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  • 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

    Since this ties in with EJ's alt energy bubble thesis, I thought this would be an appropriate forum to post this. On the surface, this could be seriously disruptive technology.

    Theory is that they take advantage of ultra-high compression ratios running E85 fuel. No details yet (patent). They're actually in production as of yesterday...

    Link to their homepage test results...
    http://www.hp2g.com/testdata.html

    Article:
    http://tinyurl.com/qwxs4z

    Wauseon plant to open Monday for 110-mpg car engines

    Doug Pelmear says his engine more than quadruples the efficiency of the average car engine.
    ( SPECIAL TO THE BLADE )
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    By LARRY P. VELLEQUETTE
    BLADE BUSINESS WRITER

    WAUSEON - The man who drove his 20-year-old Mustang from Napoleon, Ohio, to Las Vegas and back last year on 39 gallons of fuel will open his first manufacturing facility Monday to allow others to get 110 miles per gallon.
    Doug Pelmear, owner of Horse Power Sales.net Inc. and Hp2G LLC, will hold an open house Monday morning in the idle 100,000-square-foot factory he has leased in Wauseon to begin manufacturing his revolutionary engine.
    The factory, on the Fulton Industries Inc. campus in Wauseon, will be tooled to initially turn out 20 of Mr. Pelmear's custom engines per day with one shift of 25 workers.
    A Decatur, Ind., specialty car company, Revenge Designs Inc., has contracted with Mr. Pelmear to purchase 2,000 engines for use in a new vehicle it plans to unveil at the end of this year at the Los Angeles International Auto Show. The vehicle is to be called the Revenge Verde Super Car, which will use Mr. Pelmear's 400-horsepower engine and its 500 foot-pounds of torque to travel up to 200 mph and get 110 mpg - though admittedly not at the same time.
    "The engine is going to be a really great partnership with the car," explained Emily Levault, a spokesman for Revenge Design. "The idea behind this was to give people what they want while putting people back in their jobs."
    Ms. Levault said the Verde will be introduced as both a left and right-hand drive, so that it can be marketed around the world. She said details of its pricing have not been released.
    Mr. Pelmear has said that he employs more precise tolerances and manufacturing techniques to decrease heat and energy loss and increase the efficiency of the internal combustion engine. He said he has more than quadrupled the industry average engine efficiency of about 8 percent.

    Mr. Pelmear's company employs eight people, and he said he'll "take resumes" on Monday, but won't accept applications, for what would be his first shift of production workers. Depending on how the plant start-up goes, Mr. Pelmear said, "we'll probably add another 25 over the next three months after that." Mr. Pelmear did not say what workers will be paid.
    Contact Larry P. Vellequette at:
    lvellequette@theblade.com
    or 419-724-6091.

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    Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

    file under... 'fuck general motors and tesla motors, too'

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      Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

      Originally posted by metalman View Post
      file under... 'fuck general motors and tesla motors, too'
      Metal, I'd file this one under complete BS. If it proves to be anything close to true, I owe you a bottle of Napa's finest. BTW, GM and Tesla don't need this PT Barnum to fuck them...they've pretty much done that to themselves.

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      • #4
        Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

        I need to correct myself. They're not in production yet. They opened the facility yesterday, but haven't started production yet.

        It could be a scam, but it looks legit at this point. We'll certainly know more over the next few months. It's worth following, IMO.

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        • #5
          Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

          Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
          Metal, I'd file this one under complete BS. If it proves to be anything close to true, I owe you a bottle of Napa's finest. BTW, GM and Tesla don't need this PT Barnum to fuck them...they've pretty much done that to themselves.
          you're likely right. a swarm of greedy valley vcs ran away. what's that tell ya?

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          • #6
            Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

            Originally posted by cakins View Post
            I need to correct myself. They're not in production yet. They opened the facility yesterday, but haven't started production yet.

            It could be a scam, but it looks legit at this point. We'll certainly know more over the next few months. It's worth following, IMO.
            IMHO, this is a scam. In our business there was a company in LA called DBK Solar that claimed to produce 3000 watts from a very standard looking solar panel. They had testimonials and several pages of 'scientific proof' but anyone in the business knew that a ~1 meter solar panel could not produce more than about 200 watts. They are now 'rebuilding' their site.

            This will turn out the same. Take a quick Google review of this company.

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            • #7
              Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

              the energy-content of ethanol is quite a bit lower than that of petrol. I'm therefore most surprised they make these clames for E85 fuel rather than pure petrol.

              Best guess? Dishonest P.R., as E85 appeals to the same eco-snobs as the unbelievably high MPG figure
              engineer with little (or even no) economic insight

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              • #8
                Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                With the very greatest of respects your comments show just how much out of line the US is when it comes to fuel consumption. Top Gear, a UK based TV program, more than a year ago now, ran two Citroen C1 cars around the M25 which circles London at a steady 50 mph and achieved ~98 mpg for a diesel and just over 100 mpg for the petrol car, (gasoline).

                The new Fords here in the UK regularly get something like 65 mpg on a long journey.

                Your problem is you want and expect to be able to drive a car weighing several tons that looks like a battle tank when all you need is a car small enough to carry four human beings....

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                  Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                  Check if Berezovski or some Russian financier" is not involved

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                    Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                    Americans one day (finally) will take a closer look at how the rest of the world has been approaching oil fired vehicle transport for decades already, and when they understand the belt tightening they are vastly overdue for on their energy budget, they will break into a cold clammy sweat as the "rest of world reality" seeps in.

                    Chris Coles lays it down on the line. Cold and comfortless. Wakey wakey.

                    Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                    With the very greatest of respects your comments show just how much out of line the US is when it comes to fuel consumption. Top Gear, a UK based TV program, more than a year ago now, ran two Citroen C1 cars around the M25 which circles London at a steady 50 mph and achieved ~98 mpg for a diesel and just over 100 mpg for the petrol car, (gasoline).

                    The new Fords here in the UK regularly get something like 65 mpg on a long journey.

                    Your problem is you want and expect to be able to drive a car weighing several tons that looks like a battle tank when all you need is a car small enough to carry four human beings....

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                      Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                      Originally posted by santafe2 View Post
                      Metal, I'd file this one under complete BS....
                      Same here. I'm an engineer, inventor, retired founder, and angel vc and this is "patent" nonsense. What irritates me is the sponser of their upcoming June demo is 2/3 funded by state taxpayers. It's one thing to separate fools from their money but the taxpayers don't have a choice.

                      This is my first post but I've followed itulip since 2000. I'm a little slower than EJ. Bought Gold in 2003, exited all public equities last Spring. Always looking for deals but few pass the sniff test. Way too many hockey sticks.

                      This new new thing of Pelmear's is, unfortunately, quite an old old story.

                      newnewthng

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                      • #12
                        Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                        Originally posted by FrankL View Post
                        the energy-content of ethanol is quite a bit lower than that of petrol. I'm therefore most surprised they make these clames for E85 fuel rather than pure petrol.

                        Best guess? Dishonest P.R., as E85 appeals to the same eco-snobs as the unbelievably high MPG figure
                        Oh yeah! Classic. Here's a snip from his facebook page:

                        Pelmear said he is considering selling public stock in Horse Power Sales to help raise capital, ....
                        Gee, who woulda guessed.

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                        • #13
                          Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                          Originally posted by Chris Coles View Post
                          Your problem is you want and expect to be able to drive a car weighing several tons that looks like a battle tank when all you need is a car small enough to carry four human beings....
                          No, my problem is that I intensely dislike other people trying to tell me what my problem is. Let me guess, do you work for government, or aspire to do so?

                          I don't "need" a car that's just small enough to carry four people. I need a car that can also do so safely. In a world with plenty of fast-moving cars and trucks on the road, in the event of an accident, mass wins. It's as simple as that.

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                          • #14
                            Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                            Originally posted by Sharky View Post
                            No, my problem is that I intensely dislike other people trying to tell me what my problem is. Let me guess, do you work for government, or aspire to do so?

                            I don't "need" a car that's just small enough to carry four people. I need a car that can also do so safely. In a world with plenty of fast-moving cars and trucks on the road, in the event of an accident, mass wins. It's as simple as that.
                            yeah! screw the rest! Drive a tank! or a hummer, rolls royce, etc. Guaranteed survival in most crashes, guaranteed deadly result for the other party involved.

                            However allergic I am to micro-management by governments, post like the above make me want to consider having a mass bandwidth for public transportation vehicles, and trucks/lorries on different roads or only during the night on the road.
                            engineer with little (or even no) economic insight

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                            • #15
                              Re: 400hp, 500ft/lbs...and 110+ MPG?!

                              Ive got a patent for a vehicle that uses only water /and any heat source that will heat it- it produces 1000n/m and 4000 hp at 1500 rpm - what you say,impossible u say - just ask the inventor - James Watt.
                              In Australia (Who by the way Today, has avoided a technical Recession - Suck on that USA, Britts, Europe,Japan, Singapore and all of the rest of the world) we say
                              "WANKER" or "Come in Spinner"

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