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    is at an 18 year record low.

    The spread between Natural Gas and Crude Oil is now at an 18 year record low.

    Nat gas has fallen from $13 to $3 while Crude Oil soared to $70.

    Either crude is incredibly frothy, or natural gas represents an outstanding bargain.

    A few years or so ago I published a fairly comprehensive study of the seasonality of natural gas, and some relative relationships with demand and supply. I will look for it, and see if I can update it. Since I no longer trade the futures I have not looked at this in some time. But I do remember the spreads and saw this one grown shockingly wide.

    My first thought is that oil has been driven higher by monetary inflation and speculation, which are in some ways the same thing. Hot money craves beta and drives the prices of real assets to extremes.

    Keep in mind that if enough people get in on this trade, the market makers who can see your aggregate holdings will use it to skin the speculators, without regard to fundamentals in the short term.

    It's never easy.

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    Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

    This has been raised here yesterday.

    Anyway, I agree: long NG.

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    • #3
      Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

      A spread is starting to look interesting here: short oil, long NG.

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        Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

        Originally posted by Sharky View Post
        A spread is starting to look interesting here: short oil, long NG.

        Interesting, what's a good way of longing NG? i've been looking at canroys such as HTE and PWE for sometime, but the prices have almost doubled from March lows.

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          Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

          Originally posted by touchring View Post
          Interesting, what's a good way of longing NG? i've been looking at canroys such as HTE and PWE for sometime, but the prices have almost doubled from March lows.
          Futures are the easiest. NG July 09 is still under US$4.

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          • #6
            Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

            Originally posted by Sharky View Post
            Futures are the easiest. NG July 09 is still under US$4.

            I'll probably go for UNG if i want to play on Gas prices. I'm also looking for gas producers that give dividend for long term buy.

            How about this? NAE.UN

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              Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

              I bought PWE around $8 in March because it was just too low a price to pass up. Last week it occured to me that UNG was the same. Very low price historically with a huge long term potential. I figured worse case it simply goes flat for a while. Beats the 1% I'm making on it sitting in my money market. Up 5% so far, lets hope that continues. We aren't going to quit neededing natural gas or oil anytime soon. Simplistic and naive? Probably yes. But then so are most investors. All the rational analysis in the world can't figure these markets out.

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              • #8
                Re: Natural Gas/Crude spread

                Anyone into this? http://www.google.com/finance?q=TSE:PMT.UN

                Looks good to me. Only concerned about some articles regardless the bearish gas price market.

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