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    The arrest of Mr. Bryant stemmed from a collision between a bicycle and an automobile in Toronto’s most prestigious shopping district late Monday evening. The episode started off as minor but swiftly escalated, leading to the death of Darcy Allan Sheppard, 33, who was identified as a bicycle courier.

    After the collision, Mr. Sheppard apparently grabbed the driver’s side door and held on. Within moments, the police received reports of a Saab convertible racing past the fashionable shops of Bloor Street with a man clinging to its side. Two construction workers doing repairs along the road told CTV, a Canadian television network, that the car accelerated, its tires squealing, before veering into oncoming traffic on the left side of the street.

    The workers said that the motorist repeatedly mounted the sidewalk and drove near lampposts in what seemed to be an attempt to brush off the man hanging onto the side.

    One of the workers said the driver was “yelling pretty loud and he sounded very, very angry.” The other worker said, “He meant to knock him off.”
    Several witnesses said that the clinging man flew off of the car after striking a mailbox. Sgt. Tim Burrows of the Toronto police traffic division said Mr. Sheppard died shortly after arriving at a hospital.

    The convertible raced into the covered driveway of a nearby luxury hotel, the witnesses said. Not long after, Mr. Bryant was filmed by television crews sitting in the back of a police cruiser. A black Saab convertible near the hotel entrance had extensive damage on its driver’s side.

    On Tuesday, Mr. Bryant left a Toronto police station after being charged. He made a brief comment, offering his “deepest condolences” to Mr. Sheppard’s family.

    As the high-profile attorney general for Ontario, Michael Bryant had championed severe and controversial traffic safety laws.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/wo...l?ref=americas

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    Re: Can't make This Up File....

    Originally posted by don View Post
    The arrest of Mr. Bryant stemmed from a collision between a bicycle and an automobile in Toronto’s most prestigious shopping district late Monday evening. The episode started off as minor but swiftly escalated, leading to the death of Darcy Allan Sheppard, 33, who was identified as a bicycle courier.

    After the collision, Mr. Sheppard apparently grabbed the driver’s side door and held on. Within moments, the police received reports of a Saab convertible racing past the fashionable shops of Bloor Street with a man clinging to its side. Two construction workers doing repairs along the road told CTV, a Canadian television network, that the car accelerated, its tires squealing, before veering into oncoming traffic on the left side of the street.

    The workers said that the motorist repeatedly mounted the sidewalk and drove near lampposts in what seemed to be an attempt to brush off the man hanging onto the side.

    One of the workers said the driver was “yelling pretty loud and he sounded very, very angry.” The other worker said, “He meant to knock him off.”
    Several witnesses said that the clinging man flew off of the car after striking a mailbox. Sgt. Tim Burrows of the Toronto police traffic division said Mr. Sheppard died shortly after arriving at a hospital.

    The convertible raced into the covered driveway of a nearby luxury hotel, the witnesses said. Not long after, Mr. Bryant was filmed by television crews sitting in the back of a police cruiser. A black Saab convertible near the hotel entrance had extensive damage on its driver’s side.

    On Tuesday, Mr. Bryant left a Toronto police station after being charged. He made a brief comment, offering his “deepest condolences” to Mr. Sheppard’s family.

    As the high-profile attorney general for Ontario, Michael Bryant had championed severe and controversial traffic safety laws.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/wo...l?ref=americas
    Whats so hard to believe ? That a person who knows he has an awesome deal would actually kill someone -so he can continue to have that life?

    I mean -in context of Pfizer with umpteen bad drugs, our representatives caught in corruption and adultery refusing to resign, an lawyer who has no idea of finance starting his own consulting firm (after being the mayor of NYC for 2 terms). The tazering of a 72 y/0 grandma by a texan policeman-and nothing happens (it is actually getting worse http://revcom.us/a/v20/970-79/978/amnesty.htm).

    It is a shame. But the cure is a call to arms by the populace and place these scoundrels with true victims. I suggest this man be remanded to 20 years hard labor under the care of the victim's family.

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    • #3
      Re: Can't make This Up File....

      Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
      Whats so hard to believe ? That a person who knows he has an awesome deal would actually kill someone -so he can continue to have that life?

      I mean -in context of Pfizer with umpteen bad drugs, our representatives caught in corruption and adultery refusing to resign, an lawyer who has no idea of finance starting his own consulting firm (after being the mayor of NYC for 2 terms). The tazering of a 72 y/0 grandma by a texan policeman-and nothing happens (it is actually getting worse http://revcom.us/a/v20/970-79/978/amnesty.htm).

      It is a shame. But the cure is a call to arms by the populace and place these scoundrels with true victims. I suggest this man be remanded to 20 years hard labor under the care of the victim's family.
      when is the last time you read about a rich lawyer/banker going to jail for any crime?

      think about it.

      and while you're thinking about that, don't count maddoff. he turned himself in to keep the russian mafia off his sons.

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      • #4
        Re: Can't make This Up File....

        Originally posted by metalman View Post
        when is the last time you read about a rich lawyer/banker going to jail for any crime?

        think about it.

        and while you're thinking about that, don't count maddoff. he turned himself in to keep the russian mafia off his sons.
        Again, it may be said, that to love justice and equality the people need no great effort of virtue; it is sufficient that they love themselves.
        Maximilien Robespierre

        “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.” –
        Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin

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        • #5
          Re: Can't make This Up File....

          Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
          Whats so hard to believe ? That a person who knows he has an awesome deal would actually kill someone -so he can continue to have that life?...

          ...It is a shame. But the cure is a call to arms by the populace and place these scoundrels with true victims. I suggest this man be remanded to 20 years hard labor under the care of the victim's family.
          You could be reading more into this than one should.

          Looks to me more like just another human being who for a brief moment exercised some terribly bad judgement, probably because of his emotional state at the time. In this instance it ended up tragically...for everyone involved.

          As for calls for "20 years of hard labour" punishment...unlike the banking system I still have confidence in the Canadian justice system [it's not perfect, but it's also not some incompetent and corrupt third world creation either]. The process will work fine and this individual will be dealt with just like any other citizen. The court will take into consideration his previous record and conduct...as they do in all cases of this sort.

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            Re: Can't make This Up File....

            workers said that the motorist repeatedly mounted the sidewalk and drove near lampposts in what seemed to be an attempt to brush off the man hanging onto the side.

            witnesses said that the clinging man flew off of the car after striking a mailbox.


            The charge against Mr. Bryant?

            criminal negligence causing death

            Cognitive Dissonance anyone.

            And the cherry on the cake:

            But it was as the province’s top law enforcement official that he (Mr. Bryant) produced the greatest controversy and acclaim of his 10-year political career.

            Among his targets were street-racing motorists. In 2007 he gave the police the power to seize and destroy cars modified for racing even if no charges were lodged against their owners.

            After describing such cars as being as dangerous as explosives, he said, “We will crush your car, we will crush the parts.”

            Later that year the province passed a bill to deem any vehicle traveling more than 50 kilometers an hour, or 31 miles an hour, faster than the speed limit to be racing. The legislation, under which more than 10,000 charges have been brought, allows the police to immediately seize vehicles and suspend licenses.


            He must be in a special road rage category all his own. Ya, you betcha.

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            • #7
              Re: Can't make This Up File....

              I commute to work on a bike and ride for fun on weekends.

              One thing I can’t understand is why the biker was holding onto the car…??

              When I ride the bike, every moving car is a potential deadly battering ram and a driver who can’t see me is dangerous to my health.

              I give cars all the room they need and expect the same, but the last thing I would do in a crash with a car is hang onto it.

              That’s suicide….

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                Re: Can't make This Up File....

                Originally posted by bobola View Post
                When I ride the bike, every moving car is a potential deadly battering ram and a driver who can’t see me is dangerous to my health.
                What's more, they never see you.

                I'm just grateful that cars back a few decades ago did not have side beam crash protection. I ended up head butting the front door, the back door, and the rear fender of a full sized car. Bang, bang, bang! Three major dents in the car; a bandaid on my head. My thick skull and strong neck muscles served me well. My bike went under the back wheel as I bounced off the fender. The bike was demolished. The poor lady driving the car never saw me until she glanced in her rear view mirror and saw this kid and bike spread over the pavement. Good thing she had a strong heart. She had pulled out in front of me from a side street, not seeing me coming down the main boulevard at 20 or 25 MPH. I had figured, incorrectly, that she had seen me, as she had stopped and seemed to look straight at me and didn't move for the ten seconds it took me to get just in the wrong place, before she stepped on the accelerator. Dang, that car looked awful long right then -- couldn't get behind it, couldn't get in front of it, couldn't stop, so head down and charge!
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                  Re: Can't make This Up File....

                  I imagine that the cyclist was extremely angry and was trying to attack the driver. He drove off in fear. The cyclist/attacker continued to yell and would not let go of the door, no matter what the driver said or did. Fearing for his life, the driver tried to make the man let go of his car. Unfortunately for him, the attacker would not.

                  If you can buy a good lawyer in Canada like you can in the United States, the cyclist family will end up paying the driver for his messed up door and psychological trauma.
                  Last edited by aaron; September 03, 2009, 04:11 PM. Reason: typos

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                  • #10
                    Re: Can't make This Up File....

                    Perhaps even a slight chance the cyclist was snagged on the car somehow? I kind of doubt a cyclist would still be clinging to the door angrily if the guy was hopping curbs! I guess if they find his hand still attached to the car then we'll know.

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                      Re: Can't make This Up File....

                      Originally posted by aaron View Post
                      I imagine that the cyclist was extremely angry and was trying to attack the driver. He drove off in fear. The cyclist/attacker continued to yell and would not let go of the door, no matter what the driver said or did. Fearing for his life, the driver tried to make the man let go of his car. Unfortunately for him, the attacker would not.

                      If you can buy a good lawyer in Canada like you can in the United States, the cyclist family will end up paying the driver for his messed up door and psychological trauma.
                      Aaron: You get an A for sAtire

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                      • #12
                        Re: Can't make This Up File....

                        Originally posted by aaron View Post
                        I imagine that the cyclist was extremely angry and was trying to attack the driver. He drove off in fear. The cyclist/attacker continued to yell and would not let go of the door, no matter what the driver said or did. Fearing for his life, the driver tried to make the man let go of his car. Unfortunately for him, the attacker would not.
                        That might actually be the case, if this story is true. Last I heard, though, they weren't saying much about the evidence for this, except that they were going to be examining security cameras that may have caught the scene. Even if this is the case, though, the evidence that has come out so far suggests that the cyclist may have been angry because the driver took off after hitting him. If that turns out to be the case, I don't see how he can avoid a conviction for leaving the scene of an accident, even if all the other charges are dropped. But stranger things have happened...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Can't make This Up File....

                          Originally posted by aaron View Post
                          I imagine that the cyclist was extremely angry and was trying to attack the driver. He drove off in fear. The cyclist/attacker continued to yell and would not let go of the door, no matter what the driver said or did. Fearing for his life, the driver tried to make the man let go of his car. Unfortunately for him, the attacker would not.

                          If you can buy a good lawyer in Canada like you can in the United States, the cyclist family will end up paying the driver for his messed up door and psychological trauma.

                          You must be a biker yourself since you have a very clear picture of typical car/bike justice, at least in the US. I know a guy who got arrested after a police cruiser ran over his bike while the guy was standing over it (reckless standing?).

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                            Re: Can't make This Up File....

                            Originally posted by hugh_lawson View Post
                            You must be a biker yourself since you have a very clear picture of typical car/bike justice, at least in the US. I know a guy who got arrested after a police cruiser ran over his bike while the guy was standing over it (reckless standing?).
                            Well ... what was he arrested for? If I stood over my bike and aimed an AK-47 at an approaching officer, I'd expected to get arrested as well, if I was still alive after he tried to run over me. Presumably the officer had (or concocted) some legal justification for the guy's arrest. What was it? Probably not as dramatic as my hypothetical, but still ...
                            Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                              Re: Can't make This Up File....

                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              workers said that the motorist repeatedly mounted the sidewalk and drove near lampposts in what seemed to be an attempt to brush off the man hanging onto the side.

                              witnesses said that the clinging man flew off of the car after striking a mailbox.

                              The charge against Mr. Bryant?

                              criminal negligence causing death

                              Cognitive Dissonance anyone...
                              1. "Witnesses said...". Witnesses make it sound like the chase scene from "The French Connection". The guy lost it, with tragic results. There is nothing in the record so far that indicates that how he behaved in this circumstance is typical behaviour for him or that what happened was pre-meditated or planned in any way. So let's see what comes out in the trial about exactly what happened. Okay?

                              2. What's the cognitive dissonance here? Under Canadian criminal law this is an extremely serious charge. If they had charged him with some sort of civil law offense I might be inclined to agree with some of the commentary about "favoured treatment'. What's the problem here that everyone seems to be picking up on that I don't see? He's being treated exactly as any other Canadian citizen [who does not have a previous civil or criminal record] would be treated. The charge is exactly what I would receive if I did the same thing with the same outcome [and I don't have diddly-squat political influence].


                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              And the cherry on the cake:

                              But it was as the province’s top law enforcement official that he (Mr. Bryant) produced the greatest controversy and acclaim of his 10-year political career.

                              Among his targets were street-racing motorists. In 2007 he gave the police the power to seize and destroy cars modified for racing even if no charges were lodged against their owners.

                              After describing such cars as being as dangerous as explosives, he said, “We will crush your car, we will crush the parts.”

                              Later that year the province passed a bill to deem any vehicle traveling more than 50 kilometers an hour, or 31 miles an hour, faster than the speed limit to be racing. The legislation, under which more than 10,000 charges have been brought, allows the police to immediately seize vehicles and suspend licenses.

                              He must be in a special road rage category all his own. Ya, you betcha.
                              Last edited by GRG55; September 03, 2009, 07:05 PM.

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