Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

[jpatter666]

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/node/47222

Several interesting articles on the future of oil and alternative energies. I'd be interested to hear what the experts (GRG?) might comment on some of these.

[metalman]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/node/47222

Several interesting articles on the future of oil and alternative energies. I'd be interested to hear what the experts (GRG?) might comment on some of these.

this one looks familiar...

The Coming Supply Crunch
How the recession is throttling much-needed investment.
By Fatih Birol

[MulaMan]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Well, seeing that I'm an expert on pretty much everything discused on iTullip and if you believe in historical models then Whaling is the one complete cycle of a natural resource that exactly predicts what will hapeen with oil prices.

The lesson to be learned is:

Whale Bludder prices rose and fell drastically with speculation in the stock market until it become an irrelavent resource and then we not longer cared about whale blubber prices...

...because it became irrelavent.

[metalman]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Well, seeing that I'm an expert on pretty much everything discused on iTullip and if you believe in historical models then Whaling is the one complete cycle of a natural resource that exactly predicts what will hapeen with oil prices.

The lesson to be learned is:

Whale Bludder prices rose and fell drastically with speculation in the stock market until it become an irrelavent resource and then we not longer cared about whale blubber prices...

...because it became irrelavent.

so... what will replace fossil fuels?

[Raz]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Well, seeing that I'm an expert on pretty much everything discused on iTullip and if you believe in historical models then Whaling is the one complete cycle of a natural resource that exactly predicts what will hapeen with oil prices.

The lesson to be learned is:

Whale Bludder prices rose and fell drastically with speculation in the stock market until it become an irrelavent resource and then we not longer cared about whale blubber prices...

...because it became irrelavent.

It didn't just "become irrelevant". It was replaced. Had there been no replacement it would have remained highly relevant.

You're very good at screaming for "change", accusing people you don't know of saying things they didn't say, insulting anyone who you think in advance might not agree with you, as well as insulting someone (me) for having a wife who optioned surgery for breast cancer.

And I've yet to read anything you posted concerning the present economic questions that are leading to the demise of our nation, except to infer or propose higher taxes on everyone except Obama voters, and the total destruction of industries that don't meet your qualifications as necessary to exist. You only seem to foam and rant at anyone who questions the need for the "government" to take over entire industries.

Sooooo... smart guy, why don't you offer a solution to some of the problems you rant about?
(Other than the standard leftist dribble of "Soviet-Lite".)

[Starving Steve]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Try to live without oil, without natural gas, and without electricity from atomic power??????????

I get the message loud and clear from the oil market, right now. Don't you? We are cementing a base in the oil market in the $70 to $80 range. Then we go higher this fall or sometime next year. Then we go higher and higher, and hopefully slowly and painfully higher. (I'm optimistic.)

Or do you think windmills and solar panels are going to save the planet; that is to say, do you perceive oil and gas and atomic power to be on their way out and thus relics from the past? That is what the radical environmentalists would have you believe.

And those electric cars powered by windmills and solar panels that the pot-heads would have you believe in?????????? Where are they?????????

Sure we could go back to residing in caves or in shacks, lit by candle-light. We could ride bicycles or donkeys to work. This type of low energy life-style would satisfy many radical environmentalists of our time.

And where are those ships loaded with oil and just waiting to deliver oil to the markets????????? Where is that flood of cheap oil just waiting to drown the oil markets????

And I do re-call that talk of special high-conductivity metals, the rare-Earth metals, that would make wind and solar viable. Where are they????????????????? Perhaps they exist on some unknown astroid between Mars and Jupiter?????

As usual, my pants are wet laughing......"It seems like I've heard this song before.... It's from an old familiar score. I know those words and that melody."

[metalman]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Try to live without oil, without natural gas, and without electricity from atomic power??????????

I get the message loud and clear from the oil market, right now. Don't you? We are cementing a base in the oil market in the $70 to $80 range. Then we go higher this fall or sometime next year. Then we go higher and higher, and hopefully slowly and painfully higher. (I'm optimistic.)

Or do you think windmills and solar panels are going to save the planet; that is to say, oil and gas and atomic power are on their way out and thus relics from the past. That is what the radical environmentalists would have you believe.

And those electric cars powered by windmills and solar panels that the pot-heads would have you believe in?????????? Where are they?????????

Sure we could go back to residing in caves or in shacks, lit by candle-light. We could ride bicycles or donkeys to work. This type of low energy life-style would satisfy many radical environmentalists of our time.

And where are those ships loaded with oil and just waiting to deliver oil to the markets????????? Where is that flood of cheap oil just waiting to drown the oil markets????

And I do re-call that talk of special high-conductivity metals, the rare-Earth metals, that would make wind and solar viable. Where are they????????????????? Perhaps they exist on some unknown astroid between Mars and Jupiter?????

As usual, my pants are wet laughing......"It seems like I've heard this song before.... It's from an old familiar score. I know those words and that melody."

or



hmmmmmm?????

[goadam1]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

Well, seeing that I'm an expert on pretty much everything discused on iTullip and if you believe in historical models then Whaling is the one complete cycle of a natural resource that exactly predicts what will hapeen with oil prices.

The lesson to be learned is:

Whale Bludder prices rose and fell drastically with speculation in the stock market until it become an irrelavent resource and then we not longer cared about whale blubber prices...

...because it became irrelavent.

what is whale "bludder"? Anyway, no one has written about oil the way Melville did about blubber:

Now as the blubber envelopes the whale precisely as the rind does an orange, so is it stripped off from the body precisely as an orange is sometimes stripped by spiralizing it. For the strain constantly kept up by the windlass continually keeps the whale rolling over and over in the water, and as the blubber in one strip uniformly peels off along the line called the “scarf,” simultaneously cut by the spades of Starbuck and Stubb, the mates; and just as fast as it is thus peeled off, and indeed by that very act itself, it is all the time being hoisted higher and higher aloft till its upper end grazes the main-top; the men at the windlass then cease heaving, and for a moment or two the prodigious blood-dripping mass sways to and fro as if let down from the sky, and every one present must take good heed to dodge it when it swings, else it may box his ears and pitch him headlong overboard.

[metalman]

Re: Oil, the long goodbye -- FP link

what is whale "bludder"? Anyway, no one has written about oil the way Melville did about blubber:

Now as the blubber envelopes the whale precisely as the rind does an orange, so is it stripped off from the body precisely as an orange is sometimes stripped by spiralizing it. For the strain constantly kept up by the windlass continually keeps the whale rolling over and over in the water, and as the blubber in one strip uniformly peels off along the line called the “scarf,” simultaneously cut by the spades of Starbuck and Stubb, the mates; and just as fast as it is thus peeled off, and indeed by that very act itself, it is all the time being hoisted higher and higher aloft till its upper end grazes the main-top; the men at the windlass then cease heaving, and for a moment or two the prodigious blood-dripping mass sways to and fro as if let down from the sky, and every one present must take good heed to dodge it when it swings, else it may box his ears and pitch him headlong overboard.

the art of describing a physical act has been lost to video. the same event in the youtube era...

> video of blubber stripped off of a whale <

voiceover... here the men strip the blubber off the whale...

comment 1... uh, f&cking gross.

comment 2... sushi yum!

comment 3... u eat me

etc