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    Dollar's wounds reopen
    By W Joseph Stroupe

    "Be careful what you wish for, you may receive it." The adage applies well to the US Federal Reserve as it enters what may turn out to be an entirely new and more dangerous phase of the financial and economic crisis that is still firmly centered in the US - notwithstanding the ongoing Wall Street rally and increased hopes that the worst is now over.

    The Fed wished away the hysterical risk aversion reflex of global investors, which came to a head in autumn 2008, when big Wall Street banks collapsed, sending shockwaves around the globe. The position of Fed officials is, after all, that this is a crisis sparked mostly by panic-stricken investors who've artificially driven the value of America's innovative financial assets far below their true values, wrongfully smearing massive sums of such assets with the label, "Toxic!".

    The Fed believed it could breathe new life into those assets and into America's asset bubble-based economy by getting credit flowing again and by replacing investor fear with investor confidence - which inevitably translates into a greater appetite for risk. A significant measure of risk appetite is now returning. But the problem is, the US dollar isn't getting the benefit. Instead, its wounds are only being reopened.

    As of June 2, the dollar had hit new lows for 2009 against nearly all major currencies, dropping a full 1% against the euro on that day alone, totally ignoring Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's statement during his visit to China that the US favors a strong dollar. On May 27, the yield curve on Treasuries steepened to a new record as the difference between the two-year and 10-year notes reached 2.75%, steepening to about 2.78% on June 2.

    Global investors, both private and official(central banks) are voicing ever more loudly their intensifying fears over exposure to the dollar for anything but the short term and their collapsing confidence in the currency as a safe store of wealth beyond the short term.

    Let's back away for a moment to look at this global crisis from a distance. When the US housing bubble began to burst in 2006, inherently risky, innovative financial assets backed by mortgage paper eventually began to be exposed for what they really were ("toxic" assets) and in late July 2007 the now-famous subprime crisis emerged.

    The contagion of toxicity spread to infect virtually all such innovative assets, wiping out huge sums of wealth and plunging US banks and other financial institutions into crisis and ruin. The damage and destruction quickly spread to the real economy, as a severe and persistent credit seizure virtually shut down lending at all levels.

    In the mounting storm, panicked, risk-averse global investors sold off emerging-market assets and investments deemed risky and massively piled into the dollar as a safe haven, lifting the currency. The Fed and other central banks began spending many trillions of dollars aimed at stabilizing the wobbling financial system and restoring confidence, which had utterly collapsed. The financial system was barely saved from a complete meltdown by such interventions, which continue to this very day.

    Ominously, global investors, though giving the dollar the nod as a safe haven in the storm, stampeded into the short end, virtually shunning the longer-dated dollar assets altogether. That fact was a dead giveaway that the dollar's well-known loss of strategic global appeal as a safe store of wealth had not been in any way resolved, but only papered-over for the moment.

    Reopened wounds
    Now, as risk aversion recedes and risk appetite returns, global investors realize they over-sold their non-dollar assets and investments in the emerging markets when the crisis intensified last year. The emerging markets are widely seen as those that will emerge from the crisis first, and assets in these markets are very attractively priced. Hence, investors are now selling their dollars to buy back into such assets deemed much safer stores of wealth than the dollar in the face of the inevitable return of dollar inflation beyond the short term.

    That is driving up yields on a host of dollar-denominated financial assets such as Treasuries and mortgage bonds and sending the dollar to new 2009 lows.

    Emerging market indexes and commodities are surging as investor wealth pours in once again. Profligate US spending and skyrocketing deficits, hyper-loose monetary policies in this crisis, and collapsing confidence that the Fed will actually be able to withdraw such policies and excess liquidity when required, are all causing dollar inflation expectations to become deeply rooted in investor psychology.

    The overpowering perception on the part of global investors that the Fed, Treasury and Administration are losing control of the US fiscal position, and that inflation (more likely hyper-inflation) is virtually becoming inevitable is threatening to wreak irreversible harm upon US finances and upon the dollar itself.

    Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, issued on June 2 a stern warning along these very lines, a warning that was remarkable for its stark honesty and its unprecedented violation of the cardinal rule of German politics that says German politicians never comment on monetary policy of the central bank. Her break with that rule indicates Berlin is extremely concerned about the dangerous and risky hyper-inflationary and currency-debasing monetary policies being undertaken in this crisis. Chancellor Merkel launched her attack on the US Federal Reserve, the Bank of England and on the European Central Bank. She said:
    What other central banks have been doing must stop now. I am very skeptical about the extent of the Fed's actions and the way the Bank of England has carved its own little line in Europe.

    Even the European Central Bank has somewhat bowed to international pressure with its purchase of covered bonds. We must return to independent and sensible monetary policies, otherwise we will be back to where we are now in 10 years' time.
    On June 3, Fed chairman Ben Bernanke himself issued a warning that long-term deficits threaten the very financial stability of the US. He further said:
    In recent weeks, yields on longer-term Treasury securities and fixed-rate mortgages have risen ... These increases appear to reflect concerns about large federal deficits ...
    He went on to somewhat minimize the role of investor concern regarding US spending, seeking to lay the record steepening of the bond yield curve off on other factors. It seems that Fed officials don't want to see the full and stark truth about how global investors are rapidly losing confidence in the US fiscal position and in the dollar.

    In a similar vein, Richard Fisher, president of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, issued a warning on May 23 against monetizing US debt through Fed purchases of Treasuries, agencies and other assets. He warned that this risky policy is making global investors increasingly nervous. He further warned that the Fed's challenge is to reassure the markets that the Fed isn't simply making itself "the handmaiden" to fiscal profligacy, almost as if the promise itself is enough. He said:
    I think the trick here is to assist the functioning of the private markets without signaling in any way, shape or form that the Federal Reserve will be party to monetizing fiscal largess, deficits or the stimulus program.
    But investors are drawing that very conclusion as they judge the Fed, not by its reassuring words, but rather by its ever more risky policies and actions. And with huge new sums of Treasuries flooding the market as the Treasury issues trillions of dollars in new debt this fiscal year alone, investors are demanding higher yields/lower note prices before they purchase the assets.

    In all likelihood, the Fed will be required to significantly step up its own purchases of the longer-dated Treasuries in an effort to keep escalating yields from getting out of control and completely negating its efforts to keep monetary policy hyper-loose. But such a dollar-debasing move (the printing of yet more huge sums of dollars) will only further convince investors that hyper-inflation is inevitable, and that realization will further weaken the appeal of the dollar today, sending it immediately lower.

    It certainly appears as if the Fed doesn't get it; officials definitely seem to think they can reassure global investors merely by repeating the assurances quoted above, but without actually changing course in any meaningful way. They absolutely aren't listening to the wisdom and warning of Angela Merkel and those like her.

    The question is whether central banks which already have large holdings of dollars, such as China's central bank, will dramatically increase their exposure to the risky dollar in an effort to stem its decline in order to keep their holdings from being eroded away.

    Considering the record level of angst over their already-large exposure to the dollar, it appears highly unlikely they will significantly increase their exposure now, when dollar risks are dramatically increasing. Note the June 2 comments of the official state media, China Daily, in this regard, in its article entitled, "Geithner Sells a Devalued Dollar": Another reason for the dollar's weakness is the grim prospect facing US public finance. Investors are worried about the US government's record budget deficit. The Barack Obama administration may have to issue a mammoth $3.25 trillion of T-bills to fill the financial black hole of such a massive deficit. This is bound to scare investors away from the dollar-denominated long-term treasury bills.

    When the interest rate is virtually zero and other traditional options have been exhausted, the Federal Reserve has no choice but to resort to "quantitative easing" and buying of T-bills. But it will swell the supply of base money, and thereby heighten the risk of devaluation of the dollar. Though the devaluation of dollar may be good news for US exports, it will erode investor confidence, and might even lead to the collapse of the dollar's hegemony.Savvy investors are doing precisely what Bill Gross, founder of the largest bond fund in the world, PIMCO (Pacific Investment Management Company), advised them to do on June 3. He warned that US finances are seriously deteriorating and that investors should rapidly diversify their dollar holdings before central banks inevitably do so. Gross has significantly reduced US government bond holdings of all flavors within his Total Return Fund, following his own advice to global investors.

    Beginning of the end for the bubble?
    The present trend of selling dollars to buy hard assets, though still a fledgling trend, carries significant risks of turning into a veritable stampede some distance down the present path. How so? How might this mounting trend out of the dollar into hard assets begin to significantly feed upon itself to become a stampede?

    Assuming that the ongoing emerging market rally is for real, as evidence strongly indicates it is, then every dollar sold to buy into that rally weakens the currency further. As investors carefully monitor the ever-declining value of the dollar, they will seek to hedge their losses by selling dollars for hard assets, which will only further increase the supply of dollars and further weaken the currency.

    Few investors will have the stomach for riding the dollar down too far if the dollar's decline accelerates too much, or even if it remains somewhat gradual but does not turn around soon. Thus, the cycle feeds upon itself, potentially becoming a stampede out of the dollar, risking a rupture of the Treasuries bubble and a catastrophe for US finances as yields and interest rates spike, out-of-control monetary tightening takes over and an even more massive credit seizure grips the US.

    Since so much wealth is at present parked in short-dated Treasuries, investors who refuse to roll over their holdings into new Treasuries but instead demand to refund their Treasuries so as to buy something else, could place the US Treasury in a profound bind if the current fledgling trend does turn into anything remotely resembling a stampede.

    That is especially so if global investors keep refusing to purchase the longer-dated Treasuries, thus denying the Treasury a critical source of dollars with which to issue refunds demanded by investors who aren't rolling over into new notes or bonds.

    The real question here, when considering a possible rupture of the Treasuries bubble, is whether the ongoing dollar-selloff/dollar weakness cycle will feed upon itself to a sufficient degree that the dollar's decline becomes accelerated and chaotic, or whether it will possibly remain more gradual and orderly. The answer to that question depends upon investor psychology and events that may affect that psychology.

    If a dollar panic gets underway, then we'll be looking at a stampede and a full-blown rupture of the Treasuries bubble, as well as a concomitant dollar crisis, renewed US financial collapse and a subsequent full-blown economic depression.

    Thus, the stakes are unimaginably high for the US as regards maintaining global confidence in dollar assets. In a perverse sort of way, the global crisis we've already endured, one that emanated from the US, has produced just what the dollar needed - extreme risk aversion and a massive flight into the dollar. But the currency is now beginning to lose the contest for global appeal as investors begin to give the nod to hard assets. Can the dollar stem its losses and hold onto what remains of investor appeal? Could it even recover its losses?

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    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_.../KF05Dj01.html

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    • #3
      Re: Stroupe on the $

      From an upcoming analysis:


      "The dollar will continue a down trend that started in the early 1970s, took a detour during the FIRE Economy era from the early 1980s until 2001, fell rapidly during the liquidity-based FIRE Economy rebound, bounced during FIRE Economy death throes between July 2008 and March 2009--a period popularly known as “de-leveraging”--and resumed its decline thereafter. iTulip dollar target 2015: 60. We tend to be overly optimistic; the dollar may fall farther and faster than this forecast."
      Ed.

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      • #4
        Re: Stroupe on the $

        Can we plot out a chart for emerging market bubble pop 2011/2012?

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        • #5
          Re: Stroupe on the $

          can't argue with this guy.
          I'm slowly moving out of t-bills and into commodities, on the dips.
          I am in a momentum play now with stocks, started buying in April. Did i buy SPY, no-sir-ee. bought EFA and FXI, figuring I would get equity mo with a declining dollar kicker.

          If as this gentelmen suggests treasury bond market collapses in a quick spiral, what will happen to commodities when the world's largest consumer goes into a depression? Yes our currency will suck, but so will the marginal demand for commodities. Sounds like a calculus problem to me namely dCRB / dUSD.

          Who wants to own short treasury debt with no return? In three months, inflation is going to start printing higher. Why because y-o-y energy prices will start trending up. That will start showing up in yoy PPI, and food prices. Housing is down in price, but medicine is up, trans going up, education going up. With a weakening dollar we will start seeing import prices rising again. There goes clothing. And I'm sure the BLS or whoever prints these inflation numbers are going to say there is no inflation. The'll use core vs. non-core, substitution, hedonics etc. to way underprint real main street inflation. Therefore the fed-funds rates and t-bil rates will not keep up with true inflation.

          Taxes going up too. Although that is not reflected in CPI. Certainly makes a dent in consumer spending.
          My prop taxes are up 500.00 y-o-y, state income tax is going up from 3% to 5%. Sales tax Up. State and local fees on everything are going up. I might see a $1500.00 increase in my tax burden next year with no income increase. (Assuming I dont get hit with a fed increase too)
          I'm not living on the margin, so I can take $1500.00 loss in disposable income, but there goes something out of my budget. Vacation? Big screen TV, cable. You pick what am I not going to buy next year?
          And I'm not a fat cat. My salary is only slightly above median in my county. How many marginal households are going to be forced into foreclosure because the $1500.00 is a mortgage payment?

          I'm an engineer with a stagnant salary. Since we (U.S.) dosen't make much anymore there is diminished demand for engineers. A 2nd or 3rd world engineer who is 80% as good as me. (Yes I am a really good engineer, there might be bright ones out there but with the "sheet" that comes into our company from overseas that I have to fix, they don't work for us.) will work for 1/3 the cost. It's only a matter of time before the axe falls.

          I feel like the GM assembly line worker getting over-paid for banging on hub caps for 75.00/HR. He and I know we are getting over-paid. The end is on the horizon, but I just need to keep hanging on and saving as much as possible for when the time comes to do something else for much less money.

          Trying my hand at trading to make up the income but I'm not going to replace my salary. I'm up 7% y-o-y, but I would need a hell of a big portfolio and nerves of steel to replace a 50% income loss.

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          • #6
            Re: Stroupe on the $

            Where is the chart that showed a prediction for oil over the next decade. Wasn't it all crashing up and down a couple of times before a final rise. Wasn't the explanation that a feedback loop would occur. Oil goes up and economy crashes, demand falls, on an on. So why won't the dollar do the same but at a near inverse of oil?

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            • #7
              Re: Stroupe on the $

              [I]found this fascinating & wanted to toss it in the mix...
              http://economicedge.blogspot.com/200...hite-with.html


              THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 2009

              THE HORROR, Bond Traders are White with Terror...
              This is an excellent piece written by Stewart Thomson of Graceland Updates (ht Ryan). My warning is that his site focuses heavily on precious metals, but what I like about this article is his focus on CAPITAL FLOWS (bond market versus stock market), and his neutrality in who will win the battle of evermore or what he calls the "thrilla in Manila!"

              As you read the following article, please keep in mind the fact that next week’s bond auction will auction a staggering $127 billion in debt ($6.6 TRILLION annualized!)! For a quick review of the bond market’s latest action, I recommend that you review my article, Interest Rate Update…

              While I believe that the deflationary forces are going to win in the medium term, the other forces may ultimately win the battle in the long term. You or I will not be “winners” regardless of who wins this battle! You may think you can place a directional bet and become a winner, but I am not so certain – again, a reason I like this article:
              THE HORROR, Bond traders are white with terror

              Gold Battle
              Thrilla in Manila!

              I want to talk about the bond market today as it relates to gold. And take you into the very real mind of a very real bond trader. Looking at a bond and gold chart is all very interesting if you like watching ivory tower movies. I do. But movies are not the whole picture. Experiencing the market thru the eyes of a real professional bond trader gives you a sensation of reality, in this case a most horrifying reality, that no chart can give you. I'm going to take you into the mind of a major bond trader who is a very good friend of mine.

              What's happening in bond land? The latest US govt bond auction was for $110 billion. Two years ago the average monthly bond auction total was $5 billion, $10 billion, numbers like that. The US govt finances its debt with bonds. A $2 trillion deficit means $2 trillion in new bonds needs to be issued. Approx. $200 billion a month.

              I want to take you inside the mind of a primary dealer. These are the approx. 20 dealers that have contracts with the US govt to market their bonds. The way the deal works in the govt's mind is: "You buy our bonds and sell them. You can short t-bonds going into the auction and bag a nice profit for yourself. But if you don't sell the bonds to your clients, guess who owns them? You do! If you don't like it, no more primary dealing for you, got it? And maybe we aren't so keen to hand over anymore bailout money or allow fraud accounting of your OTC derivatives. So play ball, or we take you out."

              I spent two hours yesterday meeting in person with a very good friend of mine who is retired as the largest govt bond trader in Canada for one of the primary dealers. He still manages $1.5 billion as a side gig. His minimum trade is $5 million. He looks like a pitbull and uses 4 letter words like Mr. Bernanke uses a greenback photocopier. He carefully detailed to me the horrors that began roaring thru the bond market, horrors that are growing, since the shocking $110 billion US govt bond auction was announced for this week.

              The bottom line is: There isn't enough money to soak up all the govt paper screaming down the pipe. The $300 billion in total that Mr. Bernanke committed to buy the bonds over multiple auctions, is a drop in the bucket. It's not enough.

              There is a daily competition for money in the world's bond markets. The US govt bond is the King Daddy of those markets. The primary dealers will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to sell those bonds. The primary dealers also carry tremendous power against the govt. Let's have a listen to their response to the Gman's "it's my way or the highway". Listen carefully. "How would you like it, Mr. Gman, if we announced that " sorry, we can't find buyers for your triple A rated toilet paper, we're going to announce to your public that you defaulted. Let's see how you do when we cut your credit cards up. You tell us what to do? Wrong. Go ahead, take away our primary dealerships. We're all standing together on this. We give the orders, not you. Got it?"

              What might those orders be? One order could be: "Your $300 billion commitment to buy T-bonds ain't gonna cut it. Try $3 trillion. Now get to your greenback photocopier start button and start pushing it. We'll tell you when to stop."

              While that action may be in the pipeline, as of today the ACTIONS taken in the bond market by the players are what is important. And those actions, believe it or not, are to buy bonds. Money is starting to come out of general equities, aka the stock market, and into bonds. Money is not coming out of bonds, it's going in. This is what the chartists don't understand. Money isn't just trickling in, it's pouring in. But it's not enough to meet the govt's skyrocketing demand for money!

              The losses in the bond market have pounded bank capital ratios. Balanced funds must now sell stocks and buy bonds to meet their mandated percentages. Losses on corporate bonds bought over the past year are staggering. Many hedge funds leveraged their purchases and are now in dire trouble.

              I have warned you all repeatedly about taking delivery of a portion of your stock certificates. Securing your gold. Holding 1 to 12 months expenses cash outside the banking system.

              The bond market auction was this week. Again, I want you to FEEL what the bond traders are feeling. They are white with terror. They aren't looking at some chart in internet candyland, they know there isn't enough money to buy all the govt bonds.

              Where we appear to be headed is for a test of the Dow lows. You had better pray those lows hold. Because if they don't, your money could become a target of the govt as its demand for money skyrockets, while the supply of money tanks. The ideal situation is a fast crash towards those lows with perhaps either the Dow transports or the industrials breaking, but not both. While that happens, the bond market must rally.

              The nightmare situation is the Dow just slowly rolls down, and bonds mount no major rally. If both the Dow transports and the industrials break the lows, the global banking and brokerage system will likely be closed soon after that, the first of many such closes. Short selling would likely be banned. A national sales tax would be simply one of a zillion money grabs.

              I do things in moderation. If the Dow industrials and transports break the lows, I would seriously consider moving 5% of your IRA and 401k money out and into physical gold on the next correction in gold. Looking back, you should have bought gold bullion in a pyramid formation instead of opening IRA and 401k accounts. It's too late to turn that clock back. It's a small number, but you may not need that much insurance than 5% given the magnitude of the dangers at hand. Nothing is fixed. Nothing is repaired.

              If Ben Bernanke fails to drastically increase the Fed's purchases of bonds, another vortex of asset destruction is a near certainty, as the primary dealers will exert mindblowing pressure on the managers of other assets to move those assets into bonds. Some of the movement is being triggered automatically thru asset allocation algorithms. Let me repeat: money IS not just moving into bonds now, it is POURING in. But... that money is not enough to soak up all the bonds the govt is issuing.

              Most money managers are only just this week starting to understand this reality. And what kind of horrific situation this is. If Mr. Bernanke steps forward and announces massive new bond purchases, that could disintegrate the USdollar and send gold to $1200 in weeks or even days. On the other hand, if he doesn't, the primary dealers have no choice but to order a massive liquidation of equity and commodity assets to feed the Gman's maniacal demand for money. Picture a black hole. Everything is being sucked into it. That is the US govt's demand for money. This week's announcement of the $110 billion auction is literally seen by the bond traders as announcing that a real black hole has opened up on a sandy beach. EVERYTHING is slowly being sucked in. Even the sand. And it is accelerating fast in a massive deflationary vortex. As the govt gets the money, it is BURNED. As the sand (and people) pour down the hole, even gold could get sucked in as everything is sold to feed the Gman. Here's the gold chart, the weekly. The chart looks phenomenal. Indicators almost all right in the middle "sweet spot." Perfect to activate the head and shoulders.

              Sadly, the massive increases in the commercial short positions of gold and other commodities over the past few weeks suggest it could be the deflationary vortex that emerges the victor of this clash of the titans. Will gold soar or melt? I wouldn't bet 10 cents on one scenario exclusively over the other. I want my subscribers to be 100% prepared for any and all scenarios. Remember the tools Mr. Bernanke has laid out. After the purchase of the t-bonds fails, (and it is badly failing right now) the next step is gold revaluation. If you think the United States govt is going to stand around like a wet noodle while their t-bonds are liquidated and watch all "their" money pour into gold without taking action to prevent that, please report to your new home on Fantasy Island. And don't expect there to be any gold there for you when you arrive. Own gold stocks bought into weakness and take delivery of a portion of your certificates. Own gold jewellery. Secure your gold before the govt secures it for you. Jim "Mr. Big" Sinclair, the world's largest trader of gold in the last bull market, feels gold could begin a skyrocket move to 1200, within 3 weeks! Jim "Mighty Man" Rogers feels gold could fall to 700! The bottom line right now is the bond market will decide the victor. The good news is Mighty Man will be a buyer at 700 if it happens. If he is correct, another massive wave of asset destruction is just around the corner, one that could require in excess of $50 trillion in money printing to cover the announced otc derivatives losses that will probably follow. The IMF may have no choice but to start a massive liquidation of its gold very quickly if the bond market doesn't reverse. They have no money and they may be enlisted to buy US govt debt. This is the clash of the titans and the public, who has just loaded up on stocks in time to be killed, is on the verge of being totally obliterated. Regardless of which way this plays out. Ironically, as money pours out of other assets to buy US govt bonds to feed US Gman Friar Tuck, it could have the effect of a giant short position on the USD being unwound, triggering a massive USD rally. The scenarios for huge price movements in all the major markets in all kinds of directions is arguably stronger right now than ever in financial history!

              This is the ultimate nail biter, the Financial Thrilla in Manila! Will it be Jim Sinclair's bull rocket, or Jim Rogers' sledgehammer? I'd like to leave you with an even bigger question for the weekend, and that is:

              Are You Prepared?

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              • #8
                Re: Stroupe on the $

                The envisioned scenario that is the dollar bonds are now competing with other bonds and assets as store of a diminishing produced wealth is correct.

                The Treasury market is now for the most part a CB thing.

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                • #9
                  Re: Stroupe on the $

                  I hate when people write things like:

                  I have warned you all repeatedly about taking delivery of a portion of your stock certificates. Securing your gold. Holding 1 to 12 months expenses cash outside the banking system.


                  What percentage of equity owners have the certificates?

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                  • #10
                    Re: Stroupe on the $

                    Originally posted by FRED View Post
                    The dollar will continue a down trend ...
                    Besides the ratio you comment on here, between the dollar and a basket of other major currencies, it would also be interesting to consider the various other ratios between the items (1) dollar, (2) treasuries, (3) other major currencies, (4) stocks, (5) non-fed mortgages, bonds & debt, and (6) a basket of commodities (oil, copper, soy, ...).

                    It seems that all the paper assets (1) - (5) are fighting each other to collapse. I guess the KaPOOM thesis says that (1) the dollar gets hurt the worst. The article quoted above "THE HORROR, Bond Traders are White with Terror..." by Stewart Thomson of Graceland Updates suggests that (2) treasuries will feel the squeeze, and in turn suck as much of the life blood as they can out of (4) and (5) in order to feed the black hole.

                    Any speculative excesses remaining in (6) commodities will get squeezed as well, but eventually such "real" and "essential" stuff will be the bedrock unless civilization collapses. Unlike paper assets, commodities cannot be created with a wave of the paw. Unfortunately, that also makes trading in commodities more difficult, especially for smaller investors who want to minimize risks with counter parties who are entangled in the FIRE collapse. Perhaps JPMorgan can take delivery of a tanker full of crude (JPMorgan hires crude tanker to store gasoil -trade), but that's a little beyond the means of some iTulip subscribers.

                    But back to my original point. It's not just the ratio of (1) dollar to (3) other currencies that we need to understand. This is a collapse of all manner of paper assets including even asset price bubbles in seemingly "real" stuff, such as real estate.

                    Surely the big trade of the decade is (1) - (5) down, (6) up, rather than gambling on the scrum between (1) - (5). Now ... how to play (6) up ... that's the $64,000 question.

                    How the dollar fares versus the euro (your TWEXM graph of the "dollar's value", to a first approximation ?) is part of that unpredictable scrum between (1) - (5) which we would be better off not gambling on.
                    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Stroupe on the $

                      I've been waiting for nearly a year now on when to short Treasuries; the expansion of the Fed treasury buying program followed in a few months by a recontinuation of the rising interest rate trend as Stroupe notes in his inflationary scenario is what I've been basing my actions on.

                      The deflationary scenario is also possible - but in my view is never going to happen as the weasel government officials involved simply don't have the guts to take it on the chin today (vs. kick the can down the road).

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                      • #12
                        Re: Stroupe on the $

                        Originally posted by cjppjc View Post
                        I hate when people write things like:

                        I have warned you all repeatedly about taking delivery of a portion of your stock certificates. Securing your gold. Holding 1 to 12 months expenses cash outside the banking system.


                        What percentage of equity owners have the certificates?
                        To make it, you must think outside the "system."

                        A fundamental principle: everything is negotiable.

                        You will never be able to beat them inside their system, as they are free to change the rules as it suits them. ;)

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                        • #13
                          Re: Stroupe on the $

                          Great article Doom&Gloom.

                          I'm in agreement with this guy - this has a surprisingly good chance to actually unfold: "Ironically, as money pours out of other assets to buy US govt bonds to feed US Gman Friar Tuck, it could have the effect of a giant short position on the USD being unwound, triggering a massive USD rally."

                          My suggestion - iTulipers should keep at least a post-it on their radar screens: "Massive USD rally" may be an understatement if it played out that way. This is how the USD can surge to 145 and even higher. It can chew up rational investors positioned for it's crash, and spit them out in pieces.

                          If we de facto arrive at a situation where the USD winds up wholesale into feeding ongoing US treasury purchases, that can wind up looking like a form of WWIII when viewed from a global perspective, except it's fought without the guns and bombs. Make that a war of the currencies. The thesis: USD can emerge on top if US dollars start to get sucked into the maw of the bond market.

                          Make sure you are sitting on the fence on this bet, and not overly committed on one side or the other. Which reiterates the point: With the world's senior currency going down, tethered to the largest economy in history, to suggest that it can only play out in one direction stretches ones credulity - or if not, it certainly should!!

                          For my money Jim Roger's nose is twitching in fine form on this one. The notion is, own gold, but be aware of the giant booby trap which may be nested in the USD.

                          Meanwhile, here in the iTulip forums discussions on the impending fate of the USD everyone is gazing in one direction - which (predictably) is that the DOLLAR MUST GO DOWN like the Titanic. The US Dollar can be complete garbage, but it still can stage a uniquely counter-intuitive move here, with enough of a detonation to severely disrupt all the rational hedges.

                          The USD and economic sphere are like a big spinning top, with a big mass and big gravity. As it slows before it's final crash, it gets a dangerous wobble. It can "tip over badly" in several different directions - not just one. And this notion is so flipped backwards to all historic precedent that it is hardly taken seriously by anyone and likely will continue not to be, unless and until we arrive at it after the fact.

                          This is what's "a little bit different" with the USD, compared to 98% of previous hyperinflating currencies. This one is coming off of 60 years as the sole global currency, so that is one *large* spinning top. Biggest spinning monetary top in history in fact. I'm still looking for 100 on the USD index up ahead, as a first stop. That's a viewpoint which seems to have cost me the trust of several long time acquaintances on these pages.

                          We shall see which thesis proves out. One or two of us are holding on to an ugly-odds bet here which it seems few others wish to approach even with a barge pole.
                          Last edited by Contemptuous; June 05, 2009, 11:23 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Stroupe on the $

                            I personally picked up 5000 shares of PST in anticipation of this move.
                            We shall see...

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                            • #15
                              Re: Stroupe on the $

                              "On the other hand, if he doesn't, the primary dealers have no choice but to order a massive liquidation of equity and commodity assets to feed the Gman's maniacal demand for money"

                              I don't get it. Where is the money coming from that is being sucked into this black hole? Who owns this money and why are they so ignorant as to sell other assets and lend it to Uncle Sam?

                              This part of the article sounds like another crazy gold bug conspiracy.

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