Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

[Sapiens]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...547175118.html

Mousavi's letter to Iranians

Fellow countrymen,

I am receiving news about objections to the declared results of the latest elections, from all over the country. I am certain that these reactions are not for my personal sake, but it's due to concern about a new way of political life that is being forced on our country.

The actions that we have witnessed in these few days has been unprecedented in the Islamic Republic.

If the people are following these present developments with a sense of worry, it's because of their deep worry for the great achievements of their revolution being in danger.

Those who with the assistance of many violations have declared unbelievable results for the presidential elections, are now trying to establish those results and start a new period of our country's history.

I have repeatedly, during the course of these elections, have spoken of dangers of escaping from the law and have emphasised that this method might result in tyranny and dictatorship, and today our nation is standing at a point that finds this prospect tangable.

We, as those who are loyal to the Islamic Republic and its constitutional laws, consider the Holy Jurisdiction one of the fundamentals of this regime and follow the political movements within legal frameworks.

I hope the progress of the new events would show the mistake in this impression and, at the same time, we warn that in this country no one who likes the Islamic Republic would accept this method, and this is what demands the bloods of hundreds of thousands of our martyrs to be responsible against it.

Dear people, today, in a letter that I presented to The Guardian Council, I have asked for the annulment of the results of the latest elections and I know this to be the only resolution for gaining the public confidence and the support of the people for the government.

My repeated suggestion as your servant is that you continue your civil and legal opposition all around the country, in a calm manner and observing anti-conflict fundaments.

We have asked the responsible people to issue a permit for a mass rally in all the cities in Iran so that the people will have an opportunity to show their opposition towards the results of these elections and the way it was conducted.

The authorities agreement could be the best resolution for restraining the present tensions.

Let's not abandon the green colour which is a symbol of spirituality, freedom and religious mentality and moderateness and the Allah O Akbar slogan that tells us of revolutionary roots.

This is the colour and slogan that is still unifying our nation and will be the best measure to connect our hearts and needs.

Sadly, an extensive effort has is being used to to cut off our means of communication with each other, and it is not noticed that that the blocking of these lines would change the nature of the organised and goal-driven reactions to, God-forbidding, change into blind actions.

I am certain that your creativity would result in new and effective ways of communication so that we could use our actions in a beneficial way for the country and the revolution.

As someone who likes the police, I recommend them avoid harsh reactions towards people's self-motivated actions and not let the people's trust to this worthy organ be damaged.

These people have come to the scene to to demand both their, and your, rights and they are your brothers and sisters. The power of the police and military forces of our country has always lied in their unity with the people and it will be the same in the future.

[Verrocchio]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Iran is a prime candidate for an 'orange revolution' style political change.

Speaking with people I know who are either from or recently spent significant time in Georgia and the Ukraine, I was struck by how many of the primary supporters of these respective 'revolutions' were in the 16 to 22 age range at the time of the change.

Obviously at this age many people are young, naive, and energetic - prime fodder for manipulation.

Iran's demographic would seem to fit this category as well.

Manipulated? Perhaps man is manipulated at all ages of life. In the period of youth, what is taken as the product of manipulation may instead simply be the deep conviction that comes from thinking for oneself.

[iyamwutiam]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PCaN...&feature=email

perhaps a another view point -

[metalman]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PCaN...&feature=email

perhaps a another view point -

are you iranian?

frankly, the film looks like the kind of personality cult propaganda that dictatorial gov'ts make... as such it reinforces the opposition's claim that the current administration is dictatorial.

[jtabeb]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Funny thing, what the Iranian Gov has done in the political sphere to it's people is the SAME thing that OUR gov has done in the Economic Sphere to it's people.

Hmm, wonder when we get some rioting in the streets?

[metalman]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Funny thing, what the Iranian Gov has done in the political sphere to it's people is the SAME thing that OUR gov has done in the Economic Sphere to it's people.

Hmm, wonder when we get some rioting in the streets?

i don't think so. (27,516,146 views)

[iyamwutiam]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

are you iranian?

frankly, the film looks like the kind of personality cult propaganda that dictatorial gov'ts make... as such it reinforces the opposition's claim that the current administration is dictatorial.

So your inference is -
1. I must be Iranian -because ?
a. There is contrary evidence -which oh my -must be so unusual and therefore hostile and false -given that the vast amount of excreta passed of as truth in the America/Europe -like say -what this site basically is focused on and exposed in finance- acknowledging if not confronting the US government is a pathological liar.
b. What the f**K right is any of US/Europe have to talk about another countries electoral process -given 2000/2004 and the entire subversion of the concept of justice (due to the excuse of terrorism/national security).
The hypocrisy embedded in this context is more pungent than being sprayed by a skunk- aminute ago.
3. Answering the question -No I am not Iranian

[iyamwutiam]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Funny thing, what the Iranian Gov has done in the political sphere to it's people is the SAME thing that OUR gov has done in the Economic Sphere to it's people.

Hmm, wonder when we get some rioting in the streets?

We did -a lot of it -and it was all over the world too.

Millions rioted AGINST the US when they invaded Iraq -how soon we forgwet. Tens of thousands rioted against George Bush -remeber the GOP convention!

Get over yourselves -
for real
and the world will be a better place

[metalman]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

So your inference is -
1. I must be Iranian -because ?

a. There is contrary evidence -which oh my -must be so unusual and therefore hostile and false -given that the vast amount of excreta passed of as truth in the America/Europe -like say -what this site basically is focused on and exposed in finance- acknowledging if not confronting the US government is a pathological liar.

my brain has been scrubbed clean on iran, that's for certain. i know nothing, and believe nothing i watch/read in the usa media. that said, i know a propaganda flick when i see one.

b. What the f**K right is any of US/Europe have to talk about another countries electoral process -given 2000/2004 and the entire subversion of the concept of justice (due to the excuse of terrorism/national security).
The hypocrisy embedded in this context is more pungent than being sprayed by a skunk- aminute ago.

no riots here over our fraudulent election. no shutting down of the telephones out of washington, etc.

3. Answering the question -No I am not Iranian

sorry, should not have mixed the question with my response. was only curious. welcome, either way.

[blazespinnaker]

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Well, give Iran some credit, they've come a long way.

The fact is, if Ahmadinejad (mouthful) lost, there would be massive anarchy.

Think Iraq - capturing and killing Saddam was not an improvement. Countless lives were lost and a lot of innocent people got caught int he crossfire .. but nobody cares, because they are Free.

Well, whatever.

There are much wiser and better ways to become free than going around massively killing people.

[jtabeb]

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i don't think so. (27,516,146 views)

Your voice was very shrill in this sir.
Testes not dropped yet?

I'm sorry if you disagree with my assertion that the US gov. has lied to it's citizenry and has ACTIVELY encouraged government sponsored fraud, abuse and chicanery in the financial sphere. I was wrong, you are right, the government has not served the privlaged few but also US who serve the prevlaged few (you know, cleaning up toilets and such).

So thank you for helping me see the error of my ways. I now know that my government loves me, and I LOVE them for it!

"How many fingers do you see now, winston?" Err. Metal?

Hint: it's not the fingers that I'm holding up, it's the fingers I'm NOT holding up and the fact you truly believe I'm holding it, err, I mean them, up, that shows the real power of control over people.

[metalman]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Your voice was very shrill in this sir.
Testes not dropped yet?

I'm sorry if you disagree with my assertion that the US gov. has lied to it's citizenry and has ACTIVELY encouraged government sponsored fraud, abuse and chicanery in the financial sphere. I was wrong, you are right, the government has not served the privlaged few but also US who serve the prevlaged few (you know, cleaning up toilets and such).

So thank you for helping me see the error of my ways. I now know that my government loves me, and I LOVE them for it!

"How many fingers do you see now, winston?" Err. Metal?

Hint: it's not the fingers that I'm holding up, it's the fingers I'm NOT holding up and the fact you truly believe I'm holding it, err, I mean them, up, that shows the real power of control over people.

my point... i'm getting too cryptic i guess...

you're talking about protests in the usa.

this kid's stupid video gets 27,516,146 views

this video that reveals the kid's future gets 12k... and you can bet that other than the 6k that came from itulip and goldismoney.com the rest are from argentina or outside the usa.



no demonstrations.

nothing.

the people are numb.

[jtabeb]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

my point... i'm getting too cryptic i guess...

you're talking about protests in the usa.

this kid's stupid video gets 27,516,146 views

this video that reveals the kid's future gets 12k... and you can bet that other than the 6k that came from itulip and goldismoney.com the rest are from argentina or outside the usa.



no demonstrations.

nothing.

the people are numb.

Nah, they are a kettle pot that is just waiting to whistle as it comes to a boil.

Your point is taken, but when you hear folks round the water cooler saying that "we should cut the balls of the bankers off, they can have them back when we get our money back(taxpayers that is)", well you know stuff ain't exactly "normal".

My 2C

[Sharky]

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

no demonstrations.

nothing.

the people are numb.

I don't think they're numb. I think they're terrified, and are doing their best to hide it.

How else can you explain skyrocketing gun sales, with many stores now sold out of ammo?

[goadam1]

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i don't think so. (27,516,146 views)

We are doomed.