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  • #16
    Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

    Originally posted by Mashuri View Post
    In the medium term, this may be a great call. Will iTulip take credit for it? :p
    Actually, EJ's current allocation would actually benefit from such event; the inverse is true as well. Brilliant.

    Talk about recouping subscription fees. :p

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    • #17
      Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

      Whats everybody's fixation on always being in "something"? Plain and simply, you buy stocks to receive a ROI/dividend/income and the capital appreciation is just icing on the cake.... Alot of stocks have a P/E of 50+ and the S&P has a P/E of ~150+... Do you really think its going up further? And if it does, what do you get? Unjustified risk and probably whipsaws that will make your stomach turn.....

      The market is over priced and i wouldn't be getting a dividend that justifies buying... At a 150 P/E i would have to be on crack in order to buy this BS...

      You buy gold to hedge the dollar. The only reason to truly buy stocks with investment (not speculative) cash, is fundamentals and dividends unless your day trading.....

      If your in it for speculative, thats fine, as long as you are not fooling yourself into thinking that you are investing. Investing requires an ROI, not simply unjustified capital appreciation because that can quickly disappear, sort of like the housing bubble wealth and in the stock market it does ALOT faster...

      If your just trading then by all means buy/sell whatever you like and it shouldn't matter which way the market goes, bc a trader makes money going long or short.

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      • #18
        Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

        Originally posted by metalman View Post
        what's cheap? buy that.
        Advice on what to invest in now would seem to fit this definition...

        ...but not sure how to "buy" that...:rolleyes:

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        • #19
          Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

          Here's an idea for you Mike. I think you could use it, and I hear that prices are down so that could fit Metalman's criteria of "buy what's cheap".

          Last edited by rjwjr; September 25, 2009, 09:00 AM. Reason: I think she only accepts "hard" currencies.
          "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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          • #20
            Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

            Originally posted by karim0028 View Post
            Plain and simply, you buy stocks to receive a ROI/dividend/income and the capital appreciation is just icing on the cake....
            At least that's why you should buy stocks ... in a perfect world ... but when there is inflation people can also buy stocks because they can act as an inflation hedge; dividends can reprice to reflect inflation, while bond coupons normally do not.

            Originally posted by karim0028 View Post
            Whats everybody's fixation on always being in "something"?...
            How can you not be in something? At least if you consider cash to be something. And why wouldn't you? Cash can go up and down like anything else. Only difference is that if you do your accounting in cash units, it looks like it's not doing anything. If you allow that each available asset class is something - whether cash, bonds, stocks, commodities, etceteras - there is no such thing as being invested in nothing. Not unless you take a vow of poverty and join the brotherhood!
            Finster
            ...

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            • #21
              Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

              Originally posted by Mega View Post
              When you buy in?
              Mike
              (Am Waiting Metal!)
              icm63's on the right track.

              how about we have fred move this thread to select and we make this a search for beat to shit bear funds... not the 2x etfs, tho. we learned our lesson with srs.

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              • #22
                Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

                Originally posted by Finster View Post
                Only difference is that if you do your accounting in cash units, it looks like it's not doing anything.
                Given the human frailities of many of us that are exposed by our investment decisions, this apparent inactivity can be a rather useful property of cash. When we view the value of an item rising and falling, we tend to buy high, sell low along with the rest of the crowd and lose more money than just sitting there. Even if we manage to come out even on our investment decisions, we often raise our anxiety level and distract our attention from more worthwhile endeavors.

                Gold has similar advantages to cash, for those who view it as "real money", the ultimate long term store of value.
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                • #23
                  Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

                  Originally posted by Finster View Post
                  At least that's why you should buy stocks ... in a perfect world ... but when there is inflation people can also buy stocks because they can act as an inflation hedge; dividends can reprice to reflect inflation, while bond coupons normally do not.



                  How can you not be in something? At least if you consider cash to be something. And why wouldn't you? Cash can go up and down like anything else. Only difference is that if you do your accounting in cash units, it looks like it's not doing anything. If you allow that each available asset class is something - whether cash, bonds, stocks, commodities, etceteras - there is no such thing as being invested in nothing. Not unless you take a vow of poverty and join the brotherhood!

                  I have been in cash, bonds and tres. for 36 years. I am planning to buy some dividend "aristocrat" stocks after October 2009. I do have a stash of silver and silver coins I purchased and inherited many years ago. I am planning to buy and hold the dividend stocks I mentioned and I am going into stocks slowly and hopefully after the 4th quarter crash to 8100.

                  By the way just like before 2008 we have some serious deflation and inflation now Micro/Maceo. Its is all relative to time, space and location. Go to your local grocery store and ask how much a can of Delmote green beans were last year when with oil at $150. Also ask about the price of a gallon of milk then. I'll bet the beans are way up now and the milk is way down - All relative - Einstein got it more right than any economist - you know his brother was one of the founders of Goldman Sacs!

                  Peace

                  Cindy

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                  • #24
                    Re: Mega Fronts Metalman

                    Originally posted by Mega View Post
                    When you buy in?
                    Mike
                    (Am Waiting Metal!)
                    OK, I showed you mine....

                    (Am Waiting Mega!)

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