Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

[Fiat Currency]

Re: Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

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Hmmmmm....

[skidder]

Re: Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

Okay, anyone care to comment? (as in WTFO?)

"Here at ZeroHedge, we are expecting a flock of economic black swans soon, and a pandemic -- whether real or hyped -- may be part of this flock. An economic collapse will be no doubt be triggered soon , and it will be convenient for the political elites to blame the collapse on an external factor, such as a pandemic or a war. Furthermore, the fall H1N1 pandemic may be a convenient pretext by which dangerous levels of expanding social control can be established by elites which have proven themselves utterly corrupt and morally bankrupt."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/cdc...tine-docs-leak

I hate to post a "Rense.com" article because they have some seriously looney stuff over there at times. However, this article references an Iowa Dept of Health post which I read on other sites and I believe is accurate.

http://www.rense.com/general87/deor.htm

There are a lot of interesting reports like this which are meaningless when considered individually but seem to indicate a pre-meditated plan to unconstitutionally detain americans when viewed together. I haven't seen anyone reference the lastest bill passed by the Senate in Massachusetts which is quite an eye opener when viewed through the lens of what we have been taught are our constitutional rights. It confirms the forced vaccination OR forced detention charge.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...02/st02028.htm

"SECTION 13. Said chapter 111, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by striking out section 95 and inserting in place thereof the following section:-

Section 95. (a) Whenever the commissioner, or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction, determines that there is reasonable cause to believe that a disease or condition dangerous to the public health exists or may exist or that there is an immediate risk of an outbreak of such a disease or condition, and that certain measures are necessary to decrease or eliminate the risk to public health, the commissioner or local public health authority may issue an order. The order may be a verbal order in exigent circumstances, and in such case it shall be followed by a written order as soon as reasonably possible. The written order shall specify the reasons for it, and may include, but is not limited to:

(1) requiring the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;
(2) requiring the owner or occupier of premises to close the premises or a specific part of the premises, and allowing reopening of the premises when the danger has ended;
(3) requiring the placarding of premises to give notice of an order requiring the closing of the premises;
(4) requiring the cleaning or disinfection, or both, of the premises or the thing specified in the order;
(5) requiring the destruction of the matter or thing specified in the order.

The written order shall be delivered personally to the person to whom it is directed, but if that is not possible, it shall be delivered in a manner that is reasonably calculated to notify such person of it.
If a person does not comply with the order, and if the commissioner or the local public health authority determines that non-compliance poses a serious danger to public health,upon request or issuance of an order by the commissioner or local public health authority, an officer authorized to serve criminal process may arrest without a warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated such an order and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order.
If a person does not comply with the order within the time specified in the order, but the non-compliance does not pose a serious danger to public health, the commissioner or the local public health authority may apply to a judge of the superior court for an order requiring the person to comply with the order within the time specified in the order of the court; and to take whatever other action the court considers appropriate in the circumstances to protect the public health. The law enforcement authorities of the city or town where the person is present shall enforce the court order.
Any person who knowingly violates an order, as to which non-compliance poses a serious danger to public health as determined by the commissioner or the local public health authority, shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 30 days or a fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues, or both. It shall not be a defense to a prosecution for this offense that the commissioner or the local public health authority erroneously determined that non-compliance would pose a serious danger to public health, if the commissioner or local public health authority was acting in good faith under color of official authority.
A person who knowingly violates any other order issued under this subsection may be subject to a civil fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues. Any fine collected for any violation of this section shall be credited fifty percent to the courts and fifty percent to the health care safety net trust fund.
The commissioner or the local public health authority may recover expenses incurred in enforcing the order from the person to whom the order was directed, by action in the superior court.

(b) Furthermore, when the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction determines that either or both of the following measures are necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health the commissioner or local public health authority may exercise the following authority:

(1) to vaccinate or provide precautionary prophylaxis to individuals as protection against communicable disease and to prevent the spread of communicable or possibly communicable disease, provided that any vaccine to be administered must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual; and
(2) to treat individuals exposed to or infected with disease, provided that treatment must not be such as is reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual.
An individual who is unable or unwilling to submit to vaccination or treatment shall not be required to submit to such procedures but may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health, as determined by the commissioner, or a local public health authority operating within its jurisdiction.

(c) Furthermore, when the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction determines that either or both of the following measures are necessary to prevent a serious danger to the public health, the commissioner or local public health authority may exercise the following authority:

(1) to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any individual; provided that decontamination measures must be by the least restrictive means necessary to protect the public health and must be such as are not reasonably likely to lead to serious harm to the affected individual; and
(2) to perform physical examinations, tests, and specimen collection necessary to diagnose a disease or condition and ascertain whether an individual presents a risk to public health.
If an individual is unable or unwilling to submit to decontamination or procedures necessary for diagnosis, the decontamination or diagnosis procedures may proceed only pursuant to an order of the superior court. During the time necessary to obtain such court order, such individual may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal to submit to decontamination or diagnosis procedures poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health.

(d) (1) When the commissioner or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction reasonably believes that a person may have been exposed to a disease or condition that poses a threat to the public health, in addition to their authority under section 96 of chapter 111, the commissioner or the local public health authority may detain the person for as long as may be reasonably necessary for the commissioner or the local public health authority, to convey information to the person regarding the disease or condition and to obtain contact information, including but not limited to the person’s residence and employment addresses, date of birth, and telephone numbers.
(2) If a person detained under subsection (1) refuses to provide the information requested, the person may be isolated or quarantined pursuant to section 96 of chapter 111 if his or her refusal poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health.

(e) This section does not affect the authority of the commissioner or a local public health authority to take action under any other provision of law or under any regulation promulgated pursuant to law.

SECTION 14. Said chapter 111, as so appearing, is hereby further amended by striking out section 96 and inserting in place thereof the following section:-

Section 96. (a) In this section, “isolation” means separation, for the period of communicability, of infected individuals or animals from other individuals or animals in such places and under such conditions as will prevent the direct or indirect transmission of an infectious agent to susceptible people or to other individuals or animals who may spread the agent to others. In this section, “quarantine” means restricting the freedom of movement of well individuals or domestic animals that have been exposed to a communicable disease for a period of time relating to the usual incubation period of the disease, in order to prevent effective contact with those not so exposed. In this section, “disease or condition dangerous to the public health” does not include acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) or the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).
(b) Whenever the commissioner, or a local public health authority within its jurisdiction, determines that an individual or group of individuals has or may have a disease or condition dangerous to the public health or is or may be infected with an agent of such a disease or condition, which disease or condition is transmissible between people and poses a serious danger to public health, the commissioner, or a local public health authority may order such individual or group to be isolated or quarantined. An order for isolation or quarantine may include any individual who is unwilling or unable to undergo vaccination, precautionary prophylaxis, medical treatment, decontamination, medical examinations, tests, or specimen collection and whose refusal of one or more of these measures poses a serious danger to public health or results in uncertainty whether he or she has been exposed to or is infected with a disease or condition that poses a serious danger to public health. The order may be a verbal order in exigent circumstances, and in such case it shall be followed by a written order as soon as reasonably possible. The written order shall be delivered personally, but if that is not possible, it shall be delivered in a manner that is reasonably calculated to notify the individual or group of it. In the case of a group, this may include delivery through the mass media and posting in a place where group members are reasonably likely to see it.
(c) Isolation and quarantine orders must utilize the least restrictive means necessary to prevent a serious danger to public health, and may include, but are not limited to, restricting a person from being present in certain places including but not limited to school or work; confinement to private homes; confinement to other private or public premises; or isolation or quarantine of an area.
(d) An officer authorized to serve criminal process may arrest without a warrant any person whom the officer has probable cause to believe has violated an order for isolation or quarantine and shall use reasonable diligence to enforce such order.
(e) Any person who knowingly violates an order for isolation or quarantine shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 30 days and may be subject to a civil fine of not more than one thousand dollars per day that the violation continues.
(f) (1) When the commissioner or a local public health authority requires a resident wage earner to be isolated or quarantined, or requires isolation or quarantine of a child under fifteen years of age of whom the wage earner has custody and responsibility, or otherwise interferes with following of his or her employment for the protection of public health, he or she shall be deemed eligible to receive unemployment benefits pursuant to chapter 151A to the extent permitted by federal law.
(2) It shall be a violation of section 4 of chapter 151B for an employer to discharge or reduce any benefits of an employee because he or she is subject to an order of isolation or quarantine, or because a child under fifteen years of age of whom the wage earner has custody and responsibility is subject to an order of isolation or quarantine.
(g) This section does not affect the authority of the department to isolate or quarantine individuals with active tuberculosis pursuant to the requirements and procedures specified in sections 94A through 94H of chapter 111, and regulations promulgated under those sections."


. It also suspends privacy rights and a few others that are irrelevant to the topic at hand, it's worth the read for anyone who lives in that state.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

I hate to post a "Rense.com" article because they have some seriously looney stuff over there at times. However, this article references an Iowa Dept of Health post which I read on other sites and I believe is accurate.

http://www.rense.com/general87/deor.htm

That rense.com article is copied (but w/o working links) from GlobalResearch.CA (another site that seems to have lower editorial standards than iTulip .) The original GlobalResearch post with working links can be found at http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=15064. That article has links to two IOWA template orders that are available on the cdc.gov site, at HOME QUARANTINE ORDER and FACILITY QUARANTINE ORDER (pdf). These two orders are fill in the blank templates to (1) order you to remain in your home and (2) if you don't have a suitable home or fail to comply with that first order, to "quarantine your movement to a specific facility." These orders specifically apply to people who have been identified as having:

contact with Novel Influenza A H1N1. Novel Influenza A H1N1 is a disease which is spread from person to person and is associated with fever (greater than 100.0 F), cough, sore throat, rhinorrhea (runny nose), nasal congestion, body aches, headache, chills and fatigue

Yes - just contact. Yes - just a rather routine list of flu symptoms. Anyone whom the state determines has had contact with anyone suffering from flu-like symptoms could be subject to this quarantine.

Perhaps more interesting, this http://www2a.cdc.gov/phlp/H1N1flu.asp CDC site lists by state and in other ways the preparations being taken for H1N1. This page begins:

2009 H1N1 Flu Legal Preparedness

The recent outbreak of A/H1N1 “swine flu” in the United States and countries around the world has triggered public health emergency legal responses in many jurisdictions and sectors. Please visit this page regularly for current information about legal actions and other relevant legal information as it becomes available.

On This Page

• Federal Guidance
• Federal Legal Actions
• State Legal Actions
• State Legal Tools
• International Legal Actions
• Secondary Sources
• Presentations
• Legal Preparedness Tools

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

I haven't seen anyone reference the lastest bill passed by the Senate in Massachusetts which is quite an eye opener when viewed through the lens of what we have been taught are our constitutional rights. It confirms the forced vaccination OR forced detention charge.

The idea that the government has the right to mass imprison the population in response to the common flu (or any other kind of flu) is abhorent, disgusting and outrageous.

I recall that the World Health Organization has changed its "pandemic" definitions to remove any mention of how deadly the disease is. My recollection is that now the common cold or any disease that spreads across several countries can meet the definition of a "global pandemic". [ P.S. I found one NPR article discussion the controversy over the WHO's definitions of flu pandemic phases at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=104384015 ]

skidder -- could you go back and edit your quoted material from the Massachusetts bill to highlight (bold or color or whatever) perhaps 5% or 10% of the most alarming content? Most of us (myself included) tend to skip over large globs of grey legal text.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: Zerohedge on H1N1: vacinations and detiontions?

The World Health Organization (WHO) has its swineflu webpage at http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html