caution,” kept himself removed from the plane sales talks, a spokesman said.

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    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28014.html

    Looks like Uncle Sam is hiring

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    Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

    Whew! For a minute I thought the military-industrialism was on the ropes.

    Now let's put this crap to work.

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    • #3
      Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

      Obligatory Video...

      "America, *uck Yeah! Savin' the M**** F**** world again!"

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

      Adeptus

      PS. "$1 billion for every 1,000 troops added" ?!?! That's like $1 MILLION per 1 Soldier (!!!)
      WTF are these guys doing? Eating caviar and driving around in Ferrari's?

      AlQueida Budget per Solider: $1,000 = 1 used AK47, ammo, 10 sticks of dynamite and basic food & water.
      Warning: Network Engineer talking economics!

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      • #4
        Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

        Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
        Whew! For a minute I thought the military-industrialism was on the ropes.

        Now let's put this crap to work.

        From the mainest of mainstream new sources, some investigative reporting:
        First, some background: Back in October 2007, ABC News reported that the Pentagon had asked Congress for $88 million in the emergency Iraq/Afghanistan war funding request to develop a gargantuan bunker-busting bomb called the Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). It's a 30,000-pound bomb designed to hit targets buried 200 feet below ground. Back then, the Pentagon cited an "urgent operational need" for the new weapon.

        Now the Pentagon is shifting spending from other programs to fast forward the development and procurement of the Massive Ordnance Penetrator. The Pentagon comptroller sent a request to shift the funds to the House and Senate Appropriations and Armed Services Committees over the summer.

        The comptroller said the Pentagon planned to spend $19.1 million to procure four of the bombs, $28.3 million to accelerate the bomb's "development and testing", and $21 million to accelerate the integration of the bomb onto B-2 stealth bombers.

        The notification was tucked inside a 93-page "reprogramming" request that included a couple hundred other more mundane items.

        Why now? The notification says simply, "The Department has an Urgent Operational Need (UON) for the capability to strike hard and deeply buried targets in high threat environments. The MOP is the weapon of choice to meet the requirements of the UON." It further states that the request is endorsed by Pacific Command (which has responsibility over North Korea) and Central Command (which has responsibility over Iran).

        I can't personally gauge what Israel might do on its own, but I'm convinced that the Obama Administration is in talk mode. However, that doesn't preclude preparation for military options. In fact, public preparation for military options probably has some value during the talking. After all, the other guy has to know you've got a big stick if speaking softly is going to work.

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        • #5
          Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

          Originally posted by Adeptus View Post
          Obligatory Video...

          "America, *uck Yeah! Savin' the M**** F**** world again!"

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI

          Adeptus
          Obligatory? One of the funniest things ever made.

          as good as

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGAgu6zI9v0

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          • #6
            Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

            Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
            Obligatory? One of the funniest things ever made.

            as good as

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGAgu6zI9v0
            On the other hand, the satirical movie from which the song (but not Adeptus's video footage) originates does make the case that Americans behaving like dicks serve a necessary function in the world order.

            See [MEDIA][/MEDIA]

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            • #7
              Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

              Originally posted by ASH View Post
              On the other hand, the satirical movie from which the song (but not Adeptus's video footage) originates does make the case that Americans behaving like dicks serve a necessary function in the world order.

              See http://<object width="425" height="3...mbed></object>
              Oh, yeah the dicks and asshole speech. How did that work out in the real world. We won in Iraq right? The world is not as black and white as dumb lefties or libertarian south parkers or bushies or anyone make it seem is it

              Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it, right?

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              • #8
                Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                Originally posted by D-Mack View Post
                Senate OKs $626B defense budget
                Deficits don't matter. Austerity doesn't matter.

                Rome burns.

                --ST (aka steveaustin2006)

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                • #9
                  Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                  Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
                  Oh, yeah the dicks and asshole speech.
                  My point is that some might mistake the message conveyed by Team America World Police if their only knowledge of the film was the lyrics of the song. It's kind of like quoting Frost as being a supporter of "good fences [making] good neighbors" without reading Mending Wall or other malapropisms such as thinking the Christian quote "suffer little children" has something to do with children suffering.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                    Originally posted by steveaustin2006 View Post
                    Deficits don't matter. Austerity doesn't matter.
                    Corporate Industrial complex has fully morphed into Chronos

                    17 - 21% unemployment, foreclosures, tent cities, on the other side, record military budgets, TARP, 0% interest rate for insider carry trades, etc. ad nausem.

                    "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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                    • #11
                      Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                      Originally posted by Adeptus View Post
                      PS. "$1 billion for every 1,000 troops added" ?!?! That's like $1 MILLION per 1 Soldier (!!!)
                      WTF are these guys doing? Eating caviar and driving around in Ferrari's?

                      AlQueida Budget per Solider: $1,000 = 1 used AK47, ammo, 10 sticks of dynamite and basic food & water.
                      Well, we care less about the conflict than Al Qaeda does -- and civilian life in America is generally more comfortable than civilian life in the populations from which Al Qaeda draws its supporters -- so the conditions of service and risk involved for our guys has to be commensurately lower in order to have a proper war. We're paying for lower casualty rates, higher combat power per soldier, better medical care, better creature comforts, and the overhead of delivering all that in the middle of nowhere. And yeah -- I think your remark about Ferraris was pretty close... those MRAP vehicles are pretty damn costly.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                        Originally posted by Diarmuid View Post
                        Corporate Industrial complex has fully morphed into Chronos

                        17 - 21% unemployment, foreclosures, tent cities, on the other side, record military budgets, TARP, 0% interest rate for insider carry trades, etc. ad nausem.

                        Saturn eats his children. One of my faves. It's at the Prado.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                          Originally posted by ASH View Post
                          Well, we care less about the conflict than Al Qaeda does -- and civilian life in America is generally more comfortable than civilian life in the populations from which Al Qaeda draws its supporters -- so the conditions of service and risk involved for our guys has to be commensurately lower in order to have a proper war. We're paying for lower casualty rates, higher combat power per soldier, better medical care, better creature comforts, and the overhead of delivering all that in the middle of nowhere. And yeah -- I think your remark about Ferraris was pretty close... those MRAP vehicles are pretty damn costly.
                          I don't want to debate the War. Bush, Cheney and his Haliburton friends fucked up big time in Iraq. And the dick vs. asshole speech in Team America is dead wrong. The world just isn't that simple.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                            Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
                            Oh, yeah the dicks and asshole speech. How did that work out in the real world. We won in Iraq right? The world is not as black and white as dumb lefties or libertarian south parkers or bushies or anyone make it seem is it

                            Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it, right?

                            ]
                            I think a better analogy is sometimes you have to burn the forest down to let life grow anew. If there is anything we can say about the modern world, pervasive peace and prosperity has certainly made life rather boring and trite.

                            Life only has meaning when you can lose it at any moment.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Senate OKs $626B defense budget

                              Originally posted by ASH View Post
                              My point is that some might mistake the message conveyed by Team America World Police if their only knowledge of the film was the lyrics of the song. It's kind of like quoting Frost as being a supporter of "good fences [making] good neighbors" without reading Mending Wall or other malapropisms such as thinking the Christian quote "suffer little children" has something to do with children suffering.
                              Team America has a pretty confused message. Post 9-11 was a weird time. I think America Fuck yeah was meant just as we are using it. Plus the puppet sex was great.

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