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    Rick Alexander: A Builder by Trade, With Too Much Time

    In the worst case, Rick Alexander figured, he could scrounge up a job at Home Depot.

    He was a master carpenter, after all. He had skills. He had run his own successful home-restoration business for 28 years.

    In early 2008, however, he moved to Florida to take care of his ailing parents, leaving his business in Connecticut to his daughter.

    After helping his parents into an assisted-living facility, he began applying for jobs. He devoted eight hours a day to the task, sometimes sending out three or four applications a day.

    “It was a full-time job,” he said.

    At first, he focused on jobs in construction, applying to be a site supervisor. He looked for anything within an hour’s commute of where he was living in Jensen Beach.

    But the real estate industry had fallen off precipitously, bringing building to a near standstill. Mr. Alexander, 58, began branching out to suppliers, applying at lumberyards and other wholesalers. Eventually, he expanded his search to Home Depot, Lowe’s and mom-and-pop hardware stores. Finally, he began applying for “everything under the sun,” even the overnight shift at convenience stores.

    By that summer, he had still received no callbacks for interviews. He went back to Connecticut for several weeks to do a renovation for an old client to earn some cash. When he returned to Florida in August 2008, he tried to start his own business, selling advertising on video displays mounted in coffee shops and other places.

    He networked furiously with local businesses, but by then the economy had nose-dived. Mr. Alexander said he grossed a total of $150. He sank into a funk and stopped looking.

    “There are thousands of people applying for every job I’m looking at, and potential employers won’t even give me the courtesy of acknowledging I applied,” he said. “The entirety of that causes me not to bother. It’s a waste of my time and theirs.”

    He has applied to just two jobs this year, both several months ago. The unemployment rate in his area, Martin County, now exceeds 11 percent. After prodding from his companion, Dona Olinger, he went down to Home Depot a little over a month ago to re-activate his application there.

    His savings are gone. He lives with Ms. Olinger, who makes $10 an hour as a volunteer coordinator at a food pantry, Harvest Food and Outreach Center, where they also get groceries every week. It is her salary that pays their rent.

    Mr. Alexander’s parents have since moved out of the assisted-living facility and back into their home, so he tends to them most days. He reads Robert Ludlum novels. He sleeps. To fill his time, he is looking into volunteer work.
    The other day, he cut the grass on his small lawn using just a pair of clippers.

    Ray Rucker: Feeling Counted Out With Years Still Left

    Ray Rucker came home from a job interview several months ago, sat down in his living room with his suit still on and wept.

    The meeting with the interviewer had lasted 10 minutes. The man did not even open a folder in front of him to study Mr. Rucker’s résumé. It was just “jibber jabber,” Mr. Rucker said later.

    Mr. Rucker, who lives in Overland Park, Kan., had little doubt about what had happened. He is 62 years old and, as he puts it, “I look 62.”

    He lost his job as a facilities manager for Starbucks in Kansas City and Wichita, Kan., last November, when the company closed hundreds of stores across the country. He had done similar work for years for other national restaurant chains and retail outlets.

    He landed his first interview within a month, with a retail chain. He was invited back to talk to the vice president of operations and to the director of operations. He was also invited to meet with the company’s chief executive.

    But as Mr. Rucker was finishing with the director of operations, she asked him straight out whether he was retiring soon. Shocked, Mr. Rucker answered, truthfully, that he planned to work at least 10 more years.

    The meeting with the chief executive never came. Mr. Rucker said he thinks his interviewer simply did not believe he planned to continue working.

    A month ago, he found a job posting that seemed tailored for him, a facilities manager for a national restaurant chain. He sent in his résumé and three days later got called for an interview. The company official said he was in a hurry to fill the position. But Mr. Rucker soon learned that this one, too, had slipped from his grasp.

    “That’s the one when I kind of threw in the towel,” he said.

    Mr. Rucker said he was done looking. His wife, who works at a small nonprofit organization, protested, saying there was more he could do to look.

    “You don’t know what I’m going through,” Mr. Rucker said he told her.

    “You send out so much, and you don’t get responses,” he said. “Then when you get called in, you’re treated like you’re too old. Why am I doing this?”

    So he made an appointment with the local Social Security office to begin claiming benefits. He might try to get some kind of hourly job to help make ends meet. He has mapped out some home renovation projects he wants to do.

    The Social Security checks will not equal even a third of what he used to make. But he is now preparing for semiretirement.


    Jenny Salinas: From a Nonstop Career to a Focus on the Home

    Jenny Salinas never envisioned being a stay-at-home mother, taking care of the children and keeping house. She was the one with the high-powered career, the six-figure salary, always jetting off to Russia or China.

    She put her 5-year-old daughter, Mia, in day care when she was three months old. Mia got so used to her mother going away she would simply say, “Mommy’s on a trip,” and blow her kisses when she left.

    But after searching unsuccessfully since January for a job, Mrs. Salinas, 37, said her priorities had shifted. She is now content to stay home and focus on her family. She and her husband are even talking about having more children.

    “It’s just amazing how it changes your perspective on what’s important,” she said.

    Mrs. Salinas had been a manager of corporate marketing and media relations at an oil and gas company in Houston, where she lives. She was so focused on her career, she said, that she never noticed her daughter had a lazy eye. Mrs. Salinas’s mother mentioned something to her, but only after Mrs. Salinas was laid off did she realize that her daughter needed to see an ophthalmologist.

    “That’s how much I was on my BlackBerry,” Mrs. Salinas said.

    Mrs. Salinas was initially confident that she would land somewhere quickly.
    She seemed to be doing well, too, scoring interview after interview for senior-level corporate marketing positions. But each of those prospects dried up, usually because of a hiring freeze or some other obstacle.

    So, for the last two months, she has not looked at all. Partly, she has been busy, selling their old house, moving into a new one they are renting at half the monthly expense, seeing her daughter off to kindergarten.

    She is helped by the fact that her husband, a vice president at an advertising agency, still has his job. After the couple realized that her job search might take time, they decided to cut back on their spending.

    She has in mind a specific set of companies, but they are all still not hiring.
    Unwilling to settle for just any job, she said, she would rather bide her time.

    But the process of searching for work and coming up empty has also left her feeling spent.

    “I was just discouraged, fed up and angry, feeling like my career had betrayed me,” she said.

    Her daughter used to be in day care or preschool from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m., but Mrs. Salinas began dropping her off later and picking her up earlier. Some days, they skip day care completely and while away the day together.

    Tatjana Jovanovic-Grove: Moving From Serbia, Scraping By Online

    Tatjana Jovanovic-Grove now occupies her days with arts and crafts projects. She makes a little money selling them online — $10 here, $50 there — but mostly it beats the sense of futility that used to envelop her each day during her quest to find a job.

    “I stopped looking because that feeling of being rejected again and again is hard,” she said. “It’s just like somebody punching you in the face.”

    Ms. Jovanovic-Grove, 41, has struggled to find work since she immigrated in late 2005 to the United States from her native Serbia, where she was a biology researcher at a prestigious research institute in Belgrade.

    She had married an American, Doug Grove, 42, a Wal-Mart mechanic she met over the Internet. The couple initially lived in Glendale, Ariz., with their three children from previous marriages, but they moved to Winston-Salem, N.C., in late 2007.

    They were attracted by the weather and the low crime rate. They also thought Ms. Jovanovic-Grove, who earned a master’s degree in Serbia in environmental protection and zoology, would have an easier time finding a job in an area rich with universities.

    “I was really thinking I would have no problem,” she said.

    The need for her to find work became more urgent after the couple took on thousands of dollars in additional debt after they turned their Arizona home over to a bank in lieu of a foreclosure settlement. They had been unable to sell it amid the state’s collapsing real estate market.

    But aside from a few temporary jobs, Ms. Jovanovic-Grove has come up empty on everything from research assistant positions to retail jobs.
    Meanwhile, her husband’s hours at Wal-Mart, where he is paid a little more than $14 an hour, have been cut back.

    In May, she stopped looking completely, concluding that the job market was saturated. Winston-Salem’s unemployment rate exceeded 10 percent.

    “You figure out it’s just like when you toss a piece of meat at a pack of hungry cats,” she said. “I just gave up because I could not compete.”

    Instead, she has turned to making wood handicrafts and selling them on Etsy.com, an online marketplace. The small payments she gets often mean she earns less than fifty cents an hour for her effort. But she reasoned it is better than wasting gas driving around applying for jobs she believes she cannot get.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/07/us...ef=todayspaper

  • #2
    Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

    This is only the beginning of Great Depression II. I thank God everyday for my job.

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    • #3
      Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

      If the economy's in the crapper and you can't find a job...why would you be thinking of having more kids? :confused:

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      • #4
        Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

        Originally posted by drumminj View Post
        If the economy's in the crapper and you can't find a job...why would you be thinking of having more kids? :confused:
        Because they think everything will eventually go back to the way it was.

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        • #5
          Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

          Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
          Because they think everything will eventually go back to the way it was.

          I think greed might have something to do with it too.

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          • #6
            Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

            Originally posted by roxtar View Post
            I think greed might have something to do with it too.

            Why do you say that?

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            • #7
              Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

              Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
              Why do you say that?
              Sounds to me as if Mrs. Salinas may have made the transition from highly driven corporate big wig to toxic wife.

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              • #8
                Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                Originally posted by roxtar View Post
                Sounds to me as if Mrs. Salinas may have made the transition from highly driven corporate big wig to toxic wife.
                Interesting interpretation.

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                • #9
                  Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                  Don,

                  What was your purpose in posting these? What is your proposed solution?

                  Personally, I think these bleeding-heart articles and posts are a colossal waste of time. What are your plans for future posts...cancer victims...cats in need of good homes...starving kids in Africa?

                  Yeah, yeah there is plenty of misery out there if you look for it. So what do you want us to do now that you've posted? Do you feel better about yourself now that you've "done something" about the problem?

                  What's your credo?..."Somebody ought to do something!"
                  "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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                  • #10
                    Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                    Originally posted by billydixon View Post
                    This is only the beginning of Great Depression II. I thank God everyday for my job.
                    You may also want to thank your employer, just to cover all bases.
                    "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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                    • #11
                      Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                      These posts are relevant in two ways.

                      One, they're the anecdotal playing out of the predictions and analysis done here at iTulip.

                      Two, they shed light on how the main stream media is shaping and messaging events.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                        Originally posted by billydixon View Post
                        I thank God everyday for my job.
                        Don't worry billy, there will always be the U.S. army.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                          Originally posted by rjwjr
                          What was your purpose in posting these?
                          I believe it is called the Bullhorn and the Kazoo.

                          I know who's got my vote for Bullhorn here...

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                          • #14
                            Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                            Originally posted by don View Post
                            These posts are relevant in two ways.

                            One, they're the anecdotal playing out of the predictions and analysis done here at iTulip.

                            Two, they shed light on how the main stream media is shaping and messaging events.
                            Yeah, okay, if you say so.

                            I don't see how they pertain to any aspect of the iTulip predictions other than they have predicted something like 7,000,000 newly unemployed once this downturn plays-out. So, do you have another 6,999,996 stories you intend to post. I still don't see what relevance these 4 stories have?

                            So, what is your opinion of how "main stream media is shaping and messaging events" based on your post?
                            "...the western financial system has already failed. The failure has just not yet been realized, while the system remains confident that it is still alive." Jesse

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                            • #15
                              Re: Unemployed MIA- 4 stories

                              I for one appreciate these threads: it gives color to the stark statistics of unemployment.

                              Some of these people were had jobs that were real estate related, some of them had jobs that were CRE related, some had jobs that were consumption related.

                              None of them were corporate high flyers, CEOs, or what not.

                              It can be argued that they 'should' have known better, but each and every one of these bought into the argument of doing what you love, what's in front of you, what everyone is doing, etc etc.

                              So again, if a thread offend thee, ignore.

                              Ditto a self righteous Bullhorn...

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