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  • #31
    Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

    http://www.freep.com/article/2008120.../81208033/1215

    If you can't get the most conservative, crazy, court in a hundred years to even hear the case, it says a lot about just how silly it was.

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    • #32
      Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

      Actually Justice Thomas taking up the case for conference after another Justice had already rejected it is not common at all.

      And while it's true that no ideology's filter is 'the one...'

      The Washington Post just insists on equivalence without regard for who is right and who is wrong. If the right wingers are upset for no reason it must be shown that the left wingers are upset without cause as well.

      Balance >>>>>>> Truth
      Last edited by WDCRob; December 08, 2008, 12:00 PM.

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      • #33
        Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

        Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
        Actually Justice Thomas taking up the case for conference after another Justice had already rejected it is not common at all.
        Is that so? I stand corrected. Still think the left/right is mostly phony as are most of the aspects of the campaign rhetoric....If anyone cares to discuss, I could go on and on for days, but here are two points:

        Obama's "STUNNING" move towards the center with regards to the rhetoric that was used during the campaign (eat the rich and the oil companies).

        Biden and Clinton telling us over and over that Obama was ill-prepared, that his foreign policy ideas are junk and than eagerly jumping at the chance for high level posts under him.

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        • #34
          Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

          Sounds like what you don't like is 'politics' Babbit

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          • #35
            Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

            Originally posted by WDCRob View Post
            Sounds like what you don't like is 'politics' Babbit
            You're right, the whole thing makes me sick.

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            • #36
              Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

              Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
              This is a demonstration of how the right wing thinks. Let's reinterpret the constitution so we can bastardize the democratic process and keep a hold on power. No wonder they torture people and hold them without trial.
              Would you quit this left wing right wing crap? If you don't pull your head out of the sand and realize that these two parties are two hands on the same body that really governs us then you'll never really grasp what's actually going on here.

              If you really think the left and right are that different look at the people tortured by the CIA during the blue administrations. Go to the DOD website and look at how many american soldiers died during the last 10 administrations. Clinton's numbers top Bush's by far and your buddy Jimmy Carter heads the list. WAKE UP! It's two management teams bidding for the CEO job of tyranny incorporated. The only thing protecting us from the bastards is us defending our rights. You people point your finger at the righties who think the constitution is somehow irrevlevant during terror threats, but the constitution is somehow racist when you win an election.

              Originally posted by we_are_toast View Post
              You people must have gone mad : the plane has two engines in flames, the pilot is doing bravely, but you discuss over the fine prints on his license. Have a nice crash everybody.
              The Obama crowd are the ones who've gone mad, you think this guy is going to fly the plane and save us from the evil republicans? You think this guy represents change? You tool around this forum so I have to assume you know something about economics, if you know even a little bit you should be fully aware that the promises that guy made to the American people during his campaign are F-ing impossible! Which means he's full of s#!+ like the rest of them. A bunch of Clinton cabinet sloppy seconds, and CFR/Trilateral Comission/Bilderberg cronies is not change. A young senator who upholds his oath of office and follows the constitution 20% of the time when he even bothers to vote at all is not change.

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              • #37
                Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

                Originally posted by babbittd View Post
                You're right, the whole thing makes me sick.
                Beats shooting each other in the street.

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                • #38
                  Re: Supreme Court to Conference on Obama's Prez Eligibility

                  This discussion is from Salon

                  Dec. 5, 2008 | Barack Obama can't be president: He wasn't really born in Hawaii, and the certification of live birth his campaign released is a forgery. He was born in Kenya. Or maybe Indonesia. Or, wait, maybe he was born in Hawaii -- but that doesn't matter, since he was also a British citizen at birth because of his father, and you can't be a "natural-born citizen" in that case. (But then, maybe his "father" wasn't really his father; maybe his real dad was an obscure communist poet. Or Malcolm X.)
                  You might think these rumors would have died off after Obama produced proof in June that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii to an American citizen, his mother, Ann, or after Hawaii state officials confirmed in October that he was born there. You might think the rumors would have died off after he was elected by a comfortable margin. Instead, they've intensified. There have been paid advertisements in the Chicago Tribune questioning the president-elect's birth certificate and eligibility, and one group is raising money to run a similar ad on television. The right-wing Web site WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the issue almost nonstop. Numerous plaintiffs have filed lawsuits in various states. And Friday, the Supreme Court's nine justices will decide whether they want to hear one of those suits, which also contends that John McCain, born in the former Panama Canal Zone, does not meet the Constitution's requirements to hold the presidency.
                  And, my favorite quote from the article is

                  But according to several experts in conspiracy theories, and in the psychology of people who believe in conspiracy theories, there's little chance those people who think Obama is barred from the presidency will ever be convinced otherwise. "There's no amount of evidence or data that will change somebody's mind," says Michael Shermer, who is the publisher of Skeptic magazine and a columnist for Scientific American, and who holds an undergraduate and a master's degree in psychology. "The more data you present a person, the more they doubt it ... Once you're committed, especially behaviorally committed or financially committed, the more impossible it becomes to change your mind."Any inconvenient facts are irrelevant. People who believe in a conspiracy theory "develop a selective perception, their mind refuses to accept contrary evidence," Chip Berlet, a senior analyst with Political Research Associates who studies such theories, says. "As soon as you criticize a conspiracy theory, you become part of the conspiracy."
                  There is more in the article, but it all has to be read to be appreciated. I hope maybe this can put the topic to rest.

                  Signed,

                  Part Of The Conspiracy

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