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  • JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

    Now here's something that's begging for the Anti-spin treatment. :p

    Of course that would just be redundant reading for iTulipers, now wouldn't it...;)

    [there's indications that "pent up demand" is about to enter the financial journalism vernacular as phrase of the month]
    No New Normal JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

    Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be heading for a robust recovery.

    The worst recession since the 1930s has created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase & Co., former Federal Reserve Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc.

    “Whenever we have plunged off a cliff and fallen into a deep hole in the past, for a while the economy has a tendency to bounce back very quickly,” said Glassman, a senior economist at JPMorgan in New York.

    Glassman and his colleagues this month said forecasts of 3 percent to 4 percent growth in coming quarters may be too low given “pent-up” consumer demand...

    ...“The thing I object to most about the New Normal idea is that we are stuck and have to accept higher unemployment --if you look at the Fed, they are doing everything they can to fight it,” said Glassman, who formerly worked as a Fed economist in Washington...

    ...Meyer, who served as a central bank governor from 1996 until 2002, said he and his colleagues “don’t find any evidence” that the unemployment rate consistent with stable inflation is now higher...

    ...“The big driver of that is home prices,” said Meyer, referring to his recovery forecast. “If home prices stabilize, that is a tremendous boost to housing that dominates every other variable in our equation. There is a lot of pent-up demand in that particular area.”...

    ...“Consumers are holding off on practically all of their discretionary purchases,” said Stanley, who sees the expansion picking up from 2.9 percent next year to 4.4 percent in 2011 and “about” 3.5 percent in 2012. “There is a lot of pent-up demand.”...

    ...Fed policy makers in their latest projections submitted in June anticipated an expansion of 2.1 percent to 3.3 percent from this year’s fourth quarter to the same period next year and 3.8 percent to 4.6 percent in 2011...

    ...Neal Soss, chief economist at Credit Suisse Group AG in New York, played down concern that the economy may suffer a “double dip” recession.

    “Historically these double dips are routinely forecast and actually very rarely come to pass,”...



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    Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

    Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
    Now here's something that's begging for the Anti-spin treatment. :p

    Of course that would just be redundant reading for iTulipers, now wouldn't it...;)

    [there's indications that "pent up demand" is about to enter the financial journalism vernacular as phrase of the month]
    It's Friday. Anybody want to wager on how many banks get closed by the FDIC later today?

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    • #3
      Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

      I think they raise an interesting dilemma here. Should debt to gdp go to even higher levels, or have there already been a peak. I think that's what decide if there will be a new normal or not.

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        Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

        Well, I see in today's headlines that Colonial Bank is on the verge of being shut down.

        As for anti spin of the JP Morgan news there is this:

        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ay34zB6jhhGQ

        U.S. Stocks Are ‘Dramatically Overpriced,’ Federated’s Tice Says
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        By Michael P. Regan

        Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets.

        “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television.

        Tice, who predicts that the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher.

        Last Updated: August 14, 2009 08:00 EDT
        Greg

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        • #5
          Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

          I have don't have much trust in Tice, I guess I just don't like him. I think it's very interesting now, in the sense that eighter it have to fall back down, or if it don't the economy must start to climb on a V shaped recovery, something that lately have become something of a contrarian view. I'd say there is a possibillity of a large move, in eighter direction as the market is now.

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            Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

            Someone should tell JPM that they are holding the "V" upside down

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              Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

              Hum, Aren't these the guys who had to take a $25 billion dollar loan from the banker of last resort to stay in business last fall? (I know, they paid it back.) I just got a hot tip on a horse at the track today and my uncle Louie wants $500 bucks. Stories sound the same?

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              • #8
                Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                It does..The market have been very heavy lately, and have held up surprisingly well. Quite a drift down today again.

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                • #9
                  Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                  ...“The thing I object to most about the New Normal idea is that we are stuck and have to accept higher unemployment --if you look at the Fed, they are doing everything they can to fight it,” said Glassman, who formerly worked as a Fed economist in Washington...

                  ...Meyer, who served as a central bank governor from 1996 until 2002, said he and his colleagues “don’t find any evidence” that the unemployment rate consistent with stable inflation is now higher...

                  ...“The big driver of that is home prices,” said Meyer, referring to his recovery forecast. “If home prices stabilize, that is a tremendous boost to housing that dominates every other variable in our equation. There is a lot of pent-up demand in that particular area.”...

                  ...“Consumers are holding off on practically all of their discretionary purchases,” said Stanley, who sees the expansion picking up from 2.9 percent next year to 4.4 percent in 2011 and “about” 3.5 percent in 2012. “There is a lot of pent-up demand.”...
                  I woudl really like to see what analysis is done to reach those conclusions... I thought there is any...

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                  • #10
                    Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                    I have this american radiostations I listen through to winamp, sometimes that disturbing guy Alex Jones is on the air to. However. To the point. There is so much advertisement for companies that advertize for credit card debt restructuring, that it's almost insane. Improve your credit rating, restore it, blah, and all that crap, quite a boom in that business it seems.

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                    • #11
                      Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                      It's Friday. Anybody want to wager on how many banks get closed by the FDIC later today?
                      Is Georgia still up and running? If it is, then I'll add theirs to my state of Florida and put the over/under at 4, same number for my hometown Browns unfortunately.

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                      • #12
                        Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                        Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
                        Well, I see in today's headlines that Colonial Bank is on the verge of being shut down.

                        As for anti spin of the JP Morgan news there is this:

                        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ay34zB6jhhGQ

                        U.S. Stocks Are ‘Dramatically Overpriced,’ Federated’s Tice Says
                        Share | Email | Print | A A A

                        By Michael P. Regan

                        Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David Tice, Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets.

                        “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television.

                        Tice, who predicts that the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index will eventually slump to 400, said he would add to short positions if the market goes much higher.

                        Last Updated: August 14, 2009 08:00 EDT
                        More Bloomberg anti-spin:

                        http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aTTT9jivRIWE

                        "More than 150 publicly traded U.S. lenders own nonperforming loans that equal 5 percent or more of their holdings, a level that former regulators say can wipe out a bank’s equity and threaten its survival."

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                          Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                          Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
                          Hum, Aren't these the guys who had to take a $25 billion dollar loan from the banker of last resort to stay in business last fall? (I know, they paid it back.) I just got a hot tip on a horse at the track today and my uncle Louie wants $500 bucks. Stories sound the same?
                          Is that your Uncle Louie who works for Colonial or the one who works for JP Morgan? I get them mixed up. Both are great fun at the rail

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                          • #14
                            Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                            Originally posted by ax View Post
                            More Bloomberg anti-spin:

                            http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aTTT9jivRIWE

                            "More than 150 publicly traded U.S. lenders own nonperforming loans that equal 5 percent or more of their holdings, a level that former regulators say can wipe out a bank’s equity and threaten its survival."
                            I wonder what is the definition of a "former regulator"? Is that someone who is still employed and paid by the government entity that used to regulate, but doesn't any more [and hasn't in years]? :rolleyes:

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                            • #15
                              Re: JPMorgan Sees V-Shaped Recovery on Robust Growth

                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              Is that your Uncle Louie who works for Colonial or the one who works for JP Morgan? I get them mixed up. Both are great fun at the rail
                              The way to tell them apart is that the one who works for JPM wants to bet $500 million bucks...

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