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  • #91
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    Also -if you read Thus Spake Zarathustra -you will find -that what he meant by Christianity -was the Institutionalization and morphing of Christian values to a level that was far from the original intent of Christianity.

    In my view -the tale of the prophet who spoke directly to the masses -is but an homage to Christ.

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    • #92
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      You mean the Anti-Christ-read the whole wikipedia entry -you will see that perhaps -he wasn't as much of an atheist/German or Nihilist as people think.

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      • #93
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        Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
        You mean the Anti-Christ-read the whole wikipedia entry -you will see that perhaps -he wasn't as much of an atheist/German or Nihilist as people think.
        I've read his works. I've read his bios. I will grant you that his most vociferous criticisms were reserved for institutional Christianity. But a Christian he was not.

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        • #94
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          Originally posted by Munger View Post
          I've read his works. I've read his bios. I will grant you that his most vociferous criticisms were reserved for institutional Christianity. But a Christian he was not.
          Fine- I am not going to change your mind -only you can do that. Again -its basically the point of epistemology -what do we know -are we sure we 'know' - that sort of thing.

          Nietzsche was quoted and I responded. I am no Nietzsche expert- he, Kant, Schopenhauer, Godel, Hobbes, Voltaire etc were some philosophers I have a fondness for- that's all- and ultimately it was not done in a academic settin g- but for myself.

          So I claim no special insight -rather- just that in my view -thats how I took his work. You may be right -and I could be completely wrong.

          No biggie -I really enjoyed those days holed up with books and to me -that was the most important part of it.

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          • #95
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            Originally posted by Munger View Post
            I've read his works. I've read his bios. I will grant you that his most vociferous criticisms were reserved for institutional Christianity. But a Christian he was not.
            Munger is correct.

            Nietzsche was absolutely, assuredly, most definitely NOT a Christian.
            Not an orthodox Christian even in a very loose sense of the term.

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            • #96
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              Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
              If I am not incorrect -
              famous last words...

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              • #97
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                Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
                Any idiot can break an egg. That does not mean the Omelet tastes great.
                - LargoWinch
                Oh I'm using that one as soon as the occasion allows.:cool:

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                • #98
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                  Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
                  the Institutionalization and morphing of Christian values to a level that was far from the original intent of Christianity.

                  .

                  All thing proceed that way. Christianity is no different. This thread is a good example.

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                  • #99
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                    Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
                    He has more consistency and integridy in his fingers than I have in my whole body.
                    Yes, indeed. He has more than I ever hope to have.

                    Ron Paul is a Paleoconservative with somewhat of a Libertarian bent.
                    He knows that our nation was founded to be a republic - not a 'friggin empire!

                    If we don't get a younger version of him to head up a Third Party we are doomed.

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                      Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
                      Oh I'm using that one as soon as the occasion allows.:cool:
                      its Copyrighted

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                        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                        If religion, especially religious fundamentalism, has done any good for mankind, what is it?
                        Princeton was founded by Christians. Slavery in the western world was abolished by Christians.
                        Think of "St. Jude Medical Center" or "Methodist Medical Center" or "St. Dominic Hospital".

                        Not many hospitals are founded by atheists - no "Voltaire Medical Centers" that I'm aware of.
                        Last edited by Raz; June 24, 2009, 10:50 AM. Reason: spelling

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                          Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
                          its Copyrighted

                          See you in court.:p

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                            Originally posted by iyamwutiam View Post
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                            You sure love the dash key!
                            Every interest bearing loan is mathematically impossible to pay back.

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                              Brzezinski Talks Iran on CNN - Change of Regime Requires "Intelligent Manipulation"



                              P.C. Roberts & W. Madsen on Russia Today

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                                Originally posted by Raz View Post
                                Princeton was founded by Christians. Slavery in the western world was abolished by Christians.
                                Think of "St. Jude Medical Center" or "Methodist Medical Center" or "St. Dominic Hospital".

                                Not many hospitals are founded by atheists - no "Voltaire Medical Centers" that I'm aware of.
                                George Bush's administration elected solidly by the Christian-right from the South and the Midwaste had no moral problem whatsoever leaving fifty million people in America without access to healthcare. That whole bunch of religious Republicans from the hinterland had no moral problem whatsoever in mocking and ignoring the needs of fifty million people in America.... I will never forget that fact of life during the eight years of George Bush, nor should you.

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