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    I apologize if someone has already posted this, but it's such a well presented argument that I believe it warrants posting. The treasury auction action in the coming weeks should be telling. Anyone want to take any guesses at how this plays out?

    In short:

    I would submit that the US lacks sufficient domestic savings and productive capacity to finance its fiscal deficits internally so I propose that there are only two paths forward. Either foreigners continue to finance the US deficits, or the Fed will resort to even more printing to cover the shortfall.
    Where will the foreigners get the money? Alternatively, how will they react if the Fed simply prints up the difference?

    Insatiable Demand For US Debt, or Something Else?

    Thursday, October 1, 2009, 1:28 pm, by cmartenson

    Recently the Fed reiterated that their $300 billion program of buying long-dated Treasury Bonds would end on schedule, meaning as soon as it hit $300 billion. Well, that's been achieved, so according to recent Fed statements, the program is over.
    This is a critical development, because the ability of the US government to continue to fund its massive deficits (at favorable rates) requires that each Treasury Auction be "well bid." The Fed has been a major participant, and so we might reasonably wonder who will fill the Fed's shoes.
    This is critical, because the US government continues to float weekly auctions of Treasuries in quantities that just a few short years ago would have been unthinkable.
    Exhibit A: Next week's schedule:
    Monday (Oct 5), 10 year TIPS: $7 billion
    Tuesday (Oct 6), 3-year notes: $39 billion
    Wednesday (Oct 7), 10-year notes: $20 billion
    Thursday (Oct 8), 30-year bonds: $12 billion
    That's $78 billion dollars over the course of just four days.
    While not record-breaking compared to the amounts offered (and snapped up) in early 2009, for perspective, $78 billion is equivalent to the entire yearly economic output of Bangladesh, a nation of some 160 million souls. Let's be honest, $78 billion is a lot of money, it really is, although I will understand these days if you've become numb to such staggeringly large numbers. I know I have.
    If we go to the Federal Reserve website, we can see that over the course of 28 weeks, the Federal Reserve has already accumulated slightly more than $300 billion in its Long-Term Treasury Purchase Program:

    (Source)
    So according to its recent statements, the Fed is all done buying long-dated Treasuries. I say 'apparently' because the Federal Reserve website just announced its next raft of Long-Dated Treasury Purchases.

    (Source)
    I am still baffled as to why the Fed is showing both that it has bought more than $300 billion in Treasuries and that it has scheduled more purchases. I assume there's some sort of clever distinction that excludes some purchases (TIPS perhaps?) from the "official total" of the Long-Term Treasury Purchase Program.
    It's either that, or the Fed (as predicted here long ago) is going to continue buying Treasuries and other US paper assets in whatever amounts it wants, whenever it wants, regardless of previously announced targets.
    In what is sure to be a coincidence, we might also observe that both of the newly announced Treasury purchases (above) happen to fall on Treasury Auction days.
    Moving along, I am wondering exactly how all the necessary US government borrowing will happen without the Federal Reserve's deep-pocketed assistance. This is not a small matter - if the US government suffers a funding accident (a.k.a. an 'auction failure'), it would the financial equivalent of a 9.8 earthquake.
    Consider that the primary sources of funds for extravagant Treasury purchases by China and Japan (et al.) in prior years were those countries' magnificent trade surpluses. Somehow, despite a global collapse in trade (does minus 30%-40% count as a 'collapse'?), the past 12 months have seen the highest ever foreign purchases of US Treasuries in history. And not just by a little bit, but by a lot.

    (Source)
    [Technical note: Because 2008 was the last year of exceptional global trade, looking at the "prior 12 months" is mixing things up a little bit. If we exclude 2008 purchases and instead annualize 2009 Treasury purchases, we find that 2009 is on track to fall some -10% short of 2008, indicating a recent slowdown in purchases. But still an amount that is well beyond what we could rationalize on the basis of exports.]
    Staying with the TIC data for a minute, what's even more interesting here are the buying patterns of the seven largest countries over the prior 12 months (through July of 2009):

    (Source)
    China and Japan have suffered major export collapses. Both are engaged in internal stimulus programs that are extremely large, as a percent of their GDP. How is it that they are now also engaged in Treasury purchases that are even higher than when their export markets were at peak? Where does the money come from?
    Even more interesting, the Caribbean Banking Centers are typically thought to be proxies for Hedge funds which happen to be located there for tax reasons. We might guess that these funds represent the growing US dollar carry trade.
    Next, I find it surprising that the oil exporters and Norway (another oil exporter) have stepped up their buying so vigorously this past year. Given the collapse in oil prices, I would have guessed that the oil exporters would have slowed or even reversed their accumulations of Treasuries, but that's clearly not the case. This buying is a bit of a mystery to me.
    And the UK? Who knows? The UK banking center often acts as a "pass-through" for other entities, but the oil exporters are the usual suspects in that charade. On whose behalf, then, would the UK be buying so many Treasuries?
    Conclusion

    The US government continues to have impressive borrowing needs, but the Federal Reserve has claimed to be done with its program of buying US government debt.
    At the same time, the truly spectacular inflows of foreign dollars into US Treasury paper cannot logically continue forever, especially given the collapse in export markets. There is even some mystery as to how they could have been as large as they've been.
    Taken together, it would be logical to suspect that US Treasury paper and new debt issuances would come under some pressure, which we would detect as falling bond/note prices and rising yields.
    However, that's not at all what we are currently seeing, as indicated by the 10-year note yielding a paltry 3.2% and recent auctions have had more than three buyers biding for each bond. The question before us is, can we see anything that might cause this to change?
    I would submit that the US lacks sufficient domestic savings and productive capacity to finance its fiscal deficits internally so I propose that there are only two paths forward. Either foreigners continue to finance the US deficits, or the Fed will resort to even more printing to cover the shortfall.
    Where will the foreigners get the money? Alternatively, how will they react if the Fed simply prints up the difference?
    As always, trust yourself.

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    Re: Treasury Conundrum

    thanks very much for posting this - confirms that we are going to h*** in a handbasket

    uggh

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      Re: Treasury Conundrum

      Originally posted by pangea View Post
      I apologize if someone has already posted this, but it's such a well presented argument that I believe it warrants posting. The treasury auction action in the coming weeks should be telling. Anyone want to take any guesses at how this plays out?
      There is no indication that the USA will have any trouble rolling over its existing sovereign debt or selling new debt, for the time being.

      Martenson says:
      "...I would submit that the US lacks sufficient domestic savings and productive capacity to finance its fiscal deficits internally so I propose that there are only two paths forward. Either foreigners continue to finance the US deficits, or the Fed will resort to even more printing to cover the shortfall..."

      I would respond "This is news?". The US has lacked sufficient domestic savings to finance its fiscal deficits for several decades. Remember Bernanke's infamous "global savings glut" and what a favour the USA was doing for the world to import it all...:rolleyes:

      The world supports the Dollar because it's the reserve currency, not because the fundamentals are particularly compelling or likely to improve any time soon. Yes, there is the risk that the world either will not, or cannot, support the Dollar's reserve currency status to the same degree it has in the past. The recent G20 decision to have the IMF issue SDRs is a case in point.

      But as iTulip keeps pointing out, it's a process, not an event. I don't think the Treasury auction action in the coming weeks will tell us anything new.

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        Re: Treasury Conundrum

        Martenson would have done his readers a much better service had he looked into the details of the foreign purchases more closely.

        Doing so yields a very different picture than what he draws.

        China, for example, is funding their share of the US Treasury sales - going from $550B to $727B to $800B in the July 2008, December 2008, and July 2009 monthly snapshots. Good partner!

        Japan, however, has gone from $637B to $626B to $724B in the same time frame. This seems odd until you look at the new government in Japan - maybe a case of front loading? :eek:

        Similarly the UK has gone from $66B to $131B to $220B - a massive change for a nation with about a $10B trade surplus with the US

        Caribbean: $117B, $197B, $193B - or in other words, flat for all Obama

        Oil exporters: $163B, $186B, $189B - ditto flat for all Obama

        Grand totals: $2624B, $3077B, $3428B

        So from my viewpoint, Martenson's assertion is correct in one sense but leaves out very important nuances.

        The Caribbean, the oil exporters, most of the EU nations, Russia, Brazil, etc have effectively purchased NO Treasuries in 2009.

        China, Japan, the UK and Hong Kong have been buying heavily - indeed unusually heavily - but Japan may drop out of the mix soon. In fact these 4 represent $300B of the $350B net change from December 2008 to July 2009. It can be argued that outside of these four, the ROW has been effectively flat for all Obama regarding Treasury purchases.

        Note: $30B out of the $50B is accounted for by India, France, and Canada. This represents 33%, 50%, and 125% increases on Treasury holdings as of December 2008 for these 3 nations.

        Were Japan's contribution removed - that was a good $98B or 1/3 of the foreign Treasury holdings.

        This is why I had the question to EJ in the latest Snowball posting over whether Japan might possibly become the whip hand among the US creditors: both as a major existing holder (2nd largest) and the 2nd largest previous purchaser.

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          Re: Treasury Conundrum

          "where will they (e.g., foreign governments) get the money to fund U.S. borrowing"?

          Well let's think about that a minute shall we ...

          Last I looked, one need US dollars to buy treasury bonds (of course perhaps this is no longer true or will change soon:confused.

          One can get U.S. $ by selling stuff to the US in exchange for the $ (like China has been doing for the last decade). So China has a reserve stash of $ and could buy US debt with that until it runs out .... but what then, assuming US consumers aren't buying enough from China to keep China flush with $ to continue to buy US debt ....?

          Oh, let us now consider FOREX. One paper fiat currency can always be substituted/exchanged for another, so governments, China, Jp, UK, can print renimbi,yen, sterling all they want and exchange for $ at will. If the US will debase its currency, then why would not other governments buy $ with their own debased currency? This is the key to understanding that there is no check on coordinated global monetary inflation if the governments can agree to cooperate.

          The world is flooded with liquidity, and can in principle be flooded with all fiat currencies by the governments aound the world. The Fed and other CBs can expand their balance sheets at will with no limits. Wake up to the fact there is no limit, save complete loss of Confidence in gov money, to how much money can be created and distributed as gov deem necessary.

          This is what the people who keep talking about "there's not enough money to pay for all this debt" don't get. In fact, there is an endless supply of money, and this is also what the Austrians seem to miss in their purist view that real wealth can only be built from savings, blah blah blah, which while may be an intuitive notion that rings true and comports with one's sense of justice (and may be true in the very long run) is quite evidently NOT TRUE, at least in the short-medium term.

          The world of global fiat currency is itself a giant ponzi scheme, that need not die (even though it ought to) for great long time. This is why folks calling for new bull markets etc see IMO.

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            Re: Treasury Conundrum

            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
            Martenson would have done his readers a much better service had he looked into the details of the foreign purchases more closely.

            Doing so yields a very different picture than what he draws.

            China, for example, is funding their share of the US Treasury sales - going from $550B to $727B to $800B in the July 2008, December 2008, and July 2009 monthly snapshots. Good partner!

            Japan, however, has gone from $637B to $626B to $724B in the same time frame. This seems odd until you look at the new government in Japan - maybe a case of front loading? :eek:

            Similarly the UK has gone from $66B to $131B to $220B - a massive change for a nation with about a $10B trade surplus with the US

            Caribbean: $117B, $197B, $193B - or in other words, flat for all Obama

            Oil exporters: $163B, $186B, $189B - ditto flat for all Obama

            Grand totals: $2624B, $3077B, $3428B

            So from my viewpoint, Martenson's assertion is correct in one sense but leaves out very important nuances.

            The Caribbean, the oil exporters, most of the EU nations, Russia, Brazil, etc have effectively purchased NO Treasuries in 2009.

            China, Japan, the UK and Hong Kong have been buying heavily - indeed unusually heavily - but Japan may drop out of the mix soon. In fact these 4 represent $300B of the $350B net change from December 2008 to July 2009. It can be argued that outside of these four, the ROW has been effectively flat for all Obama regarding Treasury purchases.

            Note: $30B out of the $50B is accounted for by India, France, and Canada. This represents 33%, 50%, and 125% increases on Treasury holdings as of December 2008 for these 3 nations.

            Were Japan's contribution removed - that was a good $98B or 1/3 of the foreign Treasury holdings.

            This is why I had the question to EJ in the latest Snowball posting over whether Japan might possibly become the whip hand among the US creditors: both as a major existing holder (2nd largest) and the 2nd largest previous purchaser.
            pls, someone quick go to chris' site and tell him about NET foreign purchases.





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