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    Sorry for the Mega.

    Keeping Their Eggs in Their Backyard Nests

    Chang W. Lee/The New York Times
    Declan Walsh is raising broiler hens in Brooklyn this year and estimates that each will cost him $8 over its lifetime.






    By WILLIAM NEUMAN
    Published: August 3, 2009
    As Americans struggle through a dismal recession, many are trying to safeguard themselves from what they fear will be even worse times ahead. They eat out less often. They take vacations closer to home. They put off buying new cars.
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    Chang W. Lee/The New York Times
    Declan Walsh spent about $300 to build a coop and a fenced-in chicken run to raise broiler hens.




    And some raise chickens. Lloyd Romriell, a married father of four in Annis, Idaho, recently received seven grown chickens and a coop from a relative. The hens lay a total of about two dozen eggs a week.
    “It’s because times are tough. You never know what’s going to happen,” Mr. Romriell said. Although he manages a feed store, he had not kept chickens since he was a child. “If you lose your job tomorrow, you’ve still got food.”
    As a backyard chicken trend sweeps the country, hatcheries that supply baby chicks say they can barely keep up with demand. Do-it-yourself coops have popped up in places as disparate as Brooklyn, suburban Chicago and the rural West.
    In some cities, the chicken craze has met with resistance, as neighbors demand that local officials enforce no-poultry laws. In others, including Fort Collins, Colo., enthusiasts have worked to change laws to allow small flocks (without noisy roosters).
    For some, especially in cities, where raising chickens has become an emblem of extreme foodie street cred, the interest is spurred by a preference for organic and locally grown foods. It may also stem in part from fear, after several prominent recalls, that the food in the supermarket is no longer safe.
    But for many others, a deep current of economic distress underlies the chicken boomlet, as people seek ways to fend for themselves in tough times. Even if spreadsheets can demonstrate that raising chickens at home is not cost-effective, it may instill an invaluable sense of self-reliance.
    “I’m not into that organic stuff,” Mr. Romriell said. “I think people in bigger cities want to see where their food comes from, whereas us out here in the West and in small towns, we know the concept of losing jobs and want to be able to be self-sustained. That’s why I do it.”
    Commercial hatcheries, which typically ship baby chicks around the country by airmail, say they are having one of their best years, on top of exceptionally strong sales last year. Most of the birds go to farm supply stores, but many hatcheries are increasingly making small shipments directly to people who want just a few birds for a backyard flock. The postal service said that in the first six months of this year, it shipped 1.2 million pounds of packages containing chicks (mostly chickens but also baby ducks and turkeys), a 7 percent increase from the comparable period last year. That volume equals millions of birds, as the average chick weighs slightly more than an ounce.
    Marie Reed, a sales representative for Ideal Poultry, a large Texas hatchery, said that managers of rural feed stores that sell the company’s birds told her they had seen a spike this year in demand for baby chicks, along with an upturn in sales of garden seeds — and ammunition.
    “People are buying up guns and chickens and seed,” Ms. Reed said. “That tells me people are wanting to depend on themselves more.”
    Yet, even as many people see raising chickens as a hedge against hard times — and a way to get tastier eggs and meat — they often acknowledge that it is not really a way to save money on food.
    “You can buy eggs in the grocery store cheaper than you can raise them,” said David D. Frame, a poultry specialist who works with the Utah State University Extension. “You’re not saving money by doing it.”
    He said that feed represented 75 percent of the cost of raising a bird. Commercial poultry operations that buy huge amounts of feed at wholesale have much lower costs per bird than the backyard chicken enthusiast can typically achieve.
    Jasmin Middlebos, 36, a librarian who lives with her husband, a sheriff’s deputy, and their three children in a rural area outside Spokane, Wash., began raising chickens last year. She now has 26 birds, which produce up to two dozen eggs a day. (In hot weather, production can drop by half, and in winter it can stop altogether.) In September, she began selling some of the eggs — she gets $2 to $3 a dozen — and started keeping track of her income and expenses.
    Since then, Ms. Middlebos said, she has taken in $457 from egg sales and spent $428, mostly on feed. That left $29 in the Mason jar where she keeps her earnings, to spend the next time she buys feed.

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    Originally posted by dummass View Post
    “You can buy eggs in the grocery store cheaper than you can raise them,” said David D. Frame, a poultry specialist who works with the Utah State University Extension. “You’re not saving money by doing it.”
    He said that feed represented 75 percent of the cost of raising a bird. Commercial poultry operations that buy huge amounts of feed at wholesale have much lower costs per bird than the backyard chicken enthusiast can typically achieve.
    Beware of "specialists" . . . especially if they have a "commercial" mindset.

    If chickens are given enough grassy areas to roam, you don't have to give them any feed. So, after your cost of building a coop and buying a rooster and some hens, everything else is "gravy". If you get the right kind of chickens, they will reproduce, so you will have an endless supply of chickens and eggs . . . for free.

    If you want to optimize egg production, you can buy them feed, or grow it yourself, but it's not necessary unless you are raising them in a small area.

    We have 12 hens and a rooster. We average about 8 eggs a day -- that's almost 5 dozen per week (we sell the extra at a local store). At $2 a dozen that's about $9.33 per week of eggs. I buy one bag of feed every 2 weeks for $8, and let the chickens have as much as they want. Right there I'm making a profit of $10.66 a week, plus we'll butcher the hens when they become less efficient at egg laying after about 2 years.
    raja
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      I live near the self-proclaimed "Chicken capital of the world".
      Obviously around here you can buy them cheaper than you could raise them. I think my wife pays about $3 for a whole chicken. And you don't have to catch it, kill it, or clean it.

      You know you are in trouble when you see a statue of a man holding a chicken at the entrance to the county government building.

      http://www.beyondthepalace.com/georg...giachicken.htm

      Ah, the smell of the chicken processing plant in the morning, smells like....

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        Originally posted by raja View Post
        Beware of "specialists" . . . especially if they have a "commercial" mindset.

        If chickens are given enough grassy areas to roam, you don't have to give them any feed. So, after your cost of building a coop and buying a rooster and some hens, everything else is "gravy". If you get the right kind of chickens, they will reproduce, so you will have an endless supply of chickens and eggs . . . for free.

        If you want to optimize egg production, you can buy them feed, or grow it yourself, but it's not necessary unless you are raising them in a small area.

        We have 12 hens and a rooster. We average about 8 eggs a day -- that's almost 5 dozen per week (we sell the extra at a local store). At $2 a dozen that's about $9.33 per week of eggs. I buy one bag of feed every 2 weeks for $8, and let the chickens have as much as they want. Right there I'm making a profit of $10.66 a week, plus we'll butcher the hens when they become less efficient at egg laying after about 2 years.
        You are right Raja, in addition, the birds are a lot healthier living "free range," eating protein rich bugs and getting daily exercise. Sedentary corn fed chickens are not healthy.

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          Originally posted by flintlock View Post
          I live near the self-proclaimed "Chicken capital of the world".
          Obviously around here you can buy them cheaper than you could raise them. I think my wife pays about $3 for a whole chicken. And you don't have to catch it, kill it, or clean it.

          You know you are in trouble when you see a statue of a man holding a chicken at the entrance to the county government building.

          http://www.beyondthepalace.com/georg...giachicken.htm

          Ah, the smell of the chicken processing plant in the morning, smells like....
          $3 for a chicken! That's about half the price you pay in the UK!

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            Originally posted by hayekvindicated View Post
            $3 for a chicken! That's about half the price you pay in the UK!
            My wife said 99 cents pound on sale. What's a chicken weigh? The grocery store is minutes from the Tyson plant mind you. Low transportation costs.

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              Raise worms for chickens by vermiculture? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermiculture

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                http://www.NowAndTheFuture.com

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                  Originally posted by bart View Post
                  You need to file a patent.
                  Ed.

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                    Originally posted by FRED View Post
                    How do you know I haven't?
                    ...evil laugh


                    ... and franchised it too...
                    Mind control (The Tinfoil Hat Song)

                    Buy one



                    And for those who are like so 2008 and don't know about its rad, kewl, trendiness:
                    Wikipedia entry
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                      Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                      My wife said 99 cents pound on sale. What's a chicken weigh? The grocery store is minutes from the Tyson plant mind you. Low transportation costs.
                      A Tyson chicken? Chicken on steroids... well over five pounds. One of Raja's free-range? 4 pounds or so... depending on the local bug count.

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                        Originally posted by dummass View Post
                        A Tyson chicken? Chicken on steroids... well over five pounds. One of Raja's free-range? 4 pounds or so... depending on the local bug count.
                        The locals are fond of the Cornish Cross breed . . . .
                        These chickens will put on lots of weight fast . . . and if you continue to make feed available, they will continue to eat until they can't walk, then die.
                        Yum :eek:

                        Being Mr. Natural, I won't touch these mutant chickens with a 10-foot chicken hook, but I suspect they are wildly popular on the commercial market.

                        But I digress . . . let's get back to the Naked Chicks.
                        (I imagine this thread has greatly boosted iTulip's Google hits.)
                        raja
                        Boycott Big Banks • Vote Out Incumbents

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                          Woah caramba! Weirdest news thread I have read in a long time on iTulip.

                          Could it be possible that macro-economists, pro traders [thats you bart] and fellow iTulipers alike do need a break once in a while in the mist of the Modern Depression while bracing for POOM? ;)

                          One thing for sure; given the circumstances, there is nothing wrong against humor "therapy":


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                          Last edited by LargoWinch; August 10, 2009, 10:46 PM.

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