You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

[Mega]

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...s-America.html

Mike

[LargoWinch]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...s-America.html

Mike

Mega, congrats! you achieved doomer level 1.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

Mega, congrats! you achieved doomer level 1.

Does the paint on that VAULT-TEC figure have lead in it?

[LargoWinch]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

Does the paint on that VAULT-TEC figure have lead in it?

Of course TPC! Something has to done about all that upcoming radiathion?

[KangarooDan]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

Interesting question, lots of studies on this subject (have a quick wander through"pubmed" for relevant trials). There's a fair bit of evidence that getting influenza increases your risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome far more than having the vaccine does. In any case you're looking at an effect with an incidence generally well under 1 per million so I wouldn't get too stressed.

I think the consensus so far in Downunder is that nearly all the young people who got the swine flu have had a (relatively) mild illness, ie. you will feel like you're dying but the chances are tiny. Obviously there have been exceptions and I know of a few young people who have been spectacularly unwell in ICU, but generally the serious cases had significant premorbid risk factors. If you know anyone with significant medical illnesses or advanced age, they're probably better off with the vaccine. Any treatment that works has potential adverse effects. No adverse effects=doesn't work, eg. homeopathy. This particular effect, despite being really nasty, is probably not cause for panic.

Good luck with your decision making anyway!

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

There's a fair bit of evidence that getting influenza increases your risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome far more than having the vaccine does.

Could you provide some references to this evidence? Thanks.

[D-Mack]

Re: You know that Flu shot they want you to take.....

Mega, congrats! you achieved doomer level 1.

what happened to Gulf War illness?

The Department of Defense published a study in 2009 which found no relationship between squalene antibodies and symptoms. The researchers concluded "We found no association between squalene antibody status and chronic multisymptom illness. The etiology of Gulf War syndrome remains unknown, but should not include squalene antibody status."[22]
Research into the vaccine used after 1997 suggests that specific vaccine lots used in immunization during the Anthrax Vaccine Immunization Program program initiated in 1997 likely contain squalene because " the incidence of [anti-squalene antibodies] in personnel in the blinded study receiving these lots was 47% (8/17) compared to an incidence of 0% (0/8; P < 0.025) of the AVIP participants receiving other lots of vaccine."[23]
Even after the war, troops that had never been deployed overseas, after receiving the anthrax vaccine, developed symptoms similar to those of Persian Gulf War Syndrome. The Pentagon failed to report to Congress 20,000 cases where soldiers were hospitalized after receiving the vaccine between 1998 and 2000.[24]
Despite repeated assurances that the vaccine was safe and necessary, a U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe it was harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004.[25] The ban was lifted in February 2008 after the FDA re-examined and approved the drug again. Anthrax vaccine is the only substance suspected in Persian Gulf War syndrome to which forced exposure has since been banned to protect troops from it.[26]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Wa...nthrax_vaccine